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Post by jeycov on Apr 30, 2015 7:27:18 GMT
We don't know what's going on behind the scenes re negotiating a new contract / interest shown from other clubs
Bego has stated that his priority is to concentrate on the run in until the end of the season. - easier said than done I would imagine.
He's a very good GK, and he will be looking at all of his options come the end of May.
The good news is that we have an excellent prospect at the club, ready to play 1st team football, even though he will need some time to adjust (how else will he get Premiership experience)
I believe that Bego will move on, only the management can decide what is best in our remaining games
Whoever plays they need our support, even if errors are made
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Post by intamevan on Apr 30, 2015 11:21:06 GMT
The same as Hart and 1 more than Szczzzesny, the point is....????? I think he's merely just pointing out the fact that all keepers make mistakes not just ours. Correct, Bego is an excellent 'keeper, we should be honoured to have him, he's a top professional you never hear him moaning, other 'keepers make mistakes
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Post by metalhead on Apr 30, 2015 13:14:22 GMT
I think he's merely just pointing out the fact that all keepers make mistakes not just ours. Correct, Bego is an excellent 'keeper, we should be honoured to have him, he's a top professional you never hear him moaning, other 'keepers make mistakes I hope that's not sarcastic...
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Post by intamevan on Apr 30, 2015 17:33:56 GMT
Correct, Bego is an excellent 'keeper, we should be honoured to have him, he's a top professional you never hear him moaning, other 'keepers make mistakes I hope that's not sarcastic... Not sarcastic comment at all, I genuinely believe he's a top player and bloke off the field, yes he's made a few mistakes this season, but he's not alone. I personally hope he signs a new contract and the club moves forward together with Asmir in goal.
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Post by stokiesteve on Apr 30, 2015 17:37:41 GMT
I'm shocked at the flak he's getting on here.
What happened to 'city loves you more than you will know'
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2015 17:39:50 GMT
I'm shocked at the flak he's getting on here. What happened to 'city loves you more than you will know' ? I'm not, we have a right core of fucking pipes on here! H
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 30, 2015 17:46:51 GMT
He deserves a bit of flak tbh. And a dropping.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 30, 2015 18:01:26 GMT
Yup actively wanting to sell him is fucking insanity.
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Post by senojbor on Apr 30, 2015 18:06:42 GMT
Soro has been our best keeper since promotion. Bego is a very good keeper overall though despite his drop in form. Can't save penalties like Soro could though!
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Post by AlliG on Apr 30, 2015 18:45:16 GMT
Soro has been our best keeper since promotion. Bego is a very good keeper overall though despite his drop in form. Can't save penalties like Soro could though! I think some of our fans could do with a trip to Specsavers! Tommy was a very good keeper but Bego has taken it to another level. (Not aimed at the above) but too many people on here have just the 2 default values. "He's brilliant","He's shit". There are also a number of agenda driven posters on this thread. Player doesn't come out and say that this is the greatest club on the planet and says that one day he would love to play for a "big club" and suddenly it is "he's shit, f*** him off". The reality is that Bego (like one or 2 others) has seen a bit of a dip in form this season, but all these things are relative and he has still been pretty good for most of the season.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 30, 2015 18:56:57 GMT
We have been blessed with some very good keepers at Stoke. Begovic is right up there near the top, even this season
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 30, 2015 20:22:36 GMT
Soro has been our best keeper since promotion. Bego is a very good keeper overall though despite his drop in form. Can't save penalties like Soro could though! So because Soro could save a penalty he's better than Bego as a goalkeeper?
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 30, 2015 21:11:36 GMT
Begovic is still a top keeper. You don't stop being a top keeper over night. He does need dropping though. You cannot become complacent in the Premier League.
Similar happen to Sorensen back in 2010/11 he rightly was our No.1 and was easily on the same level that Bego is now. Tommy made a couple of errors and was dropped. Bego came in performed well and became our No.1 however whenever he had a rough patch he was dropped. It wasn't until 2012/13 that Bego fully cemented himself as a No.1
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Post by thehoof on Apr 30, 2015 21:13:23 GMT
When Bego has gone, I hope that all these people who are all for the sale don't find the chorus of "Big Yellow Taxi" coming back to haunt them. Actually, I hope it does (assuming that doesn't mean we are in a relegation scrap).
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Post by Silkystoke on Apr 30, 2015 21:23:27 GMT
Bego will be a massive loss when he goes, I for one will miss him so much, I don't care if he's made a few fuck ups over the last month or so, he's saved us so often in the past.....
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Post by southcarolinastokie on May 1, 2015 11:32:30 GMT
According to Martin Tyler, Begovic has made the second highest number of mistakes leading to goals in the league Begovic second on list
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Post by jeycov on May 1, 2015 11:37:07 GMT
According to Martin Tyler, Begovic has made the second highest number of mistakes leading to goals in the league Begovic second on listAnd we are still in the top 10
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Post by thehoof on May 1, 2015 11:51:27 GMT
If you accept Martin Tyler's stats, then Bego was still clearly in the top list of goalkeepers up until Chelsea and Sunderland, as that will be 2 of his 4 mistakes that have cost Stoke a goal - actually no mention of the free kicks which the Peter Shilton's on here would have you believe were straight forward saves.
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Post by viewfrominside on May 1, 2015 11:58:32 GMT
I think his failure to say he wants to stay at Stoke aswell as him making silly mistakes recently is the reason for him getting a bit of stick. If he's lost concentration because of his possible summer move to wherever he needs to be dropped regardless of how good he has been
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 1, 2015 11:59:34 GMT
If you accept Martin Tyler's stats, then Bego was still clearly in the top list of goalkeepers up until Chelsea and Sunderland, as that will be 2 of his 4 mistakes that have cost Stoke a goal - actually no mention of the free kicks which the Peter Shilton's on here would have you believe were straight forward saves. The Cresswell one he could head out if he didn't do that daft step to the right. It's a flaw in his game.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 12:00:58 GMT
No player is beyond criticism and his performances this season have in the main been sub par.
Ignoring the obvious mistakes. His kicking is some of the worst I've seen from any keeper, on top of that where has his commanding presence been in the box? The defence hasn't been great but his lack of presence is worrying.
I keep seeing well he saved us more points than he's cost. Well that's his job, one he's paid handsomely to do, every keeper in the league saves his team more points than they lose.
Should we sell him, no. Although I did hear a rumour that we have accepted an offer for from Juventus, this was 3rd party info and not directly from anyone at Stoke.
If he does stay it will be interesting to see what happens to Butland, he much be itching to get game time now and so he should.
The last time he played like this was the last time transfer rumours about him were in circulation. He's easily distracted it seems.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 1, 2015 12:10:07 GMT
The 'that's his job' argument is such a mean-spirited one.
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Post by mrred on May 1, 2015 12:29:23 GMT
Started to piss me off how many times he'd put a goal kick out of play. It wasn't even windy. He's made his fair share of mistakes this season, he's also made some absolutely top notch saves to keep us in games. To sell him, one of our top assets would be ridiculous.
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Post by mrred on May 1, 2015 12:31:44 GMT
According to Martin Tyler, Begovic has made the second highest number of mistakes leading to goals in the league Begovic second on listNot much in it really is there, even to the point that it's a bit silly to point out.
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Post by southcarolinastokie on May 1, 2015 12:49:37 GMT
According to Martin Tyler, Begovic has made the second highest number of mistakes leading to goals in the league Begovic second on listNot much in it really is there, even to the point that it's a bit silly to point out. There isn't much when you look at the keepers who have made four, you see Howard, Hart, Krul and Begovic, all good keepers who have had pretty poor seasons by their standards, so it is easy to see why Bego has questions asked of him.
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Post by thehoof on May 1, 2015 16:19:15 GMT
If you accept Martin Tyler's stats, then Bego was still clearly in the top list of goalkeepers up until Chelsea and Sunderland, as that will be 2 of his 4 mistakes that have cost Stoke a goal - actually no mention of the free kicks which the Peter Shilton's on here would have you believe were straight forward saves. The Cresswell one he could head out if he didn't do that daft step to the right. It's a flaw in his game. The thing is Bayern (and I am not saying that you were one of the people who made this statement) when we conceded the Kranjckar free kick at QPR, lots of experts were stating that Bego stood to far to the right of his goal and had left all of the goal behind the wall (always assuming that Kranjckar got it over the wall) available. Again according to the experts he should have taken a step to cover behind the wall and he would then have saved that one to. In your opinion at WHU, taking a step behind the wall to prevent a similar thing happening is what then cost another goal. If people on here can't agree about the correct way to save / defend a direct free kick, and I don't think anyone on here has played at above Sunday League as a goalkeeper, then I'll just leave it to the professional and short of throwing it in (like Sunderland and Chelsea), I am prepared to give credit for a good free kick, After all if Courtois had stood on his line our "goal of the season" would not have got a mention.
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Post by robstokie on May 1, 2015 16:37:06 GMT
Begovic is still a top keeper. You don't stop being a top keeper over night. He does need dropping though. You cannot become complacent in the Premier League. Similar happen to Sorensen back in 2010/11 he rightly was our No.1 and was easily on the same level that Bego is now. Tommy made a couple of errors and was dropped. Bego came in performed well and became our No.1 however whenever he had a rough patch he was dropped. It wasn't until 2012/13 that Bego fully cemented himself as a No.1 As great as Begovic is (and has been) for us, Dropping wouldn't be such a bad idea, as even without his couple of errors recently, we don't know if he will still be here come next season. Plus, if Bego is going, it would be good for Jack to get a few games under his belt to (hopefully) build his confidence for next season.
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Post by malteser68 on May 1, 2015 17:14:12 GMT
I don't think any big clubs are going to be knocking on our doors for begovic
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 1, 2015 17:16:34 GMT
The Cresswell one he could head out if he didn't do that daft step to the right. It's a flaw in his game. The thing is Bayern (and I am not saying that you were one of the people who made this statement) when we conceded the Kranjckar free kick at QPR, lots of experts were stating that Bego stood to far to the right of his goal and had left all of the goal behind the wall (always assuming that Kranjckar got it over the wall) available. Again according to the experts he should have taken a step to cover behind the wall and he would then have saved that one to. In your opinion at WHU, taking a step behind the wall to prevent a similar thing happening is what then cost another goal. If people on here can't agree about the correct way to save / defend a direct free kick, and I don't think anyone on here has played at above Sunday League as a goalkeeper, then I'll just leave it to the professional and short of throwing it in (like Sunderland and Chelsea), I am prepared to give credit for a good free kick, After all if Courtois had stood on his line our "goal of the season" would not have got a mention. I thought he was a bit dodgy for the QPR free kick tbh. He just didn't look in the correct position from the off, he was too far to that side. And no it wasn't to prvent the same thing happening, his starting position for the West Ham one was perfect, he didn't need to move. I think he got tricked by the right footer who ran over the ball, went that way and then probably thought "fuuuuuck". The two are only similar in by that his positioning for them was shit. And it doesn't matter what level they've played, we've all watched enough and played enough to know when something obviously isn't right. Courtois should have known better with Adam on the ball.....he made a mistake.
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Post by beatlestokie on May 1, 2015 19:01:18 GMT
I think Mark Hughes's comments on Bego were spot on- form is temporary, class is permanant.
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