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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 19, 2015 17:17:18 GMT
That goal was all Glen Whelans fault?? Nah half the defence and a good chunk of the coaching staff can put their hands up too! I blamed Glen at first, but actually it's Wolly who loses his man! Glen discovers it late, but Wolly should never let him go like that! I blame Wolly for the goal, apart from that Wolly was one of our better players on the day!
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Apr 19, 2015 17:34:50 GMT
Everytime we have tried to replace him, he picks himself up and comes back better. That is no reason we shouldn't get better in so it will spur him on
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 18:33:45 GMT
It depends on what we do. If we man mark it is Wolly's fault. If we mark zonal it's Whelan's fault. If we do a bit of both it is both players at fault. The problem we have as fans is we have no knowledge of in depth instructions that players get, so it's all guesswork. Wolly was definitely marking Fonte and lost him. Shame as he was the best centre half on the pitch. Bossed Pelle all afternoon.
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Post by dieguito88 on Apr 19, 2015 19:35:10 GMT
That goal was all Glen Whelans fault?? Nah half the defence and a good chunk of the coaching staff can put their hands up too! You kidding? The front post man gets beat at the front post with an absolute half arsed attempt to clear the ball from his area and it's not his fault? Massively at fault and it was Mr Whelan. Whoever it is at that front post there (and Whelan has been front post man for half of the season) he has to win that header. The goal was clearly Walters fault, who not marked scheinederlin who scored EASILY the goal. Period. To lost a dual challenge in the penalty area could happen. To not mark your direct opponent is for me and for every manager in the world a big mistake.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 19, 2015 19:38:24 GMT
Pelle had a really good game I thought.
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Post by Gods on Apr 19, 2015 19:42:55 GMT
You kidding? The front post man gets beat at the front post with an absolute half arsed attempt to clear the ball from his area and it's not his fault? Massively at fault and it was Mr Whelan. Whoever it is at that front post there (and Whelan has been front post man for half of the season) he has to win that header. The goal was clearly Walters fault, who not marked scheinederlin who scored EASILY the goal. Period. To lost a dual challenge in the penalty area could happen. To not mark your direct opponent is for me and for every manager in the world a big mistake. It was going in anyway, Scheinederlin's contribution was an irrelevance.
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Post by dieguito88 on Apr 19, 2015 20:21:22 GMT
The goal was clearly Walters fault, who not marked scheinederlin who scored EASILY the goal. Period. To lost a dual challenge in the penalty area could happen. To not mark your direct opponent is for me and for every manager in the world a big mistake. It was going in anyway, Scheinederlin's contribution was an irrelevance. If someone marked schneiderlin, could clear the ball There with a strong kick on the ball. Btw I'm not sure Scheinederlin's contribution was irrelevance.
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Post by ayem on Apr 19, 2015 20:35:44 GMT
I think Whelan has been around long enough to know that bringing in fresh blood is not a disservice to what he has done. A team simply needs to progress, and progress how the manager wants. He had 'some' competition from other players earlier this year and became better for it. I imagine he'll do the same next year with his potential replacement.
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 19, 2015 20:40:45 GMT
Whelan has played some of his best football these last two seasons and I doubt he is finished yet.
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Post by Gods on Apr 19, 2015 20:42:37 GMT
It was going in anyway, Scheinederlin's contribution was an irrelevance. If someone marked schneiderlin, could clear the ball There with a strong kick on the ball. Btw I'm not sure Scheinederlin's contribution was irrelevance. yeah perhaps, the guy next to me pinned the entire blame on Cameron for putting in a poor cross a minute earlier at the other end which led to the Southampton break that led to the corner that led to the goal!!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 19, 2015 20:46:13 GMT
If someone marked schneiderlin, could clear the ball There with a strong kick on the ball. Btw I'm not sure Scheinederlin's contribution was irrelevance. yeah perhaps, the guy next to me pinned the entire blame on Cameron for putting in a poor cross a minute earlier at the other end which led to the Southampton break that led to the corner that led to the goal!! Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 20:48:25 GMT
yeah perhaps, the guy next to me pinned the entire blame on Cameron for putting in a poor cross a minute earlier at the other end which led to the Southampton break that led to the corner that led to the goal!! Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-) Next to you,it seems
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Post by jarvinski on Apr 19, 2015 20:49:03 GMT
Hey mr tatlock open your eyes. Whelan is fucking useless, scfc have made a millionaire out of this useless fucker, get rid
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Post by Gods on Apr 19, 2015 21:15:34 GMT
yeah perhaps, the guy next to me pinned the entire blame on Cameron for putting in a poor cross a minute earlier at the other end which led to the Southampton break that led to the corner that led to the goal!! Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-) Varies, I am a pay-as-you-go'er, yesterday I was un the Boothen Block 20, but not even you could match this fella's utter contempt for Cameron's efforts
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Post by dieguito88 on Apr 19, 2015 21:24:05 GMT
If u not mark your man, it will score. I cant understand why nobody says nothing to Walters who was watching the ball and let to run alone scheiderlin to score. Maybe as a forme defender i have a different view to u mates:)
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 19, 2015 21:24:29 GMT
Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-) Varies, I am a pay-as-you-go'er, yesterday I was un the Boothen Block 20, but not even you could match this fella's utter contempt for Cameron's efforts I'm pretty sure I'd give it a good go :-)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 20, 2015 0:39:38 GMT
yeah perhaps, the guy next to me pinned the entire blame on Cameron for putting in a poor cross a minute earlier at the other end which led to the Southampton break that led to the corner that led to the goal!! Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-) Yeah pretty much verbatim what I said to my lad immediately after they scored too. Indeed, a perfectly valid observation.
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Post by Binndy on Apr 20, 2015 1:40:13 GMT
In general we suffer from time to time for a player to take a game by the scruff of the neck. A few losses and a need to win ,to ideally not drop out of the top10. Causes dents in confidence . Then mistakes happen. Im sure Hughes had said we need to get the first goal. The winning of any game is not always about ability , but confidence and wanting to win. Thanks god we did win. I think whelan is end of season tired and a slight lack of confidence showed.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 20, 2015 5:38:49 GMT
We really need a quality CM buy this summer to push on. Everything Palacios was "supposed to be." Which is scary, but we should still have Whelan and a few other CM options like Adam, Sidwell, Cameron around for cover. I thought Hughes had his man with Cattermole but the last minute Sunderland freak out put a blight on things.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 20, 2015 6:39:23 GMT
Which is a perfectly valid observation given it was a complete abomination of a cross, if indeed it could be called a cross. Where do you sit? :-) Yeah pretty much verbatim what I said to my lad immediately after they scored too. Indeed, a perfectly valid observation.
That moment was Cameron in a nutshell on Saturday. The wrong decision followed by poor quality. He could of easily drove into the box to play a simple cutback, but no, he had to try a first time cross and miskicked it. The amount of times he got the ball, did that stupid thing of putting his foot on top of it then playing a poor quality pass were to numerous to mention. Tore my hair out at him and Whelan for most of the game for lack of quality ON THE BALL.
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Post by mondeoman on Apr 20, 2015 6:41:55 GMT
Hey mr tatlock open your eyes. Whelan is fucking useless, scfc have made a millionaire out of this useless fucker, get rid Best player on Stoke's books !!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 20, 2015 7:05:46 GMT
Whatever becomes of Glenn Whelan pound for pound and everything he's been a part of he is probably one of the best signings in the clubs history Take a bow son 100% agree with this. With Ryan and SJW a close second and third.
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Post by jarvinski on Apr 20, 2015 7:41:58 GMT
Jesus wept
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Apr 20, 2015 8:56:45 GMT
So much of his work that goes into protecting the back 4 gets overlooked just because a few passes go astray. How we can give him grief when he single handedly stopped us conceding a goal yesterday is beyond me. Might appreciate him when he has gone I suppose. Absolutely cock-on mate, my thoughts exactly, well said.
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Post by foster on Apr 20, 2015 9:12:20 GMT
One, Two, Ten, Twenty or however may match comparisons you want to make are irrelevant, Glenn is one of the weak links in the side and his position is in need of an upgrade.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 20, 2015 10:54:21 GMT
Whelan has never really been good!
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Post by Davef on Apr 20, 2015 11:32:31 GMT
Whelan has never really been good! Yeah, that's why he's been one of the mainstays of a team that's gone from a promotion-chasing Championship team to one that's established itself in the Premier League for the best part of a decade. Jesus wept.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 20, 2015 11:39:13 GMT
Whelan has never really been good! Yeah, that's why he's been one of the mainstays of a team that's gone from a promotion-chasing Championship team to one that's established itself in the Premier League for the best part of a decade. Jesus wept. Journeyman. Does a reasonable, ordinary job, but never really good as I said. Will never win player of the year or get the headlines! We could get much better!
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Post by werrington on Apr 20, 2015 11:42:23 GMT
Yeah, that's why he's been one of the mainstays of a team that's gone from a promotion-chasing Championship team to one that's established itself in the Premier League for the best part of a decade. Jesus wept. Journeyman. Does a reasonable, ordinary job, but never really good as I said. Will never win player of the year or get the headlines! We could get much better! Are you aware of what a journeyman is ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 11:44:34 GMT
Yeah, that's why he's been one of the mainstays of a team that's gone from a promotion-chasing Championship team to one that's established itself in the Premier League for the best part of a decade. Jesus wept. Journeyman. Does a reasonable, ordinary job, but never really good as I said. Will never win player of the year or get the headlines! We could get much better! 3 permanent clubs in a 14 year career.
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