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Post by lancer on Apr 18, 2015 18:06:46 GMT
Can't agree that it was a shit performance. First twenty minutes we bossed the game. They got a lucky goal thanks to slack defending from the corner and their first attacking move. We came out second half, got an early goal, stifled a good side for most of the second half, got the second goal,defended the lead and ground out a win against one of the better sides in the Prem. Not one of the best games we've seen, but shit...no way!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:07:35 GMT
Sorry I meant Diouf obviously. Like I say, you keep defending him and I'll accept he's pretty bang average at everything he does. I am the only one on this board that does... Isn't that a sad thing when the best tackler of today's game for Stoke never gets a mention on here... in a positive sense for being a decent fullback and arguably our best. Am I out of line? Pieters was loads better than him for me.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Apr 18, 2015 18:08:50 GMT
I am the only one on this board that does... Isn't that a sad thing when the best tackler of today's game for Stoke never gets a mention on here... in a positive sense for being a decent fullback and arguably our best. Am I out of line? Pieters was loads better than him for me. I don't think he looks right at the minute either mate.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:09:00 GMT
I am the only one on this board that does... Isn't that a sad thing when the best tackler of today's game for Stoke never gets a mention on here... in a positive sense for being a decent fullback and arguably our best. Am I out of line? Pieters was loads better than him for me. He should be, he's a dutch international fullback... duh. But he didn't have alot of tackles and let his man come at him a worrying thing but he had alot of clearances from longballs and they were attacking him more so.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:10:02 GMT
Pieters was loads better than him for me. I don't think he looks right at the minute either mate. Possibly not but he was the better of the two. We all know we are just ok at best in the two full backs positions though.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:10:40 GMT
Pieters was loads better than him for me. He should be, he's a dutch international fullback... duh. You've lost me completely.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:12:24 GMT
He should be, he's a dutch international fullback... duh. You've lost me completely. Lost like the majority on here who cannot fathom an American had the most defensive tackles today for us or lost that a fill in fullback is arguably our best on his day? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the oatcake's hypocrisy.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:13:46 GMT
You've lost me completely. Lost like the majority on here who cannot fathom an American had the most defensive tackles today for us or lost that a fill in fullback is arguably our best on his day? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the oatcake's hypocrisy. What the fuck has his nationality got to do with it? Why even bring that utter bollocks to the table?
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:17:44 GMT
Lost like the majority on here who cannot fathom an American had the most defensive tackles today for us or lost that a fill in fullback is arguably our best on his day? I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the oatcake's hypocrisy. What the fuck has his nationality got to do with it? Why even bring that utter bollocks to the table? I'll leave it at that, you are completely lost like a child walking into a movie. Hypocrisy is rife here, as is the glossing over facts and overt nationalism.
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Post by hartzchoco on Apr 18, 2015 18:19:23 GMT
Some just need to complain, no matter the result.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:22:04 GMT
What the fuck has his nationality got to do with it? Why even bring that utter bollocks to the table? I'll leave it at that, you are completely lost like a child walking into a movie. Hypocrisy is rife here, as is the glossing over facts and overt nationalism. I suggest if you even consider aiming that shit at me you retract it. I don't give a shit where a player comes from, all I'm bothered about is how they perform for Stoke. Overt nationalism? From who exactly? I'm not lost pal but I think you talk utter bollocks by even suggesting it. It has no place on a football forum from anyone and you suggesting it as some sort of defence is every bit as bad as someone (not that I've seen it) who actually was doing it.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Apr 18, 2015 18:23:14 GMT
You have lost it big time wd! Grab a beer, chill out and enjoy watching it back on MOTD. Really happy with the three points today!! By the way we were not shit, end of.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2015 18:26:08 GMT
What the fuck has his nationality got to do with it? Why even bring that utter bollocks to the table? I'll leave it at that, you are completely lost like a child walking into a movie. Hypocrisy is rife here, as is the glossing over facts and overt nationalism. You're making a fool of yourself here fella ... Overt nationalism? YOU'RE the one introducing it into the discussion.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 18, 2015 18:26:10 GMT
In theory we should've bosses the game and cantered over the finish line. However we were so sloppy today it was untrue. We misplaced far to many passes today it was embarrassing at times, we were slow reacting to the second ball as well.
In fairness Southampton never really threatened and only looked like winning due to our own incompetent defending from a awry piece, again. We made hard work of it for sure but I don't think you can really argue with us getting something from it, but we were the better of 2 bad performances today.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:28:47 GMT
I'll leave it at that, you are completely lost like a child walking into a movie. Hypocrisy is rife here, as is the glossing over facts and overt nationalism. I suggest if you even consider aiming that shit at me you retract it. I don't give a shit where a player comes from, all I'm bothered about is how they perform for Stoke. Overt nationalism? From who exactly? I'm not lost pal but I think you talk utter bollocks by even suggesting it. It has no place on a football forum from anyone and you suggesting it as some sort of defence is every bit as bad as someone (not that I've seen it) who actually was doing it. Are you fucking kidding me? Anyone can look this this board... look at the golden child's thread that was deleted today... Wilson's threads, Walter's threads... Has a Geoff, Brek, you name it if... Has tht thread been deleted today??? Answer me that? Because they're American the usual suspects come on here and spout unfactual shit all the time... lol You are really grasping at it...
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:29:41 GMT
I'll leave it at that, you are completely lost like a child walking into a movie. Hypocrisy is rife here, as is the glossing over facts and overt nationalism. You're making a fool of yourself here fella ... Overt nationalism? YOU'RE the one introducing it into the discussion. The fuck I am... I get asked daily... you an American or Ex-pat you fucking know the truth... Stoke-man-usa...
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:32:40 GMT
I suggest if you even consider aiming that shit at me you retract it. I don't give a shit where a player comes from, all I'm bothered about is how they perform for Stoke. Overt nationalism? From who exactly? I'm not lost pal but I think you talk utter bollocks by even suggesting it. It has no place on a football forum from anyone and you suggesting it as some sort of defence is every bit as bad as someone (not that I've seen it) who actually was doing it. Are you fucking kidding me? Anyone can look this this board... look at the golden child's thread that was deleted today... Wilson's threads, Walter's threads... Has a Geoff, Brek, you name it if... Has tht thread been deleted today??? Answer me that? Because they're American the usual suspects come on here and spout unfactual shit all the time... lol You are really grasping at it... I can't even be arsed to argue with you. You're fucking idiotic (and a bit neurotic as well it seems.)
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:34:10 GMT
Are you fucking kidding me? Anyone can look this this board... look at the golden child's thread that was deleted today... Wilson's threads, Walter's threads... Has a Geoff, Brek, you name it if... Has tht thread been deleted today??? Answer me that? Because they're American the usual suspects come on here and spout unfactual shit all the time... lol You are really grasping at it... I can't even be arsed to argue with you. You're fucking idiotic (and a bit neurotic as well it seems.) Am I? I'm not the one who deletes threads in a message board because the golden boy has an awful day...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2015 18:34:40 GMT
You're making a fool of yourself here fella ... Overt nationalism? YOU'RE the one introducing it into the discussion. The fuck I am... I get asked daily... you an American or Ex-pat you fucking know the truth... Stoke-man-usa... The ONLY person who has suggested that the nationality of an individual player is of any relevance to this discussion is you my friend.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:35:50 GMT
I can't even be arsed to argue with you. You're fucking idiotic (and a bit neurotic as well it seems.) Am I? I'm not the one who deletes threads in a message board because the golden boy has an awful day... I don't even know what thread you're on about but if your theory of overt nationalism on here makes you feel better then good luck to you.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:37:36 GMT
Am I? I'm not the one who deletes threads in a message board because the golden boy has an awful day... I don't even know what thread you're on about but if your theory of overt nationalism on here makes you feel better then good luck to you. It's not a theory chum... it's overt and just laughable at this point. Cameron before his first match was called a league one player at best who'd never play for stoke by many because of him being American and in MLS... How the Oatcake operates man.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:42:05 GMT
The fuck I am... I get asked daily... you an American or Ex-pat you fucking know the truth... Stoke-man-usa... The ONLY person who has suggested that the nationality of an individual player is of any relevance to this discussion is you my friend. Not true. Remember the Brek Shea threads, Cameron threads... all full of Anti-US blabber... one discussion thread isn't the whole.
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Post by sutt on Apr 18, 2015 18:43:24 GMT
Southampton are a very good side and have some top class players so to beat them was an excellent result. We didn't play great but a lot of that was down to them. In some ways they showed what we're missing. M ost obviously for me is someone to play alongside NZonzi who's faster, stronger, score and has better technique than Glen (not a critisicm of him but just that we need an upgrade) and Pace on at least one if not two of the wings which we could have with Moses and Odemwingie if fit. On a positive note I thought Arnie was excellent today as was Mame whos beginning to show the critics that he's more than capable of leading the line. What really does worry me is our truelly hopeless set pieces both attacking and defending. Much that I love Ryan how many times does he win the ball from one of our corners and head it wide or over. Still a great 3 points. A midfielder who is fast, strong and can score, shouldn't be too difficult to find one of them then
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 18, 2015 18:44:36 GMT
I don't even know what thread you're on about but if your theory of overt nationalism on here makes you feel better then good luck to you. It's not a theory chum... it's overt and just laughable at this point. Cameron before his first match was called a league one player at best who'd never play for stoke by many because of him being American and in MLS... How the Oatcake operates man. Do you not see the irony of your sweeping statements about the board as a whole?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Apr 18, 2015 18:44:49 GMT
We created more chances than they did, and both sides made some pretty big errors.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2015 18:47:16 GMT
The ONLY person who has suggested that the nationality of an individual player is of any relevance to this discussion is you my friend. Not true. Remember the Brek Shea threads, Cameron threads... all full of Anti-US blabber... one discussion thread isn't the whole. People weren't (and aren't) criticising players because those players are American. As I said, you're making a fool of yourself ...
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:48:55 GMT
It's not a theory chum... it's overt and just laughable at this point. Cameron before his first match was called a league one player at best who'd never play for stoke by many because of him being American and in MLS... How the Oatcake operates man. Do you not see the irony of your sweeping statements about the board as a whole? That it's full of hypocrisy? Is that so untrue? lol A few months ago half the posts on this thread said we should fuck of Arnie... Sorry but there is no whiteknight on this board.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 18, 2015 18:49:50 GMT
Not true. Remember the Brek Shea threads, Cameron threads... all full of Anti-US blabber... one discussion thread isn't the whole. People weren't (and aren't) criticising players because those players are American. As I said, you're making a fool of yourself ... Because you get it all the time... In this very thread I was asked if I was an Ex-pat... Go on... Paul.
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Post by march4 on Apr 18, 2015 18:50:09 GMT
I hope there isn't an anti-American bias on this board. I would be appalled if there was a bias against any nationality.
All Stoke fans should be equally welcome.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2015 18:52:56 GMT
I hope there isn't an anti-American bias on this board. I would be appalled if there was a bias against any nationality. All Stoke fans should be equally welcome. There (as you very well know) isn't March.
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