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Post by poethebald on Apr 4, 2015 7:06:41 GMT
Can tell the Kippers....your opinions stink Like your fingers Jimmy Lol....very good...but aren't you the fisherman? :-)
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 4, 2015 9:16:19 GMT
Like your fingers Jimmy Lol....very good...but aren't you the fisherman? :-) Indeed I am not the Carp I hunt is not of the fish variety, it's a long story
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 4, 2015 10:22:57 GMT
If immigration made 1 rich person poor do you think we would still have it? Right wing smoke and mirrors, not 1 of the right wing elite, including Farage, will ever control immigration it makes them and their mates to much money Yes....we would . So far it has cost us £ 120 BILLION in the last 20 years . ....official figures .! Are you referring to this report that the Telegraph used as the basis for this article, Immigration from outside Europe 'cost £120 billion'?If so you may find these comments from the authors of the report of interest; Official figures - eh? Smoke and mirrors. Distortion, lies and exageration...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 4, 2015 16:12:08 GMT
Enjoying the zero hour contracts , food banks ,queues at A and E ? Immigrants? You are from England and you live in Wales Yes, the NHS is fucked up over here, educational standards are down, and there is a lot of poverty, but who runs wales? The Labour party does, and they don't care about the youth wanting to make summat of themselves, they just care bout the spongers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 18:48:49 GMT
If you think about life, most people are dominated by greed and personal ego . From the ancestral castle and the Bentley to the three bedroomed council house in the neck end and the 5 year old BMW on the drive ....we all battle for 'nice things' to own . 'Nice coats' with designer labels sewn on them , nice shoes and nice everything . It is a Rat Race from cradle to grave for 99% of the population . Perhaps , just perhaps when the nice things become too expensive to buy due to mans impact on the planet , then those nice things will suddenly become less popular and ultimately frowned upon. Human life will be turned upside down in a very short space of time ...less than a decade . When this happens , and that might be sooner than everyone thinks , then there will be left on everyone's lips just one party ....one fragile tenuous grip on survival and humanity ....The Green Party www.greenparty.org.uk/we-stand-for/Is that the same Green Party that are destroying our country with ridiculous windmill farms that don't work? Or the one that advocates a Citizens Trust that would see most poor familly's hit even harder.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 7, 2015 12:38:05 GMT
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Post by Northy on Apr 7, 2015 13:33:44 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 8, 2015 11:27:13 GMT
It doesn't seem to make much difference. Stoke will be Labour for a while yet so the other parties don't really bother with the area, Labour don't really spend that much time here either and we just carry on the same. Maybe this election and the general apathy that seems to be on the rise will mix it up a bit but I can't see anything other than Labour keeping hold of their MP's.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 17:51:59 GMT
It doesn't seem to make much difference. Stoke will be Labour for a while yet so the other parties don't really bother with the area, Labour don't really spend that much time here either and we just carry on the same. Maybe this election and the general apathy that seems to be on the rise will mix it up a bit but I can't see anything other than Labour keeping hold of their MP's. True there are too many people in this area who vote labour regardless. They seem a little brainwashed by the idea that they are here to help us, they work for us. They should vote for what they believe in. What are they now anyway Labour/New Labour/New New Labour/New New New Labour. They have many faces but their results are always the same.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 8, 2015 18:05:00 GMT
It doesn't seem to make much difference. Stoke will be Labour for a while yet so the other parties don't really bother with the area, Labour don't really spend that much time here either and we just carry on the same. Maybe this election and the general apathy that seems to be on the rise will mix it up a bit but I can't see anything other than Labour keeping hold of their MP's. True there are too many people in this area who vote labour regardless. They seem a little brainwashed by the idea that they are here to help us, they work for us. They should vote for what they believe in. What are they now anyway Labour/New Labour/New New Labour/New New New Labour. They have many faces but their results are always the same. Even when the labour man is... Well, let's see
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 18:12:18 GMT
If you think about life, most people are dominated by greed and personal ego . From the ancestral castle and the Bentley to the three bedroomed council house in the neck end and the 5 year old BMW on the drive ....we all battle for 'nice things' to own . 'Nice coats' with designer labels sewn on them , nice shoes and nice everything . It is a Rat Race from cradle to grave for 99% of the population . Perhaps , just perhaps when the nice things become too expensive to buy due to mans impact on the planet , then those nice things will suddenly become less popular and ultimately frowned upon. Human life will be turned upside down in a very short space of time ...less than a decade . When this happens , and that might be sooner than everyone thinks , then there will be left on everyone's lips just one party ....one fragile tenuous grip on survival and humanity ....The Green Party www.greenparty.org.uk/we-stand-for/Is that the same Green Party that are destroying our country with ridiculous windmill farms that don't work? Or the one that advocates a Citizens Trust that would see most poor familly's hit even harder. Well those i saw in Cornwall were working and producing electricity. Who will you be voting for ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 19:59:18 GMT
I'll be voting UKIP and you have to define working to far more than just producing electricity as it does need to be "Not at a loss" and therein lies the problem with the Greens all very nice policies but devoid of any practicality.
We would all love to live on a self sufficient farm driving an electric car powered free by solar energy with the home heating powered by our own poo, however we are a long long way away from achieving it.
Green party officials however have a good head start on the rest as they are clearly full of shit (sorry couldn't resist) =)
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 8, 2015 19:59:41 GMT
Tory.
Purely on the basis that Labour has continued to neglect and has gotten far to comfortable in Stoke-on-Trent. The sooner they realise that they can't take Stoke-on-Trent granted the better. There's some genuinely bright and gifted people in Stoke-on-Trent however there's nothing to keep them in the city, its becoming a vicious circle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 20:16:35 GMT
I'll be voting UKIP and you have to define working to far more than just producing electricity as it does need to be "Not at a loss" and therein lies the problem with the Greens all very nice policies but devoid of any practicality. We would all love to live on a self sufficient farm driving an electric car powered free by solar energy with the home heating powered by our own poo, however we are a long long way away from achieving it. Green party officials however have a good head start on the rest as they are clearly full of shit (sorry couldn't resist) =) I'm sure that there are far more qualified engineers and accountants than either of us to justify their practicality . No one builds or invests in things that run at a loss. You are however correct on one point , and I quote " Green Party officials however have a good head start on the rest of us ...." And this can be shown by the numerous solar panel fields that I saw whilst down there . You see , today's vision is tomorrow's essentials . This is in direct contrast to the catastrophic effects of coming out of Europe and the decades of misery that would be caused as a result . This has been costed by world renowned economists and civil servants the world over , along with practically every Blue Chip Company CEO in the country . But , it is your perogative to vote how you wish . www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_20-2-2014-9-18-49
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 8, 2015 20:20:20 GMT
Didn't realise Tristan Hunt was from Chesterton..and here was me thinking he was a Toff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 21:30:01 GMT
But Mumf how many fields are there in the middle of Fegg Hayes or the middle of Blurton and don't you think if there was a wind farm built on them S-o-T shitty council would put a speed camera and a parking camera car by them in the hope that they occasionally stopped or went a bit fast.
Solar panels look shite and so do wind farms they are "A Bloody Eyesore" In the future when we have roof tiles that have built in solar panels and indiscernible from the normal ones and with hope self cleaning as the lack of coal power now means all roves are covered in moss along with a silent wind turbine that lives lying down in the loft ducted by the chimney (NB My invention) then Both these resources will remain largely minor contributors , as it is they are at 7% and subsidised.
PS A dog shit trough on the side of the pavement could be used to power a free tram service but it's all pie in the sky yet as we live in an area where the council can't even arrange to empty the bloody eco bins that also by the way look a bloody eyesore.
Good design is simple, practical and pleasing to the eye, a pig powered tram might be ecconomical but it looks and smells shit, besides people would eat the bloody pig and scrap the tram up Ginto's as we live in a poverty stricken town , not the rich countryside.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 21:45:27 GMT
Personally , I blame the mayor .
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 8, 2015 21:57:26 GMT
If somebody had of asked me this question 30-40 years ago I'd of said Labour. Coming from a working class family from Meir it was Labour that was meant to speak up for me and mine but sadly Labour sold the white working class of this country down the river many years ago www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.htmlThings are different now . The world and our country is a different place than it was in the 50's 60's and 70's . Immigration for one is out of control and it's only ukip that offer a sensible approach. I wish I could say Labour but I can't. They don't speak for me and other working class people any more. They are lying, manipulative sewer rats with no morals and no common sense . They are hypocrites of the highest order so unfortunately for Labour they can get fucked if they think they'll be getting a single vote from my household. I won't be voting Tory neither. UKIP will be getting my vote . They might not be perfect but they are the best of a bad bunch and are the only ones that come reasonably close to representing me
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 22:54:22 GMT
They maybe the only party that offers a more restrictive approach , but their policy of leaving Europe is one of apocalyptic consequences . T Which is more important to you ?
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Post by countofmontecristo on Apr 8, 2015 23:19:08 GMT
They maybe the only party that offers a more restrictive approach , but their policy of leaving Europe is one of apocalyptic consequences . T Which is more important to you ? Apocalyptic my arse - see Norway.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 8, 2015 23:41:17 GMT
If somebody had of asked me this question 30-40 years ago I'd of said Labour. Coming from a working class family from Meir it was Labour that was meant to speak up for me and mine but sadly Labour sold the white working class of this country down the river many years ago www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.htmlThings are different now . The world and our country is a different place than it was in the 50's 60's and 70's . Immigration for one is out of control and it's only ukip that offer a sensible approach. I wish I could say Labour but I can't. They don't speak for me and other working class people any more. They are lying, manipulative sewer rats with no morals and no common sense . They are hypocrites of the highest order so unfortunately for Labour they can get fucked if they think they'll be getting a single vote from my household. I won't be voting Tory neither. UKIP will be getting my vote . They might not be perfect but they are the best of a bad bunch and are the only ones that come reasonably close to representing me Take a bow Harry, absolutely spot on.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 8, 2015 23:44:48 GMT
They maybe the only party that offers a more restrictive approach , but their policy of leaving Europe is one of apocalyptic consequences . T Which is more important to you ? The problem is Mumf, I remember the lying politicians telling us something similar when they wanted to join the Euro, and that has turned out to be 100% wrong. I also now suffer from a condition called Blairpolarism, it basically means I take the opposite view from our former PM.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:17:26 GMT
Yes....we would . So far it has cost us £ 120 BILLION in the last 20 years . ....official figures .! Are you referring to this report that the Telegraph used as the basis for this article, Immigration from outside Europe 'cost £120 billion'?If so you may find these comments from the authors of the report of interest; Official figures - eh? Smoke and mirrors. Distortion, lies and exageration... Ah yes ...The huff and puff post .....Very authoritative that publication isn't it . You might prefer to see the country turned into some suburb of Pakistan , but trust me there are millions out there who don't. I'm one of those who don't . Have you seen the state of Tunstall and Burslem ? An absolute shit hole . I took some Australian relatives down last year to see their ancestral roots and two broke down in tears ...they could believe their own eyes.....and that was before they read the Evening Sentinel .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:19:50 GMT
They maybe the only party that offers a more restrictive approach , but their policy of leaving Europe is one of apocalyptic consequences . T Which is more important to you ? The problem is Mumf, I remember the lying politicians telling us something similar when they wanted to join the Euro, and that has turned out to be 100% wrong. I also now suffer from a condition called Blairpolarism, it basically means I take the opposite view from our former PM. I quite agree ...the politicians are liars , but leaving the Euro is not an option I'm afraid . We're in this upto our necks and there is no escape ....well,certainly with our trousers on.!
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Post by choc on Apr 9, 2015 12:45:07 GMT
Tory. Purely on the basis that Labour has continued to neglect and has gotten far to comfortable in Stoke-on-Trent. The sooner they realise that they can't take Stoke-on-Trent granted the better. There's some genuinely bright and gifted people in Stoke-on-Trent however there's nothing to keep them in the city, its becoming a vicious circle. Very true. Hopefully their majorities for all 3 seats will be slashed considerably. They'll probably be all retained but the south seat could be of interest with UKIP taking Labour votes. I'll be voting Tory. I also hope the local labour council gets a wake up call too on how unpopular they are contrary to what they believe.
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Post by carl44 on Apr 9, 2015 14:39:10 GMT
Voting UKIP ensures our Kids have guaranteed Housing, Better NHS provisions, better paid jobs and a more affluent way of life.
Voting Labour ensures we stay in the EU which dictates our whole way of life and Laws...
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Post by carl44 on Apr 9, 2015 14:43:39 GMT
Didn't realise Tristan Hunt was from Chesterton..and here was me thinking he was a Toff. He is a Toff- and spends all or most of his time in London...how is that representing Stoke On Trent? UKIP have two local lads in Geoff Locke for Stoke North and Matt Harrold in Stoke Central...whilst Tariq Mahmood lives in Newcastle under Lyme so all are fairly local for all three Stoke on Trent seats. The Labour council need binning as well..UKIP all the way please.
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Post by britsabroad on Apr 9, 2015 15:02:45 GMT
If somebody had of asked me this question 30-40 years ago I'd of said Labour. Coming from a working class family from Meir it was Labour that was meant to speak up for me and mine but sadly Labour sold the white working class of this country down the river many years ago Now why would you think that automatically? Not picking on you here, but the assumption that one or another party represents a particular group is why we're in the mess we are in. Go out and read the policies THEN make a decision, which it seems you have done. There are too many idiots in Stoke who blindly vote Labour because they still think Thatcher is the reason their father/uncle/brother couldn't be arsed to get a job for 20 years after the coal mines closed. Until that mentality changes it will remain the gutter of England.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 9, 2015 15:17:06 GMT
If somebody had of asked me this question 30-40 years ago I'd of said Labour. Coming from a working class family from Meir it was Labour that was meant to speak up for me and mine but sadly Labour sold the white working class of this country down the river many years ago Now why would you think that automatically? Not picking on you here, but the assumption that one or another party represents a particular group is why we're in the mess we are in. Go out and read the policies THEN make a decision, which it seems you have done. There are too many idiots in Stoke who blindly vote Labour because they still think Thatcher is the reason their father/uncle/brother couldn't be arsed to get a job for 20 years after the coal mines closed. Until that mentality changes it will remain the gutter of England. Picking on me ???? lol UKIP for me mate thanks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 16:04:27 GMT
If somebody had of asked me this question 30-40 years ago I'd of said Labour. Coming from a working class family from Meir it was Labour that was meant to speak up for me and mine but sadly Labour sold the white working class of this country down the river many years ago Now why would you think that automatically? Not picking on you here, but the assumption that one or another party represents a particular group is why we're in the mess we are in. Go out and read the policies THEN make a decision, which it seems you have done. There are too many idiots in Stoke who blindly vote Labour because they still think Thatcher is the reason their father/uncle/brother couldn't be arsed to get a job for 20 years after the coal mines closed. Until that mentality changes it will remain the gutter of England. In theory that wouldn't be too bad but, voting for a party on what policies they are offering is a big gamble, because they don't stick to their policies do they? ....our very own PM Dave "cast iron guarantee, vote me out if I don't deliver" Cameron is a classic case. i voted for his policies that emerged to be bullshit (I kind of half knew it at the time but, gave him the benefit of the doubt)......now I'm doing what he told me to do....vote him out. labour and the liberals are just as bad....if not worse. i very much agree with your last paragraph
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