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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2015 1:20:22 GMT
And a very large proportion are Tory donors and given honours under Camoron. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2015 1:20:48 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 3, 2015 7:50:49 GMT
Apparently half the labour MPs employ zero hour contract workers. Looks like they are happy with Osborne. If people like you spent as much time and effort focusing on supporting change rather than attacking the present maybe somthing would get done. You are like a vale fan that would rather are stoke lose than vale win. However in this case it's lose lose for you, as we will have a labour or Tory government. |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 3, 2015 8:00:19 GMT
Apparently half the labour MPs employ zero hour contract workers. Looks like they are happy with Osborne. If people like you spent as much time and effort focusing on supporting change rather than attacking the present maybe somthing would get done. You are like a vale fan that would rather are stoke lose than vale win. However in this case it's lose lose for you, as we will have a labour or Tory government. Love to know how labour would reduce unemployment during the next parliament? Socialist policies have NEVER reduced unemployment unless you count the criminal overmanning in wilsons nationalised utopia, jobs courtesy of the IMF |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 3, 2015 8:10:07 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 3, 2015 8:56:16 GMT
Was always going to happen. You can't base every policy by starting "by not being in the EU....." As for clegg it's a damn shame as he has some good points. Surely it's better to be in the same tent pissing out than not being able to make a difference. The line have done well in the coalition but have had to concede some points to get their ideas through. If lib Supporters can't see that well it's their loss. I would be more than happy for another lib con coalition. |
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Post by salopstick on Apr 3, 2015 8:59:28 GMT
What is interesting is that the Scotland has a better deal than the other divorced countries and sturgeon has not done a lot to join forces with the other nationalist parties. Maybe she thinks any Welsh and n Irish gains will be St the expense of Scotland. It would be very dangerous to be conceding everything for Scotland just to get miliband in No 10
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 3, 2015 9:08:06 GMT
Was always going to happen. You can't base every policy by starting "by not being in the EU....." As for clegg it's a damn shame as he has some good points. Surely it's better to be in the same tent pissing out than not being able to make a difference. The line have done well in the coalition but have had to concede some points to get their ideas through. If lib Supporters can't see that well it's their loss. I would be more than happy for another lib con coalition. The two big parties have for the first time since 1997 created some clear blue water between themselves. Business freedoms versus workers rights, commitment to Europe versus severe doubts about Europe, progressive taxation versus cuts and efficiency. There does seem to be a genuine choice appearing and The Lib Dems have lost their place in the middle by associating with austerity Tories and Labour's slight move to the left. Nige is a one trick pony and the electoral system will give him three or four seats at best. The analysis last night after the debate was that is signalled the end of the two party system. I disagree, if the big two carry on offering a genuine different choice, I still think one of them could creep up to the 40% that gives them the chance of an overall majority. |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 3, 2015 9:44:11 GMT
Was always going to happen. You can't base every policy by starting "by not being in the EU....." As for clegg it's a damn shame as he has some good points. Surely it's better to be in the same tent pissing out than not being able to make a difference. The line have done well in the coalition but have had to concede some points to get their ideas through. If lib Supporters can't see that well it's their loss. I would be more than happy for another lib con coalition. The two big parties have for the first time since 1997 created some clear blue water between themselves. Business freedoms versus workers rights, commitment to Europe versus severe doubts about Europe, progressive taxation versus cuts and efficiency. There does seem to be a genuine choice appearing and The Lib Dems have lost their place in the middle by associating with austerity Tories and Labour's slight move to the left. Nige is a one trick pony and the electoral system will give him three or four seats at best. The analysis last night after the debate was that is signalled the end of the two party system. I disagree, if the big two carry on offering a genuine different choice, I still think one of them could creep up to the 40% that gives them the chance of an overall majority. Regardless of left or right policies this election will be fought on economic policy , balls is a liability and should have been replaced , labour have no credibility while he is the shadow chancellor, even labour supporters don't think he's up to the job |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 3, 2015 9:51:18 GMT
The two big parties have for the first time since 1997 created some clear blue water between themselves. Business freedoms versus workers rights, commitment to Europe versus severe doubts about Europe, progressive taxation versus cuts and efficiency. There does seem to be a genuine choice appearing and The Lib Dems have lost their place in the middle by associating with austerity Tories and Labour's slight move to the left. Nige is a one trick pony and the electoral system will give him three or four seats at best. The analysis last night after the debate was that is signalled the end of the two party system. I disagree, if the big two carry on offering a genuine different choice, I still think one of them could creep up to the 40% that gives them the chance of an overall majority. Regardless of left or right policies this election will be fought on economic policy , balls is a liability and should have been replaced , labour have no credibility while he is the shadow chancellor, even labour supporters don't think he's up to the job I don't know if he's toxic or not for undecided's but what is increasingly clear is that they myth about us being 'all in it together' has been blown out of the water. Millions of people don't have real jobs, real security, real wages whilst bills have gone through the roof. People feel worse off than 2010 that why all this positive macro economic data coming out doesn't really have a great deal of traction with electorate. It means nothing to them, they don't feel it will affect their lives in any way. I think Labour have run a very good but highly risky campaign by making it about workers versus business. It becomes left v right ideology and may end up with one of them getting a slight majority or a very workable minority amount of seats. |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 3, 2015 10:07:28 GMT
Regardless of left or right policies this election will be fought on economic policy , balls is a liability and should have been replaced , labour have no credibility while he is the shadow chancellor, even labour supporters don't think he's up to the job I don't know if he's toxic or not for undecided's but what is increasingly clear is that they myth about us being 'all in it together' has been blown out of the water. Millions of people don't have real jobs, real security, real wages whilst bills have gone through the roof. People feel worse off than 2010 that why all this positive macro economic data coming out doesn't really have a great deal of traction with electorate. It means nothing to them, they don't feel it will affect their lives in any way. I think Labour have run a very good but highly risky campaign by making it about workers versus business. It becomes left v right ideology and may end up with one of them getting a slight majority or a very workable minority amount of seats. Totally agree with you , I've just sold my small business after 21 years . The Tories did small business no favours at all during the past five years no growth & increased taxes of one sort or another . The recovery is just a property led boom in the southeast based on low interest rates , foreign buyers in London and relaxation of credit controls , if interest rates increase it will go south pretty quickly . |
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Post by kinetic on Apr 3, 2015 10:08:44 GMT
The poll taken before the debate. Loved it when the black guy in audience piped up " I shouldn't like Nigel but he's the only one who is talking any sense"  |
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