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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:11:10 GMT
Dave just been to see Her Maj to dissolve parliament, and now the election campaign is officially on. Without turning this into a debate, who do you THINK will win and why, not who do you WANT to win. I think Dave will get another term without a coalition for the following reasons. The thought of a Labour/Scottish coalition will play on peoples minds. UKIP will pick up voters mainly in key Labour marginal seats, and will dilute the labour swaying voters, and hand seats to The Tories. Dave's ace up his sleeve is the economy. Milliband is just a knob.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 11:14:04 GMT
Hung parliament this time , they will go again in October
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 11:55:11 GMT
So the coalition is no more
huddys prediction finally came true
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:57:01 GMT
Hung parliament this time , they will go again in October If that is the case do you think Labour will dump Millband, and if so are there any dark horses waiting to pounce. I must admit my knowledge of MP's is tiny now, since I left some 6 yrs ago.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 30, 2015 12:00:00 GMT
I was in the hung parliament camp until the Krankies started chatting bubbles. IMO the pair of them will win an outright victory for Cameron for the reasons stated by Shangsy. If it is a hung parliament the new administration could only leave on a vote of no confidence because, under new parliamentary rules, snap elections are no longer allowed. An elected government has to serve five years.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 12:12:22 GMT
Hung parliament this time , they will go again in October If that is the case do you think Labour will dump Millband, and if so are there any dark horses waiting to pounce. I must admit my knowledge of MP's is tiny now, since I left some 6 yrs ago. The key is the economy, an interesting survey recently said that even a majority of labour supporters don't think they can run the countries finances, milibland has a massive credibility problem and I don't see how he could survive if they can't win a majority. Not sure if there is a stand out candidate to replace him though
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Post by KevinWhimper on Mar 30, 2015 12:14:35 GMT
If that is the case do you think Labour will dump Millband, and if so are there any dark horses waiting to pounce. I must admit my knowledge of MP's is tiny now, since I left some 6 yrs ago. The key is the economy, an interesting survey recently said that even a majority of labour supporters don't think they can run the countries finances, milibland has a massive credibility problem and I don't see how he could survive if they can't win a majority. Not sure if there is a stand out candidate to replace him though His brother?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 12:15:58 GMT
The key is the economy, an interesting survey recently said that even a majority of labour supporters don't think they can run the countries finances, milibland has a massive credibility problem and I don't see how he could survive if they can't win a majority. Not sure if there is a stand out candidate to replace him though His brother? Maybe, but he is coining it in on Wall Street isn't he.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 12:31:54 GMT
If that is the case do you think Labour will dump Millband, and if so are there any dark horses waiting to pounce. I must admit my knowledge of MP's is tiny now, since I left some 6 yrs ago. The key is the economy, an interesting survey recently said that even a majority of labour supporters don't think they can run the countries finances, milibland has a massive credibility problem and I don't see how he could survive if they can't win a majority. Not sure if there is a stand out candidate to replace him though Ed balls and Harriet harmon are about as electable as PM As Hague. Labour could struggle to get back in if they fuck this up. The key issues are can you trust labour with the economy and can you trust the Tories with Europe Whoever gets in the austerity continues for 5 years. God help us if miliband gets in with a SNP coalition Imo the coalition has been a success. Libs may have sold out but they managed to get some policies through that otherwise wouldn't have. I personally believe labour will get a small majority if ed can campaign right however voters are turned off by his style over substance
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 30, 2015 13:08:24 GMT
The key is the economy, an interesting survey recently said that even a majority of labour supporters don't think they can run the countries finances, milibland has a massive credibility problem and I don't see how he could survive if they can't win a majority. Not sure if there is a stand out candidate to replace him though Ed balls and Harriet harmon are about as electable as PM As Hague. Labour could struggle to get back in if they fuck this up. The key issues are can you trust labour with the economy and can you trust the Tories with Europe Whoever gets in the austerity continues for 5 years. God help us if miliband gets in with a SNP coalition Imo the coalition has been a success. Libs may have sold out but they managed to get some policies through that otherwise wouldn't have. I personally believe labour will get a small majority if ed can campaign right however voters are turned off by his style over substance I agree with you on the success of the coalition. The Lib Dems have been a moderating influence on the Tories. Miliband and SNP is a nightmare scenario for me, too!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 13:17:54 GMT
Ed balls and Harriet harmon are about as electable as PM As Hague. Labour could struggle to get back in if they fuck this up. The key issues are can you trust labour with the economy and can you trust the Tories with Europe Whoever gets in the austerity continues for 5 years. God help us if miliband gets in with a SNP coalition Imo the coalition has been a success. Libs may have sold out but they managed to get some policies through that otherwise wouldn't have. I personally believe labour will get a small majority if ed can campaign right however voters are turned off by his style over substance I agree with you on the success of the coalition. The Lib Dems have been a moderating influence on the Tories. Miliband and SNP is a nightmare scenario for me, too! Do you think Lib Dem Voters will forgive the party to selling out, or do you think they will either stay away or switch votes, Lib Dem have always had a very weak support.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 30, 2015 13:22:01 GMT
I agree with you on the success of the coalition. The Lib Dems have been a moderating influence on the Tories. Miliband and SNP is a nightmare scenario for me, too! Do you think Lib Dem Voters will forgive the party to selling out, or do you think they will either stay away or switch votes, Lib Dem have always had a very weak support. I think the Lib Dems will do terribly at the election due to them backing down over tuition fees. The good things they have done will be overshadowed by this, in my opinion.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 14:19:08 GMT
Do you think Lib Dem Voters will forgive the party to selling out, or do you think they will either stay away or switch votes, Lib Dem have always had a very weak support. I think the Lib Dems will do terribly at the election due to them backing down over tuition fees. The good things they have done will be overshadowed by this, in my opinion. A shame really because the liberals legacy in this government t should not be fees As you said they have been s good moderating influence over the Tories and the front bench has benefitted from cross party experience
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 30, 2015 15:01:56 GMT
Without turning this into a debate, who do you THINK will win and why, not who do you WANT to win. . About as sincere as the phrase, "I'm not a racist, but..."
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Post by starkiller on Mar 30, 2015 15:02:30 GMT
Will be doing everything I can to avoid this meaningless crap.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:24:29 GMT
Labour and SNP this time !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:26:54 GMT
Labour and SNP this time ! Ouch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:27:21 GMT
Will be doing everything I can to avoid this meaningless crap. That's good to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 17:15:27 GMT
I honestly think ukip will do a lot better than the recent polls suggest, as all the anti ukip agenda of the last couple of months ....(not so much from labour and conservatives, but the media, and young leftwing activists) has made a lot voters keep schtum.
That said, I agree with harryburrows
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 17:59:32 GMT
I honestly think ukip will do a lot better than the recent polls suggest, as all the anti ukip agenda of the last couple of months ....(not so much from labour and conservatives, but the media, and young leftwing activists) has made a lot voters keep schtum. That said, I agree with harryburrows Fucking hell you do
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Post by draytondave on Mar 30, 2015 18:09:14 GMT
I am voting UKIP but I think the Tories will get back in. The thought of jocks that want out if the UK having a significant say in what happens in the UK is just Bollox.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 18:30:12 GMT
I am voting UKIP but I think the Tories will get back in. The thought of jocks that want out if the UK having a significant say in what happens in the UK is just Bollox. Quite right Dave , a Trojan horse in the House of Commons , how would milibland control that mob , the hight of hypocrisy by salmond and his cronies
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 19:07:58 GMT
This will be one of the closest elections for decades. David Milliband would have won it for Labour but not Ed. The Tories will be fighting the Liberals in the South as well as UKIP and Europe will be the central issue.
For Labour the central issue, as Salop says, is the Economy and trust.
Chuck in the SNP for Labour or and the Ulster Unionists for the Tories and it's hands down for a Full House.
Yet again we could see a small party holding the balance of power as the Lib-Dems have done for the last 4 years a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
Lets hope it's not that fecking awful Alec Salmon
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 30, 2015 20:24:18 GMT
Normally the economy determines the winner - in that if the incumbent has done a decent job they get back in, if they've messed up they get kicked out.
On that basis the Tories should win. They've certainly not messed the economy up. But it looks like new rules may apply this time.
Looks like being the most interesting election for a long time with Labour missing out big time in Scotland. Still find it hard to believe the SNP will win so many seats up here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:33:13 GMT
I honestly think ukip will do a lot better than the recent polls suggest, as all the anti ukip agenda of the last couple of months ....(not so much from labour and conservatives, but the media, and young leftwing activists) has made a lot voters keep schtum. That said, I agree with harryburrows Fucking hell you do I don't want to
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 23:02:39 GMT
Will be doing everything I can to avoid this meaningless crap. Exactly don't vote it only encourages the buggers. There should be a none of the above box on the ballot card
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Post by Northy on Mar 31, 2015 5:31:14 GMT
It's going to be tighter than a jocks wallet in a bar.
Many different scenarios of coalitions could take place, we could even see a 3 party coalition.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 5:54:40 GMT
It's going to be tighter than a jocks wallet in a bar. Many different scenarios of coalitions could take place, we could even see a 3 party coalition. I didn't know harry was a jock.....typical ex shopkeeper tendencies tho
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 31, 2015 7:40:54 GMT
It's going to be tighter than a jocks wallet in a bar. Many different scenarios of coalitions could take place, we could even see a 3 party coalition. I didn't know harry was a jock.....typical ex shopkeeper tendencies tho Are you referring to the short measures on the oaties
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Post by redstriper on Mar 31, 2015 7:47:06 GMT
Ukips policies are most in line with my thinking - but they look like a rag tag bunch of chancers, not sure I can bring myself to trust them.
when watching a race of any kind one usually has somebody they want to win, pretty difficult to root for anyone in this lot.
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