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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 13:57:31 GMT
Is that Ireland committed the worst tackle of the day and should have been off before the Figueroa challenge.
Meyler is always the victim isn't he?
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 13:58:30 GMT
He's hanging on for grim life. Can you blame him? Ireland's tackle was pretty poor, but the Figueroa one was just awful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 14:01:43 GMT
To be fair it was a dreadful stamp tackle that could have caused some damage, so he is right.
Let's not let our red and white tinted eyes cloud things.
Ireland's tackle was a red all day and night.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 14:04:04 GMT
To be fair it was a dreadful stamp tackle that could have caused some damage, so he is right. Let's not let our red and white tinted eyes cloud things. Ireland's tackle was a red all day and night. Being honest, I've still not seen it but it just seems that there's always more to it when we are involved. If we had injured a player like that there would be bloody hell to pay. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 14:07:08 GMT
To be fair it was a dreadful stamp tackle that could have caused some damage, so he is right. Let's not let our red and white tinted eyes cloud things. Ireland's tackle was a red all day and night. Being honest, I've still not seen it but it just seems that there's always more to it when we are involved. If we had injured a player like that there would be bloody hell to pay. Have a look at it when you can. We have to be honest here and say Ireland got away with one, at least in one sense. I know what you mean about the rest. Frustrating. |
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Post by nik80 on Mar 2, 2015 14:19:06 GMT
As poor as it was, in essence, the Ireland tackle was dealt with, as the free kick was awarded. This idea being banded on MOTD and now by bloody Graham Poll on TalkSport, that the Figueroa challenge was made in retribution is a nonsense as, leniently or otherwise the referee had dealt with the initial Ireland tackle. Figueroa's on the other hand....
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 14:21:50 GMT
Being honest, I've still not seen it but it just seems that there's always more to it when we are involved. If we had injured a player like that there would be bloody hell to pay. Have a look at it when you can. We have to be honest here and say Ireland got away with one, at least in one sense. I know what you mean about the rest. Frustrating. I asked about it on Twitter but I've still not had anyone send me a link. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 2, 2015 14:23:53 GMT
That cheap dig by MOTD was embarrassing
Along with BT sport they still have an agenda against SCFC
If any player ftom any other club had been in Ireland's position they would not have dragged that first nothing challenge up
The editor has scrawled through the footage to nail him and SCFC
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Post by Davef on Mar 2, 2015 14:24:17 GMT
Strange, I don't remember Ryan Shawcross being cut any slack by the media, pundits and ex-referees when he went through the back of Adebayor after he'd stuck his studs into Ryan's stomach that time.
In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, the Adebayor challenge on Shawcross wasn't shown in the highlights, just Ryan's foul.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 14:30:53 GMT
Strange, I don't remember Ryan Shawcross being cut any slack by the media, pundits and ex-referees when he went through the back of Adebayor after he'd stuck his studs into Ryan's stomach that time. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, the Adebayor challenge on Shawcross wasn't shown in the highlights, just Ryan's foul. Spot on, funny that isn't it? |
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Post by colinroberts1 on Mar 2, 2015 14:39:49 GMT
As poor as it was, in essence, the Ireland tackle was dealt with, as the free kick was awarded. This idea being banded on MOTD and now by bloody Graham Poll on TalkSport, that the Figueroa challenge was made in retribution is a nonsense as, leniently or otherwise the referee had dealt with the initial Ireland tackle. Figueroa's on the other hand.... anyone got a link to the injury that meyler sustained from irelands tackle ? want to know the reason for the retribution that was dished out !! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 14:43:36 GMT
Something should be done about the studs, if that is what they can do. Figueroa should be banned. End of! Whether the referee saw it or not. Too easy an excuse IMHO.
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Post by dg19531 on Mar 2, 2015 14:56:10 GMT
I think it's just an attempt to divert attention away from the foul by Figueroa. SB is hoping that either Figueroa and Ireland are both punished retrospectively or neither. Of course his argument doesn't hold water because the Ireland foul was punished by a free kick.
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Post by werrington on Mar 2, 2015 14:59:43 GMT
My gripe is with the BBC and not Steve Bruce
We are beginning to sound like Arsenal fans .....these things have and will continue to happen in football and will only stop if it becomes a non contact sport
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 2, 2015 15:05:32 GMT
As poor as it was, in essence, the Ireland tackle was dealt with, as the free kick was awarded. This idea being banded on MOTD and now by bloody Graham Poll on TalkSport, that the Figueroa challenge was made in retribution is a nonsense as, leniently or otherwise the referee had dealt with the initial Ireland tackle. Figueroa's on the other hand.... I thought retaliation was a red card offence. Has that changed again now Stoke are involved. The big thing for me isn't the lack of a red card or anything of the sort. It was more the fact that we didn't even get a free kick for what was clearly a shocking tackle when looking at it from 50 yards away. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 15:12:09 GMT
Have a look at it when you can. We have to be honest here and say Ireland got away with one, at least in one sense. I know what you mean about the rest. Frustrating. I asked about it on Twitter but I've still not had anyone send me a link. 7:50ish onwards. |
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Post by nik80 on Mar 2, 2015 15:18:44 GMT
As poor as it was, in essence, the Ireland tackle was dealt with, as the free kick was awarded. This idea being banded on MOTD and now by bloody Graham Poll on TalkSport, that the Figueroa challenge was made in retribution is a nonsense as, leniently or otherwise the referee had dealt with the initial Ireland tackle. Figueroa's on the other hand.... I thought retaliation was a red card offence. Has that changed again now Stoke are involved. The big thing for me isn't the lack of a red card or anything of the sort. It was more the fact that we didn't even get a free kick for what was clearly a shocking tackle when looking at it from 50 yards away. Yeah very odd how 'retribution' in this instance seems fair game. Graham fucking Poll has literally just said that although the Figueroa tackle deserved a card, because the Ireland tackle wasn't dealt with then players are more likely to take the initiative to hand out retribution. Seems to have missed the fact that the Ireland tackle was dealt with as Hull on the freekick. As wank as he was, if a fucking ex ref can overlook such details, then what chance is there really? |
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 2, 2015 15:24:02 GMT
Graham (3 yellows = a red )poll what makes him an expert on anything .
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Post by Northy on Mar 2, 2015 15:24:12 GMT
The Ireland one, he's on his feet, calm and not out of control and I think he's hoping to just block the ball, the Hull player comes in very quick at low level, just nicks the ball and momentum takes him forward, the Figueroa one is just plain nasty, he's got the ball, and he then moves his foot to Ireland's leg.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 2, 2015 15:27:10 GMT
I thought retaliation was a red card offence. Has that changed again now Stoke are involved. The big thing for me isn't the lack of a red card or anything of the sort. It was more the fact that we didn't even get a free kick for what was clearly a shocking tackle when looking at it from 50 yards away. Yeah very odd how 'retribution' in this instance seems fair game. Graham fucking Poll has literally just said that although the Figueroa tackle deserved a card, because the Ireland tackle wasn't dealt with then players are more likely to take the initiative to hand out retribution. Seems to have missed the fact that the Ireland tackle was dealt with as Hull on the freekick. As wank as he was, if a fucking ex ref can overlook such details, then what chance is there really?
He said that poor refereeing leads to players taking things into their own hands. He said that it is the referee's number one priority to protect the players by dishing out correct punishments to bad challenges, something which Swarbrick failed to do TWICE. He didn't say or even intimate that retribution was fair game.
Real time, Ireland's didn't look that bad, slowed down it was very naughty and I bet if the ref had seen it properly he would of gone. The Elmohamady one is appalling and right in front of the Lino - he should of been sent off.
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Post by Davef on Mar 2, 2015 15:28:52 GMT
Graham (3 yellows = a red )poll what makes him an expert on anything . Poll has said that Crouch was offside in his Mail column today. That's all you need to know about this excuse of a (former) referee. What a dick. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 15:28:49 GMT
Think Ireland's is a booking and Figuero's is just a weird, reckless thing to do. We constantly have it rammed down our throats that an out of control challenge is a dangerous one and a red card so it's only fair if the opposition get that as well. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 2, 2015 15:33:49 GMT
The Ireland one, he's on his feet, calm and not out of control and I think he's hoping to just block the ball, the Hull player comes in very quick at low level, just nicks the ball and momentum takes him forward, the Figueroa one is just plain nasty, he's got the ball, and he then moves his foot to Ireland's leg. Not defending Ireland's 'tackle' on Meyler it was a bit naughty and deserved a yellow (how on earth did Swarbrick think Eric deserved yellow for his 'foul' but Ireland didn't for his?) However, there can be no justification whatsoever for Figueroa's challenge. Yes he won the ball initially but then followed through and deliberately 'did' Ireland through the back. I actually believe he makes a second lunge, a totally separate movement, in order to bring his foot down onto Irelands calf. It was a sneaky, horrible, dangerous tackle but Swarbrick apparently saw nothing wrong with it.  |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 15:35:28 GMT
Graham (3 yellows = a red )poll what makes him an expert on anything . Poll has said that Crouch was offside in his Mail column today. That's all you need to know about this excuse of a (former) referee. What a dick. Course he was Dave. Bruce said it was a decision officials should be getting right as its so obvious!  |
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Post by nik80 on Mar 2, 2015 15:35:42 GMT
Yeah very odd how 'retribution' in this instance seems fair game. Graham fucking Poll has literally just said that although the Figueroa tackle deserved a card, because the Ireland tackle wasn't dealt with then players are more likely to take the initiative to hand out retribution. Seems to have missed the fact that the Ireland tackle was dealt with as Hull on the freekick. As wank as he was, if a fucking ex ref can overlook such details, then what chance is there really?
He said that poor refereeing leads to players taking things into their own hands. He said that it is the referee's number one priority to protect the players by dishing out correct punishments to bad challenges, something which Swarbrick failed to do TWICE. He didn't say or even intimate that retribution was fair game.
Real time, Ireland's didn't look that bad, slowed down it was very naughty and I bet if the ref had seen it properly he would of gone. The Elmohamady one is appalling and right in front of the Lino - he should of been sent off.
As for Bruce, well he's right.
And neither did I intimate that Poll said it was fair game, just that it was more likely to happen if referees don't get the initial decision right. I like to think I'm reasonably objective when it comes to decisions given for and against Stoke, as objective as you can be whilst still supporting your team. I didn't think the Ireland tackle was a red card, although I've seen players walk for less, but the fact remains that in the referee's eyes, the incident had been dealt with, yet all officials completely disregarded the Figueroa challenge. I'm just pissed off that we've lost yet another player actually. Makes no odds what happens to Hull and Figueroa to me now. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2015 15:37:58 GMT
As poor as it was, in essence, the Ireland tackle was dealt with, as the free kick was awarded. This idea being banded on MOTD and now by bloody Graham Poll on TalkSport, that the Figueroa challenge was made in retribution is a nonsense as, leniently or otherwise the referee had dealt with the initial Ireland tackle. Figueroa's on the other hand.... anyone got a link to the injury that meyler sustained from irelands tackle ? want to know the reason for the retribution that was dished out !! Its the challenge not the injury that people are saying he got his own back for. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 15:39:27 GMT
I'm stunned people don't think Ireland's was a red. 2 inches to the right and Meyler has a serious problem. Timing of a tackle shouldn't determine if a player gets hurt or not. If it does then it's excessive force IMO. I'm assuming if Jack Wilshere did something similar on Bojan, for example, that we'd be screaming for a little more than a yellow. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 15:39:29 GMT
anyone got a link to the injury that meyler sustained from irelands tackle ? want to know the reason for the retribution that was dished out !! Its the challenge not the injury that people are saying he got his own back for. Now I've seen it I still don't think it was THAT bad. Bit naughty? Maybe? Yellow card? Definitely. Worst challenge of the day? No chance. |
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Post by Northy on Mar 2, 2015 15:40:21 GMT
anyone got a link to the injury that meyler sustained from irelands tackle ? want to know the reason for the retribution that was dished out !! Its the challenge not the injury that people are saying he got his own back for. Ireland challenged Meyler so he gets Figueroa to do his dirty work? he's a bit of a shithouse then. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 2, 2015 15:40:28 GMT
I'm stunned people don't think Ireland's was a red. 2 inches to the right and Meyler has a serious problem. Timing of a tackle shouldn't determine if a player gets hurt or not. If it does then it's excessive force IMO. I'm assuming if Jack Wilshere did something similar on Bojan, for example, that we'd be screaming for a little more than a yellow. I reckon the one on Pieters was worse than that, mate. |
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