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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 1, 2015 16:11:02 GMT
I'm watching the replay and I really don't see how its over the ball, he smashes it away and the because of that he carries on into Ireland, its a yellow card all day long for me. Sorry mate that's absolute rubbish. Figueroa (sp?) knew exactly what he was doing. Yellow card.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 1, 2015 16:11:21 GMT
Is this reviewable if the officials saw the incident? Didn't think so, which is very unfortuate.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Mar 1, 2015 16:12:25 GMT
Sorry mate that's absolute rubbish. Figueroa (sp?) knew exactly what he was doing. Yellow card. Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 1, 2015 16:14:27 GMT
Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right? The challenge gets the card not the resulting injury, the injury has nothing to do with the colour of the card, anyway there's no more I can say without constantly repeating myself over and over so I'll leave it at that.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 1, 2015 16:17:41 GMT
Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right? So we have now gone full circle. The injury sustained determines the card. The previous poster on here was correct, we are now arguing Arsenal's case for them.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 1, 2015 16:18:33 GMT
Right in front of the linesman. Yep. He was as good as that pantomime referee.
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Post by adamsson on Mar 1, 2015 16:19:30 GMT
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Post by britvic72 on Mar 1, 2015 16:21:25 GMT
No retrospective action as officials saw it according to Mail!!!
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Post by HappyClapper on Mar 1, 2015 16:35:29 GMT
That looks gruesome If anyone missed the incident It goes through me every time I look at it!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 1, 2015 16:37:33 GMT
Has anyone seen the challenge that Ireland supposedly did on Meyler only it seems that Graham "I love Stoke" Poll's view is that Figueroa was "taking the law into his own hands" after Ireland was lucky to stay on the pitch.
I don't recall anything that bad and am a bit perturbed that the stance is almost "he had it coming".
Doesn't seem to be the case when other players at higher profile clubs are concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 17:09:04 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 1, 2015 17:09:14 GMT
Ireland should have seen a yellow in the first half, but Figuroa's challenge certainly deserved a red card!
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Post by march4 on Mar 1, 2015 17:16:12 GMT
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 1, 2015 17:18:18 GMT
What the actual fuck has that got to do with anything? Tenuous? Yep. Desperate, agenda fuelled gutter journalism? Definitely.
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Post by march4 on Mar 1, 2015 17:22:41 GMT
What the actual fuck has that got to do with anything? Tenuous? Yep. Desperate, agenda fuelled gutter journalism? Definitely. Unbelievable, mate!
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Post by neoisd1 on Mar 1, 2015 17:22:37 GMT
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Mar 1, 2015 17:27:00 GMT
Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right? The challenge gets the card not the resulting injury, the injury has nothing to do with the colour of the card, anyway there's no more I can say without constantly repeating myself over and over so I'll leave it at that. My point that you appear to be missing is that the challenge was nasty, pre-meditated, could have been a potential leg breaker and therefore was a red card all day long. I have no idea what the ref and liner were thinking about signalling and giving nothing, not even a free kick. For god's sake, it's bad enough that the man is out for weeks and the officials do not respond to the incident that happened right in front of them; for some on here to suggest we are being overly 'precious' (a la Arsenal) beggars belief.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Mar 1, 2015 17:33:08 GMT
Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right? So we have now gone full circle. The injury sustained determines the card. The previous poster on here was correct, we are now arguing Arsenal's case for them. See my response to boskamp, it was never a yellow card challenge yesterday, red card all day long. Arsenal have nothing to do with the kick on Ireland, don't even know why you are bringing them up.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Mar 1, 2015 17:37:53 GMT
What the actual fuck has that got to do with anything? Tenuous? Yep. Desperate, agenda fuelled gutter journalism? Definitely. Fully agree Jamo, what a shit turn your brain off tabloid the DM is.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 1, 2015 17:40:43 GMT
So we have now gone full circle. The injury sustained determines the card. The previous poster on here was correct, we are now arguing Arsenal's case for them. See my response to boskamp, it was never a yellow card challenge yesterday, red card all day long. Arsenal have nothing to do with the kick on Ireland, don't even know why you are bringing them up. Solely because you are making the same argument that saw Ryan see red. It was the nature of the injury, not the actual incident, that affected the outcome.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Mar 1, 2015 17:44:11 GMT
See my response to boskamp, it was never a yellow card challenge yesterday, red card all day long. Arsenal have nothing to do with the kick on Ireland, don't even know why you are bringing them up. Solely because you are making the same argument that saw Ryan see red. It was the nature of the injury, not the actual incident, that affected the outcome. No I wasn't. I was replying to boskamp who saw the incident yesterday as worthy of a yellow only. Look again at the footage of the challenge, not the resulting injury. Are you seriously suggesting that it is not a red card challenge?
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 1, 2015 17:54:38 GMT
Solely because you are making the same argument that saw Ryan see red. It was the nature of the injury, not the actual incident, that affected the outcome. No I wasn't. I was replying to boskamp who saw the incident yesterday as worthy of a yellow only. Look again at the footage of the challenge, not the resulting injury. Are you seriously suggesting that it is not a red card challenge? I never saw it as a red in real time and looking at it on here, I think he has come in and cleared his lines. What else was he meant to do, given his momentum, with his leading foot. As I replied earlier, I believe the real issue, is with the "blades" on modern boots. It appears Ireland himself had no idea as to the extent of the wound, as if he did, there would be no way he would have continued playing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 19:01:12 GMT
I've seen some nasty gashes in my time but that takes the biscuit
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Post by snapper23 on Mar 1, 2015 19:52:49 GMT
Which really underlines the point that the officials were at best chronically incompetent
Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by moaty on Mar 1, 2015 20:34:57 GMT
Ok so on that basis it would be a red if he had decapitated him, right? The challenge gets the card not the resulting injury, the injury has nothing to do with the colour of the card, anyway there's no more I can say without constantly repeating myself over and over so I'll leave it at that. Sorry mate thats just bullshit. Try telling your theory to Peter walton when he only sent off shawcross because he looked down and saw ramsey's leg broken. That challenge on Ireland was 10 fucking times worse.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 1, 2015 20:42:31 GMT
Wow, didn't know it was that severe during the match... just when Ireland was passing himself into good form too... atrocious that tackle. I'd start Adam in his spot this week and bring on Cameron or go about it vice-versa against Everton.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 1, 2015 20:47:11 GMT
To be fair even looking at this incident numerous times, whilst the collision DOES look bad, it also seems like it was his momentum that caused it. I think it is a bit unfair / presumptious to suggest any pre-meditation...not that this stopped the FA when Adam got done.
I don't recall any reaction from the other Stoke players...not that they do tend to react (unlike Arsenal / Chelsea et al). By the same token, Ireland's challenge did look naughty
Maybe the ref wasn't QUITE as useless as I had thought...only a bit mind
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 1, 2015 20:56:40 GMT
I'm still mystified as to how you treat an injury like that. Strange that he played on. Is it a case of stitching it up and protecting it till it's healed
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 1, 2015 21:03:34 GMT
Fucking hell. I hate the Daily Mail.
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Post by moaty on Mar 1, 2015 21:30:17 GMT
To be fair even looking at this incident numerous times, whilst the collision DOES look bad, it also seems like it was his momentum that caused it. Please tell me your on a wind up...
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