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Post by thestokielad on Feb 19, 2015 15:29:56 GMT
Are we still after him? There were rumours that we putting in a 12m pound bid in for him in the summer. He looks like a great player, pacey, can beat a man and scores a lot of goals. He also won Ukraine player of the year twice.
I'd love to see us spend big money on good players because since he's been here sparky's probably hasn't even spent 10 million yet. By the end of this season we should have saved up a lot of money and Peter Coates is a billionaire so I hope we can spend money and be aiming for top 8 and try win one of the cups in the next few seasons
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 19, 2015 15:31:13 GMT
According to the ITK's on here, that ship has sailed.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 19, 2015 15:33:17 GMT
According to the ITK's on here, that ship has sailed. I'm hoping it's had engine problems and had to turn 'round :D |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 19, 2015 15:33:49 GMT
Are we still after him? There were rumours that we putting in a 12m pound bid in for him in the summer. He looks like a great player, pacey, can beat a man and scores a lot of goals. He also won Ukraine player of the year twice. I'd love to see us spend big money on good players because since he's been here sparky's probably hasn't even spent 10 million yet. By the end of this season we should have saved up a lot of money and Peter Coates is a billionaire so I hope we can spend money and be aiming for top 8 and try win one of the cups in the next few seasons Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 19, 2015 15:49:50 GMT
Are we still after him? There were rumours that we putting in a 12m pound bid in for him in the summer. He looks like a great player, pacey, can beat a man and scores a lot of goals. He also won Ukraine player of the year twice. I'd love to see us spend big money on good players because since he's been here sparky's probably hasn't even spent 10 million yet. By the end of this season we should have saved up a lot of money and Peter Coates is a billionaire so I hope we can spend money and be aiming for top 8 and try win one of the cups in the next few seasons Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. So is it Bet365 who effectively own the club, of which Peter Coates is a minority shareholder. Or does Peter Coates own the club, independent of the Company? |
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 19, 2015 15:52:33 GMT
Are we still after him? There were rumours that we putting in a 12m pound bid in for him in the summer. He looks like a great player, pacey, can beat a man and scores a lot of goals. He also won Ukraine player of the year twice. I'd love to see us spend big money on good players because since he's been here sparky's probably hasn't even spent 10 million yet. By the end of this season we should have saved up a lot of money and Peter Coates is a billionaire so I hope we can spend money and be aiming for top 8 and try win one of the cups in the next few seasons Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. Seem to remember her brother has a 49% stake in Bet 365,and Denise 51%I don't think Peter has a stake in Bet365 |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 19, 2015 15:56:33 GMT
Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. So is it Bet365 who effectively own the club, of which Peter Coates is a minority shareholder. Or does Peter Coates own the club, independent of the Company? Bet365 own the club and Peter is a minority shareholder in Bet365. I assume this is for inheritance tax reasons - it would be stupid at his age for him to have a big stake in the family business. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 19, 2015 15:58:27 GMT
Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. Seem to remember her brother has a 49% stake in Bet 365,and Denise 51%I don't think Peter has a stake in Bet365 He does have a stake in Bet 365 but it is very much a minority stake. As I said in the post above, it would not make sense at his age for him to have a huge stake in the family business for inheritance tax planning reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 16:00:33 GMT
Peter Coates is NOT a billionaire. Bet365 are worth over a £billion but Peter only owns about 10% of the company. Denise is the biggest shareholder by a long way. Seem to remember her brother has a 49% stake in Bet 365,and Denise 51%I don't think Peter has a stake in Bet365 SCFC (or Stoke City football club holdings) is a subsidiary of Stoke City Holdings limited which is 100% owned by bet365 group limited in which Denise has a 50.25% stakehold, John has just 25%, Peter has 5.64% and the rest is made up of 2-6% stakes with other Coates family memebers. Peter Coates (or St. Peter to us) is the Chairman of Stoke NOT the owner. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 19, 2015 16:02:21 GMT
Seem to remember her brother has a 49% stake in Bet 365,and Denise 51%I don't think Peter has a stake in Bet365 He does have a stake in Bet 365 but it is very much a minority stake. As I said in the post above, it would not make sense at his age for him to have a huge stake in the family business for inheritance tax planning reasons. Exactly! John and Denise own Bet 365 pretty much, I understand, and it is a Bet 365 company that owns the club. I do worry what will happen when Sir Peter finally snuffs it. Will the kids be so keen to carry on bankrolling the club or see the chance to sell out for a decent profit now we are a top ten club (if we still are by then)? As for Yarmo, we missed our chance and he'll go to a Champions League club in western Europe this summer. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 19, 2015 16:02:37 GMT
So is it Bet365 who effectively own the club, of which Peter Coates is a minority shareholder. Or does Peter Coates own the club, independent of the Company? Bet365 own the club and Peter is a minority shareholder in Bet365. I assume this is for inheritance tax reasons - it would be stupid at his age for him to have a big stake in the family business. Yes I thought that must be the case when you made your previous post. It is just so widely reported that he owns the club, when in fact, he doesn't, but is still the clubs Chairman. |
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Post by Davef on Feb 19, 2015 16:47:13 GMT
According to the ITK's on here, that ship has sailed. The ITK's on here don't know who's at bloody training these days. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 19, 2015 16:49:24 GMT
According to the ITK's on here, that ship has sailed. The ITK's on here don't know who's at bloody training these days. I notice he's keeping his head down today. |
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Post by RAF on Feb 19, 2015 16:51:48 GMT
Last time I spoke to an ITK'r on here I was told Aguedelo was a formality signing in Jan.
That said I'm glad he was wrong!
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 19, 2015 17:56:28 GMT
Last time I spoke to an ITK'r on here I was told Aguedelo was a formality signing in Jan. That said I'm glad he was wrong! H
Surely his moniker & "ITK" don't belong in the same sentence?
Know what you mean (no re-stocking of future bench deadwood definitely not required) but he is a future "£10M player" according to LMH don't forget.*
Oh and we should kidnap Gary Mellor until he signs. Simple as.
* As in the LMH that wanted to fork out £8M + for Diouffy with just six months to go on his contract. Hope that doesn't become a trend. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 19, 2015 18:10:58 GMT
Last time I spoke to an ITK'r on here I was told Aguedelo was a formality signing in Jan. That said I'm glad he was wrong! H
Surely his moniker & "ITK" don't belong in the same sentence?
Know what you mean (no re-stocking of future bench deadwood definitely not required) but he is a future "£10M player" according to LMH don't forget.*
Oh and we should kidnap Gary Mellor until he signs. Simple as.
* As in the LMH that wanted to fork out £8M + for Diouffy with just six months to go on his contract. Hope that doesn't become a trend.Hasn't he moved on from Mellor, and that's the reason it is dead in the water. |
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 19, 2015 18:19:36 GMT
Wasn't that Ser Gareth of Hackett though?
Surely his moniker & "ITK" don't belong in the same sentence?
Know what you mean (no re-stocking of future bench deadwood definitely not required) but he is a future "£10M player" according to LMH don't forget.*
Oh and we should kidnap Gary Mellor until he signs. Simple as.
* As in the LMH that wanted to fork out £8M + for Diouffy with just six months to go on his contract. Hope that doesn't become a trend. Hasn't he moved on from Mellor, and that's the reason it is dead in the water.
OK.
You're far more ITK than me then.  |
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 19, 2015 18:32:39 GMT
I think Yarmolenko got himself a new agent, signed the new deal at Kiev and is sitting tight waiting for big offers from the European superpowers in the summer.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 19, 2015 18:57:44 GMT
Probably a good thing that he is not coming, if he didn't score 20 goals in the first few games, some on here would be wanting to fook him of on loan and saying that he will never be premiership quality  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 19, 2015 19:41:26 GMT
Were we ever.
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Post by Northy on Feb 20, 2015 16:11:04 GMT
So is it Bet365 who effectively own the club, of which Peter Coates is a minority shareholder. Or does Peter Coates own the club, independent of the Company? Bet365 own the club and Peter is a minority shareholder in Bet365. I assume this is for inheritance tax reasons - it would be stupid at his age for him to have a big stake in the family business. Coates the labour supporting tax dodger  according to some it's just rich tories that dodge tax  |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 20, 2015 16:22:16 GMT
So is it Bet365 who effectively own the club, of which Peter Coates is a minority shareholder. Or does Peter Coates own the club, independent of the Company? Bet365 own the club and Peter is a minority shareholder in Bet365. I assume this is for inheritance tax reasons - it would be stupid at his age for him to have a big stake in the family business. Are you saying the socialist Coates family are avoiding taxes for Chancellor Balls to spend on the needy poor? I have believed every single word, in every single one of your threads and posts but not this time  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 20, 2015 16:25:56 GMT
Bet365 own the club and Peter is a minority shareholder in Bet365. I assume this is for inheritance tax reasons - it would be stupid at his age for him to have a big stake in the family business. Are you saying the socialist Coates family are avoiding taxes for Chancellor Balls to spend on the needy poor? I have believed every single word, in every single one of your threads and posts but not this time Even a humble foot soldier (and Liberal tree hugger) like myself had to get himself involved with inheritance tax planning (with my father's agreement) many years ago when my mother died. Hopefully, you'll get the chance one day! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 20, 2015 16:40:59 GMT
Are you saying the socialist Coates family are avoiding taxes for Chancellor Balls to spend on the needy poor? I have believed every single word, in every single one of your threads and posts but not this time Even a humble foot soldier (and Liberal tree hugger) like myself had to get himself involved with inheritance tax planning (with my father's agreement) many years ago when my mother died. Hopefully, you'll get the chance one day! No, 'L-P' neither my parents nor myself will! But, my dad was a Labour councillor in Burton-on-Trent. There are some socialists who practice what they preach but being a Liberal you wouldn't, like Nick Clegg, understand what standing by your principles means! |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 20, 2015 16:49:53 GMT
Lol at that picture. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 20, 2015 16:51:48 GMT
Even a humble foot soldier (and Liberal tree hugger) like myself had to get himself involved with inheritance tax planning (with my father's agreement) many years ago when my mother died. Hopefully, you'll get the chance one day! No, 'L-P' neither my parents nor myself will! But, my dad was a Labour councillor in Burton-on-Trent. There are some socialists who practice what they preach but being a Liberal you wouldn't, like Nick Clegg, understand what standing by your principles means! Now you've said that, you'll probably go and win a £million or so on the lottery - and then you'll get the chance to stick to your principles big time. To be serious for a minute, if Labour think that inheritance tax planning is so wrong, why have they never taken the option to close some or all of the (many, many) loop holes which enable millions of people with a bit of foresight to reduce their family's inheritance tax liability? Indeed, I don't even recall any motions at conference about it in recent years. I suspect that answer is that, despite your (obviously sincerely held) beliefs, the Labour Party as a whole, quite sensibly in my opinion, is not as against inheritance tax planning as you are. |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 20, 2015 16:56:25 GMT
Lol at that picture. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? That 'sentence' is doing my box in. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 20, 2015 16:56:41 GMT
No, 'L-P' neither my parents nor myself will! But, my dad was a Labour councillor in Burton-on-Trent. There are some socialists who practice what they preach but being a Liberal you wouldn't, like Nick Clegg, understand what standing by your principles means! Now you've said that, you'll probably go and win a £million or so on the lottery - and then you'll get the chance to stick to your principles big time. To be serious for a minute, if Labour think that inheritance tax planning is so wrong, why have they never taken the option to close some or all of the (many, many) loop holes which enable millions of people with a bit of foresight to reduce their family's inheritance tax liability? Indeed, I don't even recall any motions at conference about it in recent years. I suspect that answer is that, despite your (obviously sincerely held) beliefs, the Labour Party as a whole, quite sensibly in my opinion, is not as against inheritance tax planning as you are. I notice 'Lakeland-Potter' you're happy to collect your platinum plated civil service pension paid out of taxes paid for by S-o-T workers on the minimum wage! Keep on posting 'L-P' because your party will end up with minus votes in the general election  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 20, 2015 17:05:31 GMT
Now you've said that, you'll probably go and win a £million or so on the lottery - and then you'll get the chance to stick to your principles big time. To be serious for a minute, if Labour think that inheritance tax planning is so wrong, why have they never taken the option to close some or all of the (many, many) loop holes which enable millions of people with a bit of foresight to reduce their family's inheritance tax liability? Indeed, I don't even recall any motions at conference about it in recent years. I suspect that answer is that, despite your (obviously sincerely held) beliefs, the Labour Party as a whole, quite sensibly in my opinion, is not as against inheritance tax planning as you are. I notice 'Lakeland-Potter' you're happy to collect your platinum plated civil service pension paid out of taxes paid for by S-o-T workers on the minimum wage! Keep on posting 'L-P' because your party will end up with minus votes in the general election I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I thought that the voters of Stoke on Trent had paid for all of my pension. Luckily, as a public servant, I worked for the whole of the country (keeping us safe from smug drugglers and tax dodgers) so the whole of the country contributed to my pension - at least those who paid some of their taxes did - and a big thank you to them all. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 20, 2015 17:14:08 GMT
I notice 'Lakeland-Potter' you're happy to collect your platinum plated civil service pension paid out of taxes paid for by S-o-T workers on the minimum wage! Keep on posting 'L-P' because your party will end up with minus votes in the general election I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I thought that the voters of Stoke on Trent had paid for all of my pension. Luckily, as a public servant, I worked for the whole of the country (keeping us safe from smug drugglers and tax dodgers) so the whole of the country contributed to my pension - at least those who paid some of their taxes did - and a big thank you to them all. There's no better 'smug druggler' than yourself! You 'worked' all your life? Not one of the public sector managers I worked under, did a fcuking days work in their lives! Why the British people have been conned into thinking this, is a mystery! |
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