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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 16:41:20 GMT
Post by Roy Cropper on Feb 12, 2015 16:41:20 GMT
The amount of runs he's makes in behind only to be not played in is daft, Whelan played one yesterday and they hated it.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 16:52:04 GMT
Post by trigger on Feb 12, 2015 16:52:04 GMT
I sincerely mean this but he's a far worse player than a certain Cameron Jerome and earning a reported 65k a week.
Without a doubt he was an absolute joke last night, there's loads of examples throughout his time with us but last night....
First half ball thrown into feet, no pressure, mis controls and pretty sure they broke, scored, disallowed.
Complete air shot, second half WTF was that
Goes clear on goal and.......falls over.
Shocking, shocking player.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 16:54:09 GMT
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Feb 12, 2015 16:54:09 GMT
He never starts 2 games on the trot in the same position He's a centre forward and has through injuries to Odimwingie and Moses has started prodominently on the wings Cut him some slack eh Close the thread, we have a winner.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:09:47 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 12, 2015 17:09:47 GMT
We do have eyes. Some players look decent footballers.
Diouf doesnt.
I dont need 2 seasons to work out if a player can trap a ball and finish chances. Got nothing to do with being played out of position. If you are good enough you are good enough wherever you play. Way too many excuses for him
Hes crap out wide Hes crap up front on his own Hes crap up front with Crouch
oh so the answer must be he needs to play with Walters up front lol. Or play for 20 games with Bojan behind him. Or in Germany lol
laughable. If a player is good enough he is just good enough.
We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:13:56 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 12, 2015 17:13:56 GMT
We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. Ah the old classic line, I love that. I bet you don't really though do you? Oh yeah I forgot to add a lol, LOL (Shakes head)
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:16:42 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 12, 2015 17:16:42 GMT
We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. Ah the old classic line, I love that. I bet you don't really though do you? Oh yeah I forgot to add a lol, LOL (Shakes head) why would I want a player that my team bought to fail? I dont understand in what universe that would make any sense. With Diouf Im just saying what I see. I have been know to be wrong but it wont stop me having an opinion
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:17:25 GMT
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Post by werrington on Feb 12, 2015 17:17:25 GMT
We do have eyes. Some players look decent footballers. Diouf doesnt. I dont need 2 seasons to work out if a player can trap a ball and finish chances. Got nothing to do with being played out of position. If you are good enough you are good enough wherever you play. Way too many excuses for him Hes crap out wide Hes crap up front on his own Hes crap up front with Crouch oh so the answer must be he needs to play with Walters up front lol. Or play for 20 games with Bojan behind him. Or in Germany lol laughable. If a player is good enough he is just good enough. We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. Put in the pile marked below Odimwingie , Bojan , Muniesa etc When will folk learn
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:23:07 GMT
Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 12, 2015 17:23:07 GMT
We do have eyes. Some players look decent footballers. Diouf doesnt. I dont need 2 seasons to work out if a player can trap a ball and finish chances. Got nothing to do with being played out of position. If you are good enough you are good enough wherever you play. Way too many excuses for him Hes crap out wide Hes crap up front on his own Hes crap up front with Crouch oh so the answer must be he needs to play with Walters up front lol. Or play for 20 games with Bojan behind him. Or in Germany lol laughable. If a player is good enough he is just good enough. We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. Put in the pile marked below Odimwingie , Bojan , Muniesa Pulis When will folk learn
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:27:19 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 12, 2015 17:27:19 GMT
Ah the old classic line, I love that. I bet you don't really though do you? Oh yeah I forgot to add a lol, LOL (Shakes head) why would I want a player that my team bought to fail? I dont understand in what universe that would make any sense. With Diouf Im just saying what I see. I have been know to be wrong but it wont stop me having an opinion Because that's how it works, who likes to be proved wrong?
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:46:51 GMT
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Post by greystokie on Feb 12, 2015 17:46:51 GMT
We do have eyes. Some players look decent footballers. Diouf doesnt. I dont need 2 seasons to work out if a player can trap a ball and finish chances. Got nothing to do with being played out of position. If you are good enough you are good enough wherever you play. Way too many excuses for him Hes crap out wide Hes crap up front on his own Hes crap up front with Crouch oh so the answer must be he needs to play with Walters up front lol. Or play for 20 games with Bojan behind him. Or in Germany lol laughable. If a player is good enough he is just good enough. We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. I'm with you on this one, Matt. I accept all the arguments about being played out of position, etc. However he just doesn't do the basics right in any position. No matter where he plays and how hard he works, he can't control a ball and his touch is awful.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 17:52:30 GMT
Post by thestatusquo on Feb 12, 2015 17:52:30 GMT
He is no better than Cameron Jerome on the evidence so far - yes, he has had a stop/start season, yes, he has been pushed around the forward line, yes, he has not had a settled team around him, but the quality is not there: poor first touch, no real skill on the ball, lack of anticipation, snatching at chances. I am just glad we did not pay the fee Hannover wanted the summer before. We are still looking for that starting striker. Diouf should be a squad player, a pacey option off the bench or someone to fill in for injuries. This is how I feel. He seems to guess where he should be rather than instinctively know it. Having pace will help him but he doesn't seem to read the game well.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 18:06:21 GMT
Post by march4 on Feb 12, 2015 18:06:21 GMT
I've repeatedly championed him on here, but I'm beginning to lose faith with him.
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Post by miggo on Feb 12, 2015 18:09:21 GMT
I sincerely mean this but he's a far worse player than a certain Cameron Jerome and earning a reported 65k a week. Without a doubt he was an absolute joke last night, there's loads of examples throughout his time with us but last night.... First half ball thrown into feet, no pressure, mis controls and pretty sure they broke, scored, disallowed. Complete air shot, second half WTF was that Goes clear on goal and.......falls over. Shocking, shocking player. He may not be Costa but he is a work in progress. Lukaku has scored 8 in 25 this season and cost 27 million just think on that for a second before criticising a player that cost us nothing! Diouf has missed a month, been played out of position for more games than he has striker and scored 1 less goal. It's hard to find strikers in this league regardless of spending 50m on Fernando Torres or freebies like Diouf. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 18:13:24 GMT
Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 12, 2015 18:13:24 GMT
Willing lad and thought he did reasonably well, air shot apart but sadly I don't think he's up to snuff.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 18:23:41 GMT
Post by huddy on Feb 12, 2015 18:23:41 GMT
Its his touch that lets him down again and again. Shame
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 18:36:59 GMT
Post by alansuddick on Feb 12, 2015 18:36:59 GMT
Father, son,, brother, athlete, sprinter, nice guy, etc etc, footballer never in a fkin millin years! You tit...... Tits are useful , more so than orange clog wearing nazi collaborators
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 12, 2015 18:53:46 GMT
I can only call what I see. Writing him off though People have said they're not impressed with many aspects of what they have seen so far and fair play, he hasn't been good so far there's no debating that really... But to write him off in his first season is beyond a joke I don't dislike him and there's aspects of his game I like but at his age do things like your touch really improve? Do you see him getting radically better?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 12, 2015 18:57:48 GMT
I sincerely mean this but he's a far worse player than a certain Cameron Jerome and earning a reported 65k a week. Without a doubt he was an absolute joke last night, there's loads of examples throughout his time with us but last night.... First half ball thrown into feet, no pressure, mis controls and pretty sure they broke, scored, disallowed. Complete air shot, second half WTF was that Goes clear on goal and.......falls over. Shocking, shocking player. He may not be Costa but he is a work in progress. Lukaku has scored 8 in 25 this season and cost 27 million just think on that for a second before criticising a player that cost us nothing! Diouf has missed a month, been played out of position for more games than he has striker and scored 1 less goal. It's hard to find strikers in this league regardless of spending 50m on Fernando Torres or freebies like Diouf. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Diouf isn't a kiddy, he's 27. And we didn't sign him because he was cheap n' cheerful, we'd been prepared to spend a fair wedge on him the previous January.
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Post by miggo on Feb 12, 2015 19:14:51 GMT
He may not be Costa but he is a work in progress. Lukaku has scored 8 in 25 this season and cost 27 million just think on that for a second before criticising a player that cost us nothing! Diouf has missed a month, been played out of position for more games than he has striker and scored 1 less goal. It's hard to find strikers in this league regardless of spending 50m on Fernando Torres or freebies like Diouf. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Diouf isn't a kiddy, he's 27. And we didn't sign him because he was cheap n' cheerful, we'd been prepared to spend a fair wedge on him the previous January. But we didn't so I'm not sure what your point is? Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:19:15 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2015 19:19:15 GMT
He was a free transfer Ffs. What do people expect Maradona? If we'd have spent a ridiculous fee whilst breaking our wage structure maybe you'd have an argument. Sent from my C6603 using proboards We tried too, and I'm led to believe he is on a very hefty wage, the comparison to Jerome is a good one, I can't see much difference.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:22:17 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2015 19:22:17 GMT
The amount of runs he's makes in behind only to be not played in is daft, Whelan played one yesterday and they hated it. Cameron put a nice one in for him last night (outside of his foot as ever) and Diouf decided to run in the opposite direction when it was clear where it was going.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:30:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 19:30:55 GMT
Writing him off though People have said they're not impressed with many aspects of what they have seen so far and fair play, he hasn't been good so far there's no debating that really... But to write him off in his first season is beyond a joke I don't dislike him and there's aspects of his game I like but at his age do things like your touch really improve? Do you see him getting radically better? You don't score 1 in 2 in the Bundesliga by chance is all I can say! Something to his game isn't there at the moment that's for certain but I think it's a confidence thing as much as anything
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:40:40 GMT
Post by Beardy200 on Feb 12, 2015 19:40:40 GMT
He never starts 2 games on the trot in the same position He's a centre forward and has through injuries to Odimwingie and Moses has started prodominently on the wings Cut him some slack eh Close the thread, we have a winner. I would agree and I'm willing to give him a lot more time yet as his attitude is first class but wherever you play your control and touch should not really be affected. So far it seems his ball control is awful. I'm hoping it's nerves and tension that will hopefully disappear but the longer it goes on the less confident i'm getting.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:42:09 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 12, 2015 19:42:09 GMT
A rich mans Vincent Pericard, he reminds me him. He's hopeless, won't cut it here. Bollocks First word that come into my mind too Mark
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Post by miggo on Feb 12, 2015 19:42:47 GMT
The amount of runs he's makes in behind only to be not played in is daft, Whelan played one yesterday and they hated it. Cameron put a nice one in for him last night (outside of his foot as ever) and Diouf decided to run in the opposite direction when it was clear where it was going. He also made a perfect intelligent run of the shoulder of mangala that Muniesa completely ballsed up in the first half. No player is perfect and it would cost you a fortune to find one that is close to perfection. His movement of the ball is great he is constantly looking to get in behind it's not his fault our midfielders are not intelligent enough to see the space. The problem is Diouf is a player that plays of the shoulder looking to get running space in front of him, the way we play doesn't allow this its normally coming in from Arnie or moses or knock downs from crouch which doesn't allow us to make use of his best attribute which is his pace. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:57:21 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Feb 12, 2015 19:57:21 GMT
We do have eyes. Some players look decent footballers. Diouf doesnt. I dont need 2 seasons to work out if a player can trap a ball and finish chances. Got nothing to do with being played out of position. If you are good enough you are good enough wherever you play. Way too many excuses for him Hes crap out wide Hes crap up front on his own Hes crap up front with Crouch oh so the answer must be he needs to play with Walters up front lol. Or play for 20 games with Bojan behind him. Or in Germany lol laughable. If a player is good enough he is just good enough. We have bought a dud. End of. pwingy I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think Im sticking my neck out here with this one. Put in the pile marked below Odimwingie , Bojan , Muniesa etc When will folk learn The first time I saw Bojan and Muniesa I could see straight away they were talented footballers and were well worth persevering with. Odemwingie had a decent history in the Premier League. Diouf has pace and a very good work ethic but little else I'm afraid.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 19:59:04 GMT
Post by nutterpotter on Feb 12, 2015 19:59:04 GMT
You can see how much it means to him to do well here. He works his bollocks off for the team and tries to get into the box as much as possible, but the ball doesn't seem to fall for him at the moment. His runs in behind the defence are quality and I think when Ireland is back, Diouf really could start to benefit from his through balls. I'm sure it'll start working out for him sooner rather than later.
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 20:01:31 GMT
Post by no1972 on Feb 12, 2015 20:01:31 GMT
He is no better than Tony Ellis/Paul Randall/Dave Bamber and many more so called strikers who have put the top on.
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Post by miggo on Feb 12, 2015 20:02:04 GMT
Put in the pile marked below Odimwingie , Bojan , Muniesa etc When will folk learn The first time I saw Bojan and Muniesa I could see straight away they were talented footballers and were well worth persevering with. Odemwingie had a decent history in the Premier League. Diouf has pace and a very good work ethic but little else I'm afraid. I'm sorry but both Muniesa and Bojan were terrible in not only there first appearance but there first second third forth.... It took muniesa 6 months and bojan 3 months to show any quality at all we all know it so no point bending the truth to fit your agenda. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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diouf
Feb 12, 2015 20:07:34 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Feb 12, 2015 20:07:34 GMT
The first time I saw Bojan and Muniesa I could see straight away they were talented footballers and were well worth persevering with. Odemwingie had a decent history in the Premier League. Diouf has pace and a very good work ethic but little else I'm afraid. I'm sorry but both Muniesa and Bojan were terrible in not only there first appearance but there first second third forth.... It took muniesa 6 months and bojan 3 months to show any quality at all we all know it so no point bending the truth to fit your agenda. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Neither Muni nor Bojan were terrible when they first came to the club and I posted how good they were from day 1. I really want Diouf to succeed here because he is a worker and I love his attitude, unfortunately I just don't think he's a very good footballer.
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