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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 28, 2015 14:46:22 GMT
Margaret Thatcher used to class Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? I suppose it's which perspective you look from? Thats because he was.
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Post by elsidibe on Jan 28, 2015 15:21:58 GMT
Margaret Thatcher used to class Nelson Mandela as a terrorist? I suppose it's which perspective you look from? Thats because he was. But then Thatcher's own security services (and those of the South African government of the time) both committed and endorsed acts of terrorism from Northern Ireland to Sub-Saharan Africa. The pot calling the kettle black - which Mandela was in a purely racial sense I concede.
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 29, 2015 10:11:43 GMT
Luckily no-one gives a shit what the Green Party think Scarily there are a lot of students being drawn in Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out.
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 10:23:19 GMT
Scarily there are a lot of students being drawn in Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out. Trust Funds???????? What fucking World do you live in, most of them will leave with over 30k worth of debt. Perhaps if they are persecuted by the courts and bailiffs one day they may not have the mental energy left to question any form of authority or the current status quo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 10:43:46 GMT
Scarily there are a lot of students being drawn in Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out. they live their lives in the fantasy world, that all the poor none working people are hard done to, desperately seeking work, lovely people who should have the equivilent funds as someone that works 60+ hours a week, and the whole world should skip hand in hand among the bluebells, butterflies and wind turbines. where in reality theres a lot of those people that are in that state because they are sub human scum through choice. and giving them more is like giving an Amazonian tribe an iPad each
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 29, 2015 10:56:14 GMT
Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out. Trust Funds???????? What fucking World do you live in, most of them will leave with over 30k worth of debt. Perhaps if they are persecuted by the courts and bailiffs one day they may not have the mental energy left to question any form of authority or the current status quo. If they can't afford to manage 30k of debt for a few years maybe they shouldn't be going there to study a BA in Drama or Sociology after all. Those studying worthwhile subjects shouldn't have much trouble paying it off. I paid mine off within a couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 10:58:45 GMT
Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out. they live their lives in the fantasy world, that all the poor none working people are hard done to, desperately seeking work, lovely people who should have the equivilent funds as someone that works 60+ hours a week, and the whole world should skip hand in hand among the bluebells, butterflies and wind turbines. where in reality theres a lot of those people that are in that state because they are sub human scum through choice. and giving them more is like giving an Amazonian tribe an iPad each Mate , how can you have possibly become so cynical in your outlook ?......... ......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 11:09:54 GMT
they live their lives in the fantasy world, that all the poor none working people are hard done to, desperately seeking work, lovely people who should have the equivilent funds as someone that works 60+ hours a week, and the whole world should skip hand in hand among the bluebells, butterflies and wind turbines. where in reality theres a lot of those people that are in that state because they are sub human scum through choice. and giving them more is like giving an Amazonian tribe an iPad each Mate , how can you have possibly become so cynical in your outlook ?......... ...... warrama like
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 11:16:18 GMT
Theyll soon change their minds once they get into the real world or their trust funds run out. they live their lives in the fantasy world, that all the poor none working people are hard done to, desperately seeking work, lovely people who should have the equivilent funds as someone that works 60+ hours a week, and the whole world should skip hand in hand among the bluebells, butterflies and wind turbines. where in reality theres a lot of those people that are in that state because they are sub human scum through choice. and giving them more is like giving an Amazonian tribe an iPad each Wow............. The "reality" according to Frasier. If i thought that was reality then i guess i too would probably consider UKIP. Explains quite a lot does that.
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 11:32:01 GMT
Trust Funds???????? What fucking World do you live in, most of them will leave with over 30k worth of debt. Perhaps if they are persecuted by the courts and bailiffs one day they may not have the mental energy left to question any form of authority or the current status quo. If they can't afford to manage 30k of debt for a few years maybe they shouldn't be going there to study a BA in Drama or Sociology after all. Those studying worthwhile subjects shouldn't have much trouble paying it off. I paid mine off within a couple of years. Well done, i'm very glad you have had a nice little tickle from your education and have done well enough in work to pay off your debt in such a short time. Your finger is so on the pulse, i'm sure any recent graduates reading will totally relate to your comments. Those that is that have done courses in subjects you consider to be worthwhile, the others will obviously be too busy being bitter and jealous to get a job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 12:26:35 GMT
they live their lives in the fantasy world, that all the poor none working people are hard done to, desperately seeking work, lovely people who should have the equivilent funds as someone that works 60+ hours a week, and the whole world should skip hand in hand among the bluebells, butterflies and wind turbines. where in reality theres a lot of those people that are in that state because they are sub human scum through choice. and giving them more is like giving an Amazonian tribe an iPad each Wow............. The "reality" according to Frasier. If i thought that was reality then i guess i too would probably consider UKIP. Explains quite a lot does that. Oh WOW MAAAN
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 29, 2015 15:54:35 GMT
If they can't afford to manage 30k of debt for a few years maybe they shouldn't be going there to study a BA in Drama or Sociology after all. Those studying worthwhile subjects shouldn't have much trouble paying it off. I paid mine off within a couple of years. Well done, i'm very glad you have had a nice little tickle from your education and have done well enough in work to pay off your debt in such a short time. Your finger is so on the pulse, i'm sure any recent graduates reading will totally relate to your comments. Those that is that have done courses in subjects you consider to be worthwhile, the others will obviously be too busy being bitter and jealous to get a job. You see the problem is too many of them think theyre entitled to go to university, just like too many think theyre entitled to a top job when they graduate. Theyre not.
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 16:44:33 GMT
Well done, i'm very glad you have had a nice little tickle from your education and have done well enough in work to pay off your debt in such a short time. Your finger is so on the pulse, i'm sure any recent graduates reading will totally relate to your comments. Those that is that have done courses in subjects you consider to be worthwhile, the others will obviously be too busy being bitter and jealous to get a job. You see the problem is too many of them think theyre entitled to go to university, just like too many think theyre entitled to a top job when they graduate. Theyre not. If only they were as good as you there wouldn't be a problem, i see that now. Perhaps they should introduce some kind of criteria before they get accepted, you know like have a certain amount of A levels or something. Either that or maybe they should only be accepted if they can prove they have the ability to pay, perhaps check if their parents can afford beforehand. It's probably the only way we can help these people from getting into the mess they do and make them understand that education is not an entitlement for all, just for those who can afford it. Personally i would refuse anybody a university education if they fail to understand the use of an apostrophe in shortened words such as they're . You see theyre the problem, theyre so far up their own arse theyre blind to there own stupid view of modern life. I'm off to cash in my trust fund.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:11:14 GMT
Attachment DeletedA lack of understanding in the usage of punctuation is the cause of all our problems .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:24:39 GMT
You see the problem is too many of them think theyre entitled to go to university, just like too many think theyre entitled to a top job when they graduate. Theyre not. If only they were as good as you there wouldn't be a problem, i see that now. Perhaps they should introduce some kind of criteria before they get accepted, you know like have a certain amount of A levels or something. Either that or maybe they should only be accepted if they can prove they have the ability to pay, perhaps check if their parents can afford beforehand. It's probably the only way we can help these people from getting into the mess they do and make them understand that education is not an entitlement for all, just for those who can afford it. Personally i would refuse anybody a university education if they fail to understand the use of an apostrophe in shortened words such as they're . You see theyre the problem, theyre so far up their own arse theyre blind to there own stupid view of modern life. I'm off to cash in my trust fund. Ooh it winds me up when clever clogs struggle to put their full stops in the right places
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:32:24 GMT
If only they were as good as you there wouldn't be a problem, i see that now. Perhaps they should introduce some kind of criteria before they get accepted, you know like have a certain amount of A levels or something. Either that or maybe they should only be accepted if they can prove they have the ability to pay, perhaps check if their parents can afford beforehand. It's probably the only way we can help these people from getting into the mess they do and make them understand that education is not an entitlement for all, just for those who can afford it. Personally i would refuse anybody a university education if they fail to understand the use of an apostrophe in shortened words such as they're . You see theyre the problem, theyre so far up their own arse theyre blind to there own stupid view of modern life. I'm off to cash in my trust fund. Ooh it winds me up when clever clogs struggle to put their full stops in the right places You are such a nit picker mate
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 17:35:53 GMT
If only they were as good as you there wouldn't be a problem, i see that now. Perhaps they should introduce some kind of criteria before they get accepted, you know like have a certain amount of A levels or something. Either that or maybe they should only be accepted if they can prove they have the ability to pay, perhaps check if their parents can afford beforehand. It's probably the only way we can help these people from getting into the mess they do and make them understand that education is not an entitlement for all, just for those who can afford it. Personally i would refuse anybody a university education if they fail to understand the use of an apostrophe in shortened words such as they're . You see theyre the problem, theyre so far up their own arse theyre blind to there own stupid view of modern life. I'm off to cash in my trust fund. Ooh it winds me up when clever clogs struggle to put their full stops in the right places Thats why i never applied to go univercity . Best 2 day's of my life school wer.e
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2015 19:16:44 GMT
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jan 29, 2015 19:26:12 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2015 19:46:01 GMT
I gave up on your link when I realised all he was prattling on about was more austerity.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jan 29, 2015 19:56:36 GMT
I gave up on your link when I realised all he was prattling on about was more austerity. Borrowing £100 BILLION a year still. Still spending about 10% more than we earn. For all this talk of austerity the deficit hasn't even been cut by a half yet. Thats before we start paying down the debt. No country or business or even household can go on like that forever. Do you spend 10% more than you earn every month. Course you don't as (and I hesitate to say this) you have more sense. Why then is it Ok for the country to carry on spending beyond it's means and saddling our children and grandchildren with our debt. It's morally wrong. If we're not going to live within our means when the economy is actually growing (now) then when are we? If anyone thinks the greens or Ed fucking Balls has the answer then they're wrong.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 29, 2015 20:19:09 GMT
I gave up on your link when I realised all he was prattling on about was more austerity. Borrowing £100 BILLION a year still. Still spending about 10% more than we earn. For all this talk of austerity the deficit hasn't even been cut by a half yet. Thats before we start paying down the debt. No country or business or even household can go on like that forever. Do you spend 10% more than you earn every month. Course you don't as (and I hesitate to say this) you have more sense. Why then is it Ok for the country to carry on spending beyond it's means and saddling our children and grandchildren with our debt. It's morally wrong. If we're not going to live within our means when the economy is actually growing (now) then when are we? If anyone thinks the greens or Ed fucking Balls has the answer then they're wrong. We will find out soon enough though when balls is running the economy in May
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 20:25:30 GMT
I think that's the point boothen. The austerity is a con, cutting the deficit is a con. The poorest in the community are taking the biggest hit of these cuts while the super rich continue to get even richer. It's all a con, designed to divert the attention away from the same people who caused the 2008 crash and blame it all on public spending.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jan 29, 2015 20:38:30 GMT
I think that's the point boothen. The austerity is a con, cutting the deficit is a con. The poorest in the community are taking the biggest hit of these cuts while the super rich continue to get even richer. It's all a con, designed to divert the attention away from the same people who caused the 2008 crash and blame it all on public spending. I can agree with that to a point, although to be fair I think the £10k tax threshold has helped the poorest working people. Are there a single main party though thats going to do anything thats really different from the others. As the article I quoted says, the differences between the 3 on housing or the NHS or even taxation are that samll to be of no difference at all. Why didn't 1 of them say instead of QE lets use the money to build half a million new homes. Why doesn't one of them say for example anyone using a hospital has to pay £10, the cost is that small it'd be no problem to pay but would stop a lot of the time wasters. Why doesn't any of them want to get us out of the EU (theres £50 billion saved straight away). Why do none of them have an answer for the million workshy wasters. We can all carry on voting for these useless parasites or we can make a stand. If a significant number of us voted elsewhere i.e UKIP, then perhaps they'll wake up and start doing their jobs.
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Post by kinetic on Jan 29, 2015 20:40:04 GMT
I think that's the point boothen. The austerity is a con, cutting the deficit is a con. The poorest in the community are taking the biggest hit of these cuts while the super rich continue to get even richer. It's all a con, designed to divert the attention away from the same people who caused the 2008 crash and blame it all on public spending. Not to mention Quantitative easing. What a con that was sold to use as £2500 in every UK citizens pocket. Turns out only a 3rd of it went to the public the rest is sitting in hedge funds bank accounts. The people who caused the fuck up in the fost place. Great Britain PLC has always run with a debt ever since getting rid of the gold standard or fall of empire what ever way you want look at it. Never been a problem for the last 70yrs then over night almost we need cut it ?? Just made up numbers on a computer screen. Would have been better to devalue the pound but shit best not do that. cause then the rich would be loosing their wealth. Think its only Germany that doesn't run at a lose out of the western countries, There's a reason for that but I have be at work for 9 so some other time.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2015 20:40:26 GMT
I gave up on your link when I realised all he was prattling on about was more austerity. Borrowing £100 BILLION a year still. Still spending about 10% more than we earn. For all this talk of austerity the deficit hasn't even been cut by a half yet. Thats before we start paying down the debt. No country or business or even household can go on like that forever. Do you spend 10% more than you earn every month. Course you don't as (and I hesitate to say this) you have more sense. Why then is it Ok for the country to carry on spending beyond it's means and saddling our children and grandchildren with our debt. It's morally wrong. If we're not going to live within our means when the economy is actually growing (now) then when are we? If anyone thinks the greens or Ed fucking Balls has the answer then they're wrong. Ahhh the old "living within our means" line Keeps us squabbling amongst ourselves while they shaft us even more.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2015 20:44:11 GMT
I think that's the point boothen. The austerity is a con, cutting the deficit is a con. The poorest in the community are taking the biggest hit of these cuts while the super rich continue to get even richer. It's all a con, designed to divert the attention away from the same people who caused the 2008 crash and blame it all on public spending. Not to mention Quantitative easing. What a con that was sold to use as £2500 in every UK citizens pocket. Turns out on a 3rd of it went to the public the rest is sitting in hedge funds bank accounts. The people who caused the fuck up in the fost place. Great Britain PLC has always run with a debt ever since getting rid of the gold standard or fall of empire what ever way you want look at it. Never been a problem for the last 70yrs then over night almost we need cut it ?? Just made up numbers on a computer screen. Would have been better to devalue the pound but shit best not do that. cause then the rich would be loosing their wealth. Think its only Germany that doesn't run at a lose out of the western countries, There's a reason for that but I have be at work for 9 so some other time. Eminent economists agree that QE has failed, in fact if the money had been used to put £24,000 in the bank accounts of every household in the UK for them to do as they wish it would have had a far more positive effect on growth.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Jan 29, 2015 21:05:07 GMT
I gave up on your link when I realised all he was prattling on about was more austerity. Borrowing £100 BILLION a year still. Still spending about 10% more than we earn. For all this talk of austerity the deficit hasn't even been cut by a half yet. Thats before we start paying down the debt. No country or business or even household can go on like that forever. Do you spend 10% more than you earn every month. Course you don't as (and I hesitate to say this) you have more sense. Why then is it Ok for the country to carry on spending beyond it's means and saddling our children and grandchildren with our debt. It's morally wrong. If we're not going to live within our means when the economy is actually growing (now) then when are we? If anyone thinks the greens or Ed fucking Balls has the answer then they're wrong. [ ,“We used to think that you could spend your way out of a recession and increase employment by cutting taxes and boosting government spending. I tell you in all candour that that option no longer exists....” That was James Callaghan in 1976. He Sussed it out nearly 40 years ago.
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Post by kbillyh on Jan 29, 2015 21:40:23 GMT
Can i ask you Boothen why you think Ukip are the answer?
I don't understand your loyalty and faith, to me they are just an extension of the Conservative party. I have no doubt they will dance to the corporate tune just as the main 3 parties are at the moment.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jan 29, 2015 22:10:15 GMT
Can i ask you Boothen why you think Ukip are the answer? I don't understand your loyalty and faith, to me they are just an extension of the Conservative party. I have no doubt they will dance to the corporate tune just as the main 3 parties are at the moment. I agree with UKIP's policies on Europe & immigration. As I've said on previous threads uncontrolled immigration has been nothing short of a disaster for every working man & woman in this country. Leaving that aside lets look at the alternatives: Labour- Tony Blair & his phony wars, Gordon end of boom & bust Brown, Ed stab my brother in the back Miliband and Ed shyster Balls. These days they just look like a bunch of snivelling tory wannabes. They have no answers for anything & seem to me, to be the party for the feckless & reckless; Lib Dems- Nick Clegg just reminds me of a used car salesman. He had the opportunity to make his mark after the election and has royally fucked it up. Torys- Out of the 3 main parties I suppose these are (amazingly) the least bad. If they could do what they were doing with slightly more compassion & a bit more radicalism and get rid of that two faced lying tosser Cameron, then that wouldn't be too bad. Greens- just deluded. So who else is there to vote for? Vote for the party who will protect our borders, who want to return powers to our elected parliament and who will hopefully show the other main parties up for the useless tossers that they are. Maybe they will turn out to "dance to the corporate tune", but 1 things for sure a vote for the other parties is a vote for the status quo. And who wants that?
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