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Post by bignickhowes on Jan 25, 2015 20:18:48 GMT
i would say Jordan Henderson but I'm not sure if he's rated anyway! I was at Villa Liverpool last week and its not saying a lot but he was quality
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 25, 2015 21:19:28 GMT
Mario Balotelli, utter fucking wank. This for me
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:23:15 GMT
Mario Balotelli, utter fucking wank. This for me Agreed 100%
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 25, 2015 21:27:02 GMT
Wayne Rooney
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:31:54 GMT
Wayne Rooney You can't have that one. Rooney is going to finish his career as Man utd's and England's all time top goalscorer. Have another go
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:40:36 GMT
Wayne Rooney You can't have that one. Rooney is going to finish his career as Man utd's and England's all time top goalscorer. Have another go Hold on, I think rooney is overrated. He is still a good player, very good, but when I see him in an advert with Messi and Ronaldo, I think he is not in their league.....overrated oh yes.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 25, 2015 21:41:02 GMT
Wayne Rooney You can't have that one. Rooney is going to finish his career as Man utd's and England's all time top goalscorer. Have another go Funny that as whenever he,s been on the world stage ie in a tournament he,s always looked way out of his depth to me.How many world cup goals has he scored? I believe sturridge equalled his tally in one game against italy.Anyway whatever gives you a boner
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Post by padders01 on Jan 25, 2015 21:42:30 GMT
Chris Smalling and Mario Fucking Bibotelli
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 25, 2015 21:43:50 GMT
Livermore Caulker Cahill Smalling Hart
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 25, 2015 21:46:32 GMT
Paul Konchesky.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:47:24 GMT
You can't have that one. Rooney is going to finish his career as Man utd's and England's all time top goalscorer. Have another go Hold on, I think rooney is overrated. He is still a good player, very good, but when I see him in an advert with Messi and Ronaldo, I think he is not in their league.....overrated oh yes. No footballers in the modern game come anywhere near to Messi and Ronaldo though do they? I haven't seen the advert in question but are there other footballers in it? In my opinion a lot of fans slag Rooney off because they don't like him for various reasons,all of which make him a hard person to like. If you look at his career though it has been a massive success story, and I personally do not see how a player who will hold the records he will when he retires can be classed as overrated. Take away the two finest players in today's game,who are freakishly good,and in a total league of their own,and Rooneys record stands up against the majority of footballers in the world game today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:49:02 GMT
Hold on, I think rooney is overrated. He is still a good player, very good, but when I see him in an advert with Messi and Ronaldo, I think he is not in their league.....overrated oh yes. Well argued
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:55:56 GMT
You can't have that one. Rooney is going to finish his career as Man utd's and England's all time top goalscorer. Have another go Funny that as whenever he,s been on the world stage ie in a tournament he,s always looked way out of his depth to me.How many world cup goals has he scored? I believe sturridge equalled his tally in one game against italy.Anyway whatever gives you a boner  I could,if I could be arsed,name you an absolute shit load of top quality footballers who haven't scored many World cup goals. Your argument is flawed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:56:41 GMT
Jordan Henderson
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 25, 2015 21:59:42 GMT
Funny that as whenever he,s been on the world stage ie in a tournament he,s always looked way out of his depth to me.How many world cup goals has he scored? I believe sturridge equalled his tally in one game against italy.Anyway whatever gives you a boner I could,if I could be arsed,name you an absolute shit load of top quality footballers who haven't scored many World cup goals. Your argument is flawed. Sorry mate ,top quality footballers score goals at any level,rooney cant even get a start in his favoured position at his own club because they have better options in van persie and falcao!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:03:38 GMT
I could,if I could be arsed,name you an absolute shit load of top quality footballers who haven't scored many World cup goals. Your argument is flawed. Sorry mate ,top quality footballers score goals at any level,rooney cant even get a start in his favoured position at his own club because they have better options in van persie and falcao! So are you now suggesting that Rooney isn't a top quality footballer? As far as I know Rooney is still a regular for Utd and their captain isn't he???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:04:23 GMT
Hold on, I think rooney is overrated. He is still a good player, very good, but when I see him in an advert with Messi and Ronaldo, I think he is not in their league.....overrated oh yes. No footballers in the modern game come anywhere near to Messi and Ronaldo though do they? I haven't seen the advert in question but are there other footballers in it? In my opinion a lot of fans slag Rooney off because they don't like him for various reasons,all of which make him a hard person to like. If you look at his career though it has been a massive success story, and I personally do not see how a player who will hold the records he will when he retires can be classed as overrated. Take away the two finest players in today's game,who are freakishly good,and in a total league of their own,and Rooneys record stands up against the majority of footballers in the world game today. I think it was a nike advert from the World Cup, good player but not one of the very best, if I was picking a dream team of modern footballers, he would not be in the team.
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Post by hudsonsbeerglass on Jan 25, 2015 22:08:25 GMT
Got to be Smalling,Jones,and Chambers for me,plus Gerrard should retire
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:08:53 GMT
No footballers in the modern game come anywhere near to Messi and Ronaldo though do they? I haven't seen the advert in question but are there other footballers in it? In my opinion a lot of fans slag Rooney off because they don't like him for various reasons,all of which make him a hard person to like. If you look at his career though it has been a massive success story, and I personally do not see how a player who will hold the records he will when he retires can be classed as overrated. Take away the two finest players in today's game,who are freakishly good,and in a total league of their own,and Rooneys record stands up against the majority of footballers in the world game today. I think it was a nike advert from the World Cup, good player but not one of the very best, if I was picking a dream team of modern footballers, he would not be in the team. He probably wouldn't be in mine either but he would be on the bench That's not to say that he isn't a top quality footballer though.
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 25, 2015 22:11:59 GMT
I could,if I could be arsed,name you an absolute shit load of top quality footballers who haven't scored many World cup goals. Your argument is flawed. Sorry mate ,top quality footballers score goals at any level,rooney cant even get a start in his favoured position at his own club because they have better options in van persie and falcao! S the reason Rooney has changed position is because out of the players you mentioned he is the only one with the talent to do so , probably means if anything he is a victim of his talent
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 25, 2015 22:18:53 GMT
Sorry mate ,top quality footballers score goals at any level,rooney cant even get a start in his favoured position at his own club because they have better options in van persie and falcao! S the reason Rooney has changed position is because out of the players you mentioned he is the only one with the talent to do so , probably means if anything he is a victim of his talent If you enable someone like rooney to blackmail you into giving him 300 grand a week,i suppose you would have to find a place in the side somewhere for him!
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 25, 2015 22:27:15 GMT
S the reason Rooney has changed position is because out of the players you mentioned he is the only one with the talent to do so , probably means if anything he is a victim of his talent If you enable someone like rooney to blackmail you into giving him 300 grand a week,i suppose you would have to find a place in the side somewhere for him! The pay isn't the issue , Rooney is a very talented footballer is the point who can play well up top , on the wing , or midfield . He played midfield at the Brit 2 seasons ago and was outstanding
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Post by Veritas on Jan 25, 2015 22:30:58 GMT
Gerrard, no Scholes not even a Souness, Golden Generation my ars........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:31:46 GMT
I think it was a nike advert from the World Cup, good player but not one of the very best, if I was picking a dream team of modern footballers, he would not be in the team. He probably wouldn't be in mine either but he would be on the bench That's not to say that he isn't a top quality footballer though. I'm not saying he isn't a very good player (again) but as you agreed he isn't one of the very best and that is what he is made out to be. So overrated is a correct, glad we agree.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Jan 25, 2015 22:35:49 GMT
Gary Cahill.
Wouldn't swap him for Texiera right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:35:57 GMT
He probably wouldn't be in mine either but he would be on the bench That's not to say that he isn't a top quality footballer though. I'm not saying he isn't a very good player (again) but as you agreed he isn't one of the very best and that is what he is made out to be. So overrated is a correct, glad we agree. Outside of the two best forwards in the world he is right up there with the rest as I have already stated. His record at the highest level of football stands up to the rest. My original point still stands,a player who has had the career that Rooney has had cannot be classed as overrated.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Jan 25, 2015 22:38:13 GMT
I'm not saying he isn't a very good player (again) but as you agreed he isn't one of the very best and that is what he is made out to be. So overrated is a correct, glad we agree. Outside of the two best forwards in the world he is right up there with the rest as I have already stated. His record at the highest level of football stands up to the rest. My original point still stands,a player who has had the career that Rooney has had cannot be classed as overrated. Silly argument. Of course he can.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:40:40 GMT
Outside of the two best forwards in the world he is right up there with the rest as I have already stated. His record at the highest level of football stands up to the rest. My original point still stands,a player who has had the career that Rooney has had cannot be classed as overrated. Silly argument. Of course he can. Ok fair enough but only if people talk about him as the very best player in the world,but as far as I'm aware nobody does? Rooney is definitely good enough to be amongst the best of the rest so in my opinion isn't overrated.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Jan 25, 2015 22:40:41 GMT
Arron Ramsey got to be up there , this time last year you would of thought he was a absolute world beater but in all honesty he goes missing in games he doesn't fancy !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 22:41:33 GMT
I'm not saying he isn't a very good player (again) but as you agreed he isn't one of the very best and that is what he is made out to be. So overrated is a correct, glad we agree. Outside of the two best forwards in the world he is right up there with the rest as I have already stated. His record at the highest level of football stands up to the rest. My original point still stands,a player who has had the career that Rooney has had cannot be classed as overrated. But YOU wouldn't have him in your dream team ?
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