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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2015 20:42:31 GMT
He'd end up at Spurs, Liverpool or someone like that. Yeah I'll give you and CD Liverpool as well. Chelsea? No Citeh? No Saints? Maybe but they're happy with Pelle Man Utd? No Spurs? Massive yes Arsenal? No Liverpool? Yes Everton? Lukaku West Ham? Carroll Swansea? As attractive as we are I'd say that (wrongly) Swansea would be seen as a bigger attraction. And Villa are in the shit but they're a much bigger club than we are. I just couldn't see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 20:42:50 GMT
I keep banging on about it but the time to buy those players is when they are just below the radar. Villa did it originally with 7M. Decent price for a 21 year old, at the time. Loads in the tank and loads of sell on value should you need it. Ditto, Swansea with Bony. Where are our scouts and what are they up to? Our scouts seem to be doing pretty goddam alright if you ask me yes, before we signed Inter Milans Marko Arnoutovic, Diouf (former Man United), Bardsley, Holland International Erik Pieters, Steve Sidwell, Victor Moses, and Barcelona's greatest ever youth team Player Bojan, I'd never heard of those players.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 20:42:56 GMT
Shaqiri was never coming here though was he? It was as likely as Craig Bellamy coming here when we had Gifton up front. It just doesn't happen. Again, we'd have to match or better his wages as well. No he wasn't but it was very strange that Bowen endorsed it don't you think? Wasn't for shits and gigs, there was definitely some ulterior motive. Benteke isn't on the same scale as Shaqiri, the fact that Dave the Rave doesn't rate him above possibly shows what an injury hit year can do to your star? He's still their star man and their hopes for the season are tied to him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 20:44:39 GMT
I keep banging on about it but the time to buy those players is when they are just below the radar. Villa did it originally with 7M. Decent price for a 21 year old, at the time. Loads in the tank and loads of sell on value should you need it. Ditto, Swansea with Bony. Where are our scouts and what are they up to? Our scouts seem to be doing pretty goddam alright if you ask me yes, before we signed Inter Milans Marko Arnoutovic, Diouf (former Man United), Bardsley, Holland International Erik Pieters, Steve Sidwell, Victor Moses, and Barcelona's greatest ever youth team Player Bojan, I'd never heard of those players.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 17, 2015 20:44:59 GMT
Don't think he will come but do think he would be a good fit
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 20:46:32 GMT
No he wasn't but it was very strange that Bowen endorsed it don't you think? Wasn't for shits and gigs, there was definitely some ulterior motive. Benteke isn't on the same scale as Shaqiri, the fact that Dave the Rave doesn't rate him above possibly shows what an injury hit year can do to your star? He's still their star man and their hopes for the season are tied to him. Fan protests, the club up for sale, Lambert looking more and more lost. They're in serious danger of going down and Benteke must see it. He's doing himself no favours by staying at a club where they don't create chances. Villa would be mental to sell him, kind of like Spurs were mental to lose Begovic to us and Man Utd to sell Ryan for £1.2m. Mental things happen. I know our record fee is only £10m but I'd be happy for us to smash that for this kind of player
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 20:47:58 GMT
He's still their star man and their hopes for the season are tied to him. Fan protests, the club up for sale, Lambert looking more and more lost. They're in serious danger of going down and Benteke must see it. He's doing himself no favours by staying at a club where they don't create chances. Villa would be mental to sell him, kind of like Spurs were mental to lose Begovic to us and Man Utd to sell Ryan for £1.2m. Mental things happen. I know our record fee is only £10m but I'd be happy for us to smash that for this kind of player I dare say he does want to leave. Neither of those situations are remotely the same as this one.
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Jan 17, 2015 20:49:23 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 20:49:23 GMT
Fan protests, the club up for sale, Lambert looking more and more lost. They're in serious danger of going down and Benteke must see it. He's doing himself no favours by staying at a club where they don't create chances. Villa would be mental to sell him, kind of like Spurs were mental to lose Begovic to us and Man Utd to sell Ryan for £1.2m. Mental things happen. I know our record fee is only £10m but I'd be happy for us to smash that for this kind of player I dare say he does want to leave. Neither of those situations are remotely the same as this one. How about the madness of RVP to Man Utd? That wasn't a million miles off
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 20:50:26 GMT
I dare say he does want to leave. Neither of those situations are remotely the same as this one. How about the madness of RVP to Man Utd? That wasn't a million miles off He went to a bigger club, made it clear he wanted to go and was out of contract.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 20:54:02 GMT
How about the madness of RVP to Man Utd? That wasn't a million miles off He went to a bigger club, made it clear he wanted to go and was out of contract. Ran his contract and made it clear he wanted to go once Man Utd expressed their interest. Now I'm not saying we could turn Benteke's head like Man Utd turned RVP's but we'd be of mild interest
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 20:54:47 GMT
He went to a bigger club, made it clear he wanted to go and was out of contract. Ran his contract and made it clear he wanted to go once Man Utd expressed their interest. Now I'm not saying we could turn Benteke's head like Man Utd turned RVP's but we'd be of mild interest I disagree. Again it's not the same situation.
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Post by viewfrominside on Jan 17, 2015 20:55:52 GMT
I'd happily do without any other signings this January and in the summer other than Benteke if we could do it, be a difficult one to pull off though you would think if we were to have a go
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 17, 2015 21:20:59 GMT
If ever we'll get a chance to sign him it must be now? The perfect player for us I think!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:35:03 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 21:38:17 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning. What were your thoughts on Bojan in the summer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:39:10 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning. What were your thoughts on Bojan in the summer? Massive difference. Now where's that straight jacket.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 21:39:11 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning. What were your thoughts on Bojan in the summer? Not. The same. Thing!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:41:14 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning. He's just a little bit expensive. It's still good, it's still good.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 21:43:35 GMT
What were your thoughts on Bojan in the summer? Not. The same. Thing! I'm not making out that Benteke would love to come to Stoke. I'm sure he's set his sights far higher! Ok, what were your thoughts on West Ham landing Tevez? If you don't try you don't get!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 21:47:01 GMT
I'm not making out that Benteke would love to come to Stoke. I'm sure he's set his sights far higher! Ok, what were your thoughts on West Ham landing Tevez? If you don't try you don't get! The Tevez deal was as dodgy as sin and he was playing in an inferior league. Bojan's stock had fallen massively. This is a team's star player in the same division.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 17, 2015 21:50:43 GMT
I'm not making out that Benteke would love to come to Stoke. I'm sure he's set his sights far higher! Ok, what were your thoughts on West Ham landing Tevez? If you don't try you don't get! The Tevez deal was as dodgy as sin and he was playing in an inferior league. Bojan's stock had fallen massively. This is a team's star player in the same division. I'm not disputing that he's their star man, what I'm saying is that with Lerner wanting to get his money back and Villa regressing at a rate of knots Benteke may be open to the move with a reasonable buy out clause in his contract. It'd be a 20/1 shot him coming to us but if you don't shoot you don't score.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 17, 2015 22:01:59 GMT
Just to clarify. Anybody who believes that we could sign Benteke needs sectioning. Who would have thought a couple of seasons ago that Bojan would play for Stoke!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 17, 2015 23:55:37 GMT
The Tevez deal was as dodgy as sin and he was playing in an inferior league. Bojan's stock had fallen massively. This is a team's star player in the same division. I'm not disputing that he's their star man, what I'm saying is that with Lerner wanting to get his money back and Villa regressing at a rate of knots Benteke may be open to the move with a reasonable buy out clause in his contract. It'd be a 20/1 shot him coming to us but if you don't shoot you don't score. Benteke moving isn't out of the question. Him moving here is cloud cuckoo land stuff. That kind of move just doesn't happen anymore in England.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 18, 2015 5:43:48 GMT
I'm not disputing that he's their star man, what I'm saying is that with Lerner wanting to get his money back and Villa regressing at a rate of knots Benteke may be open to the move with a reasonable buy out clause in his contract. It'd be a 20/1 shot him coming to us but if you don't shoot you don't score. Benteke moving isn't out of the question. Him moving here is cloud cuckoo land stuff. That kind of move just doesn't happen anymore in England. You may be right, so that limits us to cheaper foreign imports or the likes of Rhodes and Gayle. Wasn't Benteke linked to Arsenal at one time?
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Post by hartzchoco on Jan 18, 2015 5:55:31 GMT
Fuck it, I'm gonna keep saying it. Fabio Borini.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 18, 2015 8:51:26 GMT
Benteke moving isn't out of the question. Him moving here is cloud cuckoo land stuff. That kind of move just doesn't happen anymore in England. You may be right, so that limits us to cheaper foreign imports or the likes of Rhodes and Gayle. Wasn't Benteke linked to Arsenal at one time? Spurs certainly. Yeah it limits us to shopping abroad, or lower down the table, or going for players at bigger clubs who aren't getting a game.
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2015 8:58:56 GMT
Surely Stoke will not be spending £20m+ on one player?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 18, 2015 9:01:57 GMT
Surely Stoke will not be spending £20m+ on one player? You wouldn't have thought so.
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Post by roberthuth4 on Jan 18, 2015 9:28:30 GMT
Benteke and moses would be 2 absolutely fucking brilliant signings
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Post by upthefud on Jan 18, 2015 9:35:49 GMT
Surely Stoke will not be spending £20m+ on one player? £18m for Palacios and Crouch. I think if we found the right player at the right age to push us on, and we negotiated the fee suitably with break downs such as appearance fees, international caps ect then it's not out of the question anymore. I honestly think we're one of the most ambitious clubs around at the moment. Coates wants to leave a legacy (not that he hasn't already)
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