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Post by slpmarc on Dec 15, 2014 8:07:10 GMT
Can I just defend Shea, when he came to Stoke he was brought on the assumption he could not play till the following season due to his injury been far from healed. Pulis was not one for been told anything and played him despite all medical experts saying he was unfit and could so more damage, as Shea was the first player brought in under the power of Carts and was not all his own scouting work he did everything to hinder the progress of the player as away if saying to the club, you can bring in all you want without my say so but I still get the say on if they play or not
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2014 8:13:46 GMT
Can I just defend Shea, when he came to Stoke he was brought on the assumption he could not play till the following season due to his injury been far from healed. Pulis was not one for been told anything and played him despite all medical experts saying he was unfit and could so more damage, as Shea was the first player brought in under the power of Carts and was not all his own scouting work he did everything to hinder the progress of the player as away if saying to the club, you can bring in all you want without my say so but I still get the say on if they play or not Pulis has publicly stated that he had the final say in all transfers whilst in his second stint as Stoke manager, why would he lie after he had left the club, he went to London to represent Shea at the hearing regarding his permit, I really don't get this he wan't a Pulis signing bollocks at all, Shea was a wank signing end of non league standard possibly. |
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Post by tazi on Dec 15, 2014 8:16:08 GMT
Maybe Ireland could go too.
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Post by slpmarc on Dec 15, 2014 8:39:23 GMT
Can I just defend Shea, when he came to Stoke he was brought on the assumption he could not play till the following season due to his injury been far from healed. Pulis was not one for been told anything and played him despite all medical experts saying he was unfit and could so more damage, as Shea was the first player brought in under the power of Carts and was not all his own scouting work he did everything to hinder the progress of the player as away if saying to the club, you can bring in all you want without my say so but I still get the say on if they play or not Pulis has publicly stated that he had the final say in all transfers whilst in his second stint as Stoke manager, why would he lie after he had left the club, he went to London to represent Shea at the hearing regarding his permit, I really don't get this he wan't a Pulis signing bollocks at all, Shea was a wank signing end of non league standard possibly. Pulis would never admit he was not I full control, if he was in full control then why appoint Cartwright. He went to the hearing to show willing as it was Peter who told him that we were having a technical director whether he liked it or not. I know what I have been told and believe who has told me |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 15, 2014 8:51:57 GMT
Absolutely stolen a living as footballer. Nothing to like about the fact he has picked up millions in earnings from our beloved club despite looking and playing like an antelope.
I hope he shoots a bollock off playing with his guns and never manages to reproduce his useless Texan genes
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 15, 2014 9:50:48 GMT
Absolutely stolen a living as footballer. Nothing to like about the fact he has picked up millions in earnings from our beloved club despite looking and playing like an antelope. I hope he shoots a bollock off playing with his guns and never manages to reproduce his useless Texan genes
Way, way too harsh. Hardly his fault. He's wank at football and we were willing to pay him, what, £10-15K a week. He was hardly going to turn it down.
Also shone through in his role in Pig-gate too.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 10:00:00 GMT
Can I just defend Shea, when he came to Stoke he was brought on the assumption he could not play till the following season due to his injury been far from healed. Pulis was not one for been told anything and played him despite all medical experts saying he was unfit and could so more damage, as Shea was the first player brought in under the power of Carts and was not all his own scouting work he did everything to hinder the progress of the player as away if saying to the club, you can bring in all you want without my say so but I still get the say on if they play or not That doesn't explain why he tanked at Barnsley and Brum though Marc. Or why he showed literally nothing in his appearances under Hughes. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 10:00:28 GMT
Can I just defend Shea, when he came to Stoke he was brought on the assumption he could not play till the following season due to his injury been far from healed. Pulis was not one for been told anything and played him despite all medical experts saying he was unfit and could so more damage, as Shea was the first player brought in under the power of Carts and was not all his own scouting work he did everything to hinder the progress of the player as away if saying to the club, you can bring in all you want without my say so but I still get the say on if they play or not Pulis has publicly stated that he had the final say in all transfers whilst in his second stint as Stoke manager, why would he lie after he had left the club, he went to London to represent Shea at the hearing regarding his permit, I really don't get this he wan't a Pulis signing bollocks at all, Shea was a wank signing end of non league standard possibly. I think it's pretty clear he wasn't a Pulis signing. |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Dec 15, 2014 10:21:37 GMT
Some of the comments on this thread are embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 10:22:48 GMT
Brek Shea....he's going be a megastar any minute....honestly.....aannny minute now......
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2014 12:05:19 GMT
Pulis has publicly stated that he had the final say in all transfers whilst in his second stint as Stoke manager, why would he lie after he had left the club, he went to London to represent Shea at the hearing regarding his permit, I really don't get this he wan't a Pulis signing bollocks at all, Shea was a wank signing end of non league standard possibly. Pulis would never admit he was not I full control, if he was in full control then why appoint Cartwright. He went to the hearing to show willing as it was Peter who told him that we were having a technical director whether he liked it or not. I know what I have been told and believe who has told me Pulis did not state this until he was no longer at the club, he had no reason to lie still do not buy this excuse, massive bollock dropped. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2014 12:06:48 GMT
Pulis has publicly stated that he had the final say in all transfers whilst in his second stint as Stoke manager, why would he lie after he had left the club, he went to London to represent Shea at the hearing regarding his permit, I really don't get this he wan't a Pulis signing bollocks at all, Shea was a wank signing end of non league standard possibly. I think it's pretty clear he wasn't a Pulis signing. Not according to Pulis unless of course he is a liar. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 12:08:04 GMT
He's as far removed from a Pulis player as it gets. No experience, young, from overseas.
The fact that TP could barely remember his name was a bit of a giveaway as well.
Never in this world was he a Tone buy.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 12:09:22 GMT
I think it's pretty clear he wasn't a Pulis signing. Not according to Pulis unless of course he is a liar. I don't think it's that black and white and I don't think there's a manager in football who's always been 100% honest and truthful at all times. |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 15, 2014 12:14:24 GMT
Not a great signing by any stretch of the imagination but the finger really needs to be pointed at the person(s) who scouted and signed more so than the player himself. If he wasn't fit and didn't have the right ability to succeed here its hardly the players fault. People might point to pig gate and the whole episode with the guns as signs of the player not applying himself again I can kind of agree with the stupidity of both episodes but footballers are hardly known as an intelligent bunch and these sorts of things are bore from young lads who are paid way too much for too little work. He had the opportunity to showcase his ability during two different loan spells and failed now if it wasn't ability related as to why he failed then only the player can be blamed for that.
Anyway hopefully Brek can go on and resurrect his career at 'his' level and I for one wish him well. He did disappoint but only because I was hoping he was a better player than he perhaps is.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2014 12:24:01 GMT
He's as far removed from a Pulis player as it gets. No experience, young, from overseas. The fact that TP could barely remember his name was a bit of a giveaway as well. Never in this world was he a Tone buy. I see where you are coming from, how do you explain the signings of Edu and Ness  |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 15, 2014 12:35:50 GMT
Good luck to him, shame he didn't really get much of a chance here. This added to it that he just possibly isn't good enough, although how anyone could make any judgement on his ability is beyond me as we've probably seen 20 minutes of him in a Stoke shirt. Gouranga.  |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2014 12:47:00 GMT
Good luck to him, shame he didn't really get much of a chance here. This added to it that he just possibly isn't good enough, although how anyone could make any judgement on his ability is beyond me as we've probably seen 2o minutes of him in a Stoke shirt. Gouranga. True enough though I think it is safe to say Barnsley & Birmingham did, enough said about that the better. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 14:37:06 GMT
Good luck to him, shame he didn't really get much of a chance here. This added to it that he just possibly isn't good enough, although how anyone could make any judgement on his ability is beyond me as we've probably seen 20 minutes of him in a Stoke shirt. Gouranga. I think we've seen enough. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 14:59:19 GMT
He's as far removed from a Pulis player as it gets. No experience, young, from overseas. The fact that TP could barely remember his name was a bit of a giveaway as well. Never in this world was he a Tone buy. I see where you are coming from, how do you explain the signings of Edu and Ness Edu was every inch a Pulis buy, clogging defensive mid. Ness is a strange one, assume he was signed because of the rule change on home grown players or something? |
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Post by beatlestokie on Dec 15, 2014 15:23:00 GMT
This added to it that he just possibly isn't good enough, although how anyone could make any judgement on his ability is beyond me as we've probably seen 2o minutes of him in a Stoke shirt. Gouranga. True enough though I think it is safe to say Barnsley & Birmingham did, enough said about that the better. Talking to a brum fan earlyer and he was teling me how crap he really is, he couldn't believe we paid 2 mill for him. |
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Post by robstokie on Dec 15, 2014 15:24:56 GMT
I'm always an optimist with most of our players and try to see their strengths or potential. However the're was absolutely nothing about Shea that suggested there was footballer in there. I agree with an earlier poster that for the money and size of contract he is the worst signing in the history of the club. To Be Fair, the Shea signing was always a bit of a gamble. The worst one of the lot was Maurice Fucking Edu, the mere fact he made a solitary sub appearance whilst conning a wage off us was scandalous. |
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Post by slash on Dec 15, 2014 15:35:14 GMT
Some of the comments on this thread are embarrassing. Fitting, as Shea was quite embarrassing as well. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2014 15:35:51 GMT
I see where you are coming from, how do you explain the signings of Edu and Ness Edu was every inch a Pulis buy, clogging defensive mid. Ness is a strange one, assume he was signed because of the rule change on home grown players or something?I don't understand your point. Ness doesn't count as home grown as he didn't spend any of his formative years in the jurisdiction of either the English or Welsh FAs. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 15, 2014 15:38:46 GMT
Edu was every inch a Pulis buy, clogging defensive mid. Ness is a strange one, assume he was signed because of the rule change on home grown players or something?I don't understand your point. Ness doesn't count as home grown as he didn't spend any of his formative years in the jurisdiction of either the English or Welsh FAs. Fair enough. Was just a theory as he was a most un-Pulis signing. |
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 15, 2014 15:59:53 GMT
Edu was at phillidelphia and is expected to go again on a perm deal in January Mo would look proper gangsta with a 'Shaft' style afro. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2014 17:03:44 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2014 17:03:49 GMT
Orlando have just signed some forward as a designated player (they get extra money I believe) so they have 2 now. Shea would have to be a designated player but I only thought MLS teams could have 2? It might be 3 but I aren't sure tbh! In short, what are the rules?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2014 17:06:22 GMT
Orlando have just signed some forward as a designated player (they get extra money I believe) so they have 2 now. Shea would have to be a designated player but I only thought MLS teams could have 2? It might be 3 but I aren't sure tbh! In short, what are the rules? They'll probably let Kaka go to make way for Brek!  |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 15, 2014 17:09:08 GMT
Orlando have just signed some forward as a designated player (they get extra money I believe) so they have 2 now. Shea would have to be a designated player but I only thought MLS teams could have 2? It might be 3 but I aren't sure tbh! In short, what are the rules? They'll probably let Kaka go to make way for Brek! Ha-ha Brek or Kaka as the main player. Thats a tough decision aint it |
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