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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 23, 2014 17:04:02 GMT
I didn't think Arnie was that bad yesterday actually, but we still don't create enough or clear cut enough chances!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:10:14 GMT
For me the issue with Arnie yesterday was the cast on his arm. I know football is played with your feet etc, but for some who is as tricky as he is, he needs all the balance you can get. Try twisting and turning with out being able to move your wrist. Difficult enough for us mere mortals, but for a pro footballer who relies on balance, a pretty thankless task.
Doesn't excuse some of his final balls mind, but as others have said, this is down to confidence.
I hope I'm wrong, but yesterday may have set him back a bit.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 17:23:56 GMT
Soldado has been dog shit for Spurs but the fans at Hull are chanting his name. We prefer to boo our players after 15 minutes and a couple of bad touches.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 17:28:26 GMT
Soldado has been dog shit for Spurs but the fans at Hull are chanting his name. We prefer to boo our players after 15 minutes and a couple of bad touches. Spurs are great fans aren't they, the players really appreciate them. What did Adebayor say last week?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 17:29:43 GMT
Soldado has been dog shit for Spurs but the fans at Hull are chanting his name. We prefer to boo our players after 15 minutes and a couple of bad touches. Spurs are great fans aren't they, the players really appreciate them. What did Adebayor say last week? You're going on what that mercenary no mark says? Give your head a wobble. No surprise you bit on that one.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 17:32:28 GMT
Spurs are great fans aren't they, the players really appreciate them. What did Adebayor say last week? You're going on what that mercenary no mark says? Â Give your head a wobble. No surprise you bit on that one. Wasn't just him though was it, pretty much every pundit picked up on it. If players put the effort on Stoke fans get behind them. See Andy Cooke for example.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 17:34:57 GMT
You're going on what that mercenary no mark says? Give your head a wobble. No surprise you bit on that one. Wasn't just him though was it, pretty much every pundit picked up on it. If players put the effort on Stoke fans get behind them. See Andy Cooke for example. Do they? Not sure they do to be honest.
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Post by desman2 on Nov 23, 2014 17:35:01 GMT
Did Arnie borrow pottermus's shorts yesterday. They were massive on him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:38:06 GMT
You're going on what that mercenary no mark says? Give your head a wobble. No surprise you bit on that one. Wasn't just him though was it, pretty much every pundit picked up on it. If players put the effort on Stoke fans get behind them. See Andy Cooke for example. Marko Arnautovic or Andy Cooke? Hmmm let me think.. I think I'd rather Arnautovic getting pelters for 90 minutes.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 17:39:53 GMT
Wasn't just him though was it, pretty much every pundit picked up on it. If players put the effort on Stoke fans get behind them. See Andy Cooke for example. Marko Arnautovic or Andy Cooke? Hmmm let me think.. I think I'd rather Arnautovic getting pelters for 90 minutes. That's not my point
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 17:41:51 GMT
Marko Arnautovic or Andy Cooke? Hmmm let me think.. I think I'd rather Arnautovic getting pelters for 90 minutes. That's not my point You're accusing our players of not trying. Another one making shit up to make themselves feel better. Really mate, just stop talking shit.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 17:43:10 GMT
You're accusing our players of not trying. Â Another one making shit up to make themselves feel better. Really mate, just stop talking shit. Lol When has a Stoke player ever criticised our crowd?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 17:46:11 GMT
You're accusing our players of not trying. Another one making shit up to make themselves feel better. Really mate, just stop talking shit. Lol When has a Stoke player ever criticised our crowd? You are siding with Adebayor ffs. Jesus hates Christ.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Nov 23, 2014 18:38:41 GMT
Touches of brilliance at times especially the way he brings the ball down out of the air, then a few bad mistakes. Crossing wasn't as bad as others are making out either probably 2 or 3 poor crosses. Often had the beating of his man, tried to make things happen. Looked better than he has.
As for Moses, great first impression then you realise how limited he is. Lots of pace & the odd trick but no end product. Nothing special certainly not worth 9/10 million.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 18:41:49 GMT
Lol When has a Stoke player ever criticised our crowd? You are siding with Adebayor ffs. Â Jesus hates Christ. You are praising Spurs fans whilst criticising our own. What better example do we have than Adebayor speaking out? What about Ethers praising Pulis. Did that grate?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 18:57:18 GMT
You are siding with Adebayor ffs. Jesus hates Christ. You are praising Spurs fans whilst criticising our own. What better example do we have than Adebayor speaking out? What about Ethers praising Pulis. Did that grate? I've given Pulis plenty of praise. Ethers is right to praise him, Pu?is and the club rescued him. I'm using the Spurs fans as a good example of how fans should get behind a player no matter what. We have a section of support who are sitting there ready to jump on a players back from minute one. You know I'm right and it's rotten.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:01:45 GMT
You are praising Spurs fans whilst criticising our own. What better example do we have than Adebayor speaking out? What about Ethers praising Pulis. Did that grate? I've given Pulis plenty of praise. Ethers is right to praise him, Pu?is and the club rescued him. I'm using the Spurs fans as a good example of how fans should get behind a player no matter what. We have a section of support who are sitting there ready to jump on a players back from minute one. You know I'm right and it's rotten. You are right. Hence the booing and howls of derision on 15 minutes when Diouf miscontrolled a ball. Fucking disgusting.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 19:04:52 GMT
I've given Pulis plenty of praise. Ethers is right to praise him, Pu?is and the club rescued him. I'm using the Spurs fans as a good example of how fans should get behind a player no matter what. We have a section of support who are sitting there ready to jump on a players back from minute one. You know I'm right and it's rotten. You are right. Hence the booing and howls of derision on 15 minutes when Diouf miscontrolled a ball. Fucking disgusting. Yep, the brain dead tool behind me told everyone around us that Diouf was 'fucking wank' and Hughes should 'fuck him off' after 5 minutes. These people sicken me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:08:34 GMT
You are right. Hence the booing and howls of derision on 15 minutes when Diouf miscontrolled a ball. Fucking disgusting. Yep, the brain dead tool behind me told everyone around us that Diouf was 'fucking wank' and Hughes should 'fuck him off' after 5 minutes. These people sicken me. I wonder if you sit near me then because I had words with a bloke saying exactly the same things.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 23, 2014 19:11:28 GMT
I am rapidly reaching the conclusion that Moses is an upgrade on Assaidi but that neither are as good as Arnie is and certainly nowhere near as Arnie could be. Arnie improved tremendously in the latter part of last season, in my view because he had someone else on the pitch with an equal football brain, Odem! He now has Bojan and that will improve his performances, just a great pity we can't have Arnie, Bojan and Odem on the pitch at the same time.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Nov 23, 2014 19:17:02 GMT
You are right. Hence the booing and howls of derision on 15 minutes when Diouf miscontrolled a ball. Fucking disgusting. Yep, the brain dead tool behind me told everyone around us that Diouf was 'fucking wank' and Hughes should 'fuck him off' after 5 minutes. These people sicken me. Highly odd. I think we all came to the same conclusion. He was knackered.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 23, 2014 20:18:11 GMT
He was totally shit (as were the rest bar Bojan). The thing that's really resinent was when Adam massively miss hit a cross at the end arnie did well to keep it then proceeded to fuck it up himself with another shit cross, the crowd were straight on his back yet Adam's poor attempt didn't get the same response.
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Post by jonnysidparto on Nov 23, 2014 20:26:52 GMT
11 pages on a 2nd half sub!??!
Really!?!?
Like Bojan he needs game time and a consistent run. I like Moses, I like Arnie but both look better with Pieters at left back.
Im sure he will be to his best sooner rather than later
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Post by liamo on Nov 23, 2014 21:37:57 GMT
Arnie has deleted his twitter, due to abuse i imagine, what a nice bunch of fans we have sometimes
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 23, 2014 21:48:12 GMT
Arnie has deleted his twitter, due to abuse i imagine, what a nice bunch of fans we have sometimes If so called Stoke fans have been giving him abuse then they need a good hiding.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 21:50:40 GMT
Arnie desperately needs a run of games to get the best out of him. We know there's a player in there it's getting it bloody out that's the problem at the minute. The odd 20 mins here and there are not allowing him to gel imo
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Post by upthefud on Nov 23, 2014 21:51:22 GMT
I am rapidly reaching the conclusion that Moses is an upgrade on Assaidi but that neither are as good as Arnie is and certainly nowhere near as Arnie could be. Arnie improved tremendously in the latter part of last season, in my view because he had someone else on the pitch with an equal football brain, Odem! He now has Bojan and that will improve his performances, just a great pity we can't have Arnie, Bojan and Odem on the pitch at the same time. Arnie better than Moses? Think someone's spiked your mushrooms
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 21:54:03 GMT
Arnie has deleted his twitter, due to abuse i imagine, what a nice bunch of fans we have sometimes If that's the case that is bloody dreadful. Bring back Ray Wallace. Fcuk me.
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Post by stokeramblers on Nov 23, 2014 21:56:49 GMT
Arnie has deleted his twitter, due to abuse i imagine, what a nice bunch of fans we have sometimes If so called Stoke fans have been giving him abuse then they need a good hiding. Who else would it be..? What a bunch of braindead, knuckle dragging cunts, shameful
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 23, 2014 22:11:48 GMT
I am rapidly reaching the conclusion that Moses is an upgrade on Assaidi but that neither are as good as Arnie is and certainly nowhere near as Arnie could be. Arnie improved tremendously in the latter part of last season, in my view because he had someone else on the pitch with an equal football brain, Odem! He now has Bojan and that will improve his performances, just a great pity we can't have Arnie, Bojan and Odem on the pitch at the same time. Arnie better than Moses? Think someone's spiked your mushrooms No, you are entitled to you opinion and I am entitled to mine. Moses puts lots of effort into his game and has pace but to what end? Arnie takes up good positions and creates good chances. Time will show that I am right especially now that Bojan is coming good. The two together will be an effective partnership as both need players with good footballing brains. Arnie came good last season as soon as Odem came on the scene, both excellent technical players with quick football brains. Arnie gets frustrated because others aren't quick thinking enough. He doesn't rush around except to track back which Moses does little of because he takes up good positions in the first place.
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