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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 11:48:33 GMT
Only a couple of weeks ago, a fairly well known rad fem on Twitter, effectively told me that if she had a gun with two bullets, she would shoot me, let me bleed out in pain and then put it to my head and finish me off. The crime? I asked Jean "I'm serious now, none of this is for publicity, at all, even if I did go on Sky News and give an interview to the Mirror" Hatchet whether she believed a female could assault a male... in any way shape or form. No surprise, females can't abuse males, sexually or not. If you're a female, and you stab a male with a knife, he deserved it. Equality eh? Lovely people. Regardless, her supporters trolled me for days, the worst being the one I described above. Hope you asked how on earth she would be able to shoot you with Mr Sheen in one hand and a duster in the other. I took the moral high ground
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Post by RAF on Nov 14, 2014 11:49:44 GMT
Only a couple of weeks ago, a fairly well known rad fem on Twitter, effectively told me that if she had a gun with two bullets, she would shoot me, let me bleed out in pain and then put it to my head and finish me off. The crime? I asked Jean "I'm serious now, none of this is for publicity, at all, even if I did go on Sky News and give an interview to the Mirror" Hatchet whether she believed a female could assault a male... in any way shape or form. No surprise, females can't abuse males, sexually or not. If you're a female, and you stab a male with a knife, he deserved it. Equality eh? Lovely people. Regardless, her supporters trolled me for days, the worst being the one I described above. Hope you asked how on earth she would be able to shoot you with Mr Sheen in one hand and a duster in the other. I'd have asked her how the fuck she loaded a gun when she couldn't change a fucking tyre? H
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Post by skeelsy on Nov 14, 2014 12:39:24 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength !
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Post by openg on Nov 14, 2014 12:40:20 GMT
As far as I'm concerned (having read up on it a bit), he basically went out like thousands of others each weekend and had sex with a drunk girl who was a willing participant. I think this adequately describes the case against Clayton, who was acquitted, but not the one against Ched. The girl was leathered and went back to Clayton's hotel room, probably for sex with him. Whether she could have formed consent, due to being leathered, is in question and forms the basis of the prosecution in both the cases, but in Clayton's case there is a rather large dollop of doubt in his favour, as she went back to his room willingly. He can reasonably assume some level of consent to intimacy, or at the very least a reasonable doubt in his favour. Ched made his way over to the room after he learned there was a leathered girl in there. He entered the room and had sex with her, while his friends videoed the act from an outside window. There is not the inference of consent, or anywhere near the same amount of possibility to raise doubt, with that act as there is with Clayton's. IMO. Hence Clayton is acquitted, rightly, and Ched is now a convicted rapist.
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Post by imho on Nov 14, 2014 12:50:22 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength ! or maybe she thinks a CONVICTED rapist is not a good role model and she does not want to be linked in anyway to one or a club who would sign one.
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Post by basingstokie on Nov 14, 2014 12:55:24 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength ! or maybe she thinks a CONVICTED rapist is not a good role model and she does not want to be linked in anyway to one or a club who would sign one. Sheffield Utd should grow a pair and remove her name from the stand now anyway - regardless of what they decide to do with Ched Evans. By coming out so publically with her view she has failed to respect that the management and owners of the club will do what they think is right, not based on the views of her, or anyone else
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 14, 2014 13:02:08 GMT
As far as I'm concerned (having read up on it a bit), he basically went out like thousands of others each weekend and had sex with a drunk girl who was a willing participant. I think this adequately describes the case against Clayton, who was acquitted, but not the one against Ched. The girl was leathered and went back to Clayton's hotel room, probably for sex with him. Whether she could have formed consent, due to being leathered, is in question and forms the basis of the prosecution in both the cases, but in Clayton's case there is a rather large dollop of doubt in his favour, as she went back to his room willingly. He can reasonably assume some level of consent to intimacy, or at the very least a reasonable doubt in his favour. Ched made his way over to the room after he learned there was a leathered girl in there. He entered the room and had sex with her, while his friends videoed the act from an outside window. There is not the inference of consent, or anywhere near the same amount of possibility to raise doubt, with that act as there is with Clayton's. IMO. Hence Clayton is acquitted, rightly, and Ched is now a convicted rapist. So she was sober enough to give consent when she started having sex with Clayton - but then a few minutes later when Evans joined in she was too drunk? Don't get me wrong: it's a horrible act especially from someone in a long term relationship, but is there certainty - beyond reasonable doubt, that she could consent to one act, but then be unable to consent to the second act?
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Post by imho on Nov 14, 2014 13:06:02 GMT
or maybe she thinks a CONVICTED rapist is not a good role model and she does not want to be linked in anyway to one or a club who would sign one. Sheffield Utd should grow a pair and remove her name from the stand now anyway - regardless of what they decide to do with Ched Evans. By coming out so publically with her view she has failed to respect that the management and owners of the club will do what they think is right, not based on the views of her, or anyone else i actually agree but also the longer it goes on the worse the club looks (as if they are waiting to see how 'bad' things could get if they resign him before making the decision)
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Post by openg on Nov 14, 2014 13:14:48 GMT
I think this adequately describes the case against Clayton, who was acquitted, but not the one against Ched. The girl was leathered and went back to Clayton's hotel room, probably for sex with him. Whether she could have formed consent, due to being leathered, is in question and forms the basis of the prosecution in both the cases, but in Clayton's case there is a rather large dollop of doubt in his favour, as she went back to his room willingly. He can reasonably assume some level of consent to intimacy, or at the very least a reasonable doubt in his favour. Ched made his way over to the room after he learned there was a leathered girl in there. He entered the room and had sex with her, while his friends videoed the act from an outside window. There is not the inference of consent, or anywhere near the same amount of possibility to raise doubt, with that act as there is with Clayton's. IMO. Hence Clayton is acquitted, rightly, and Ched is now a convicted rapist. So she was sober enough to give consent when she started having sex with Clayton - but then a few minutes later when Evans joined in she was too drunk? Don't get me wrong: it's a horrible act especially from someone in a long term relationship, but is there certainty - beyond reasonable doubt, that she could consent to one act, but then be unable to consent to the second act? She might have been too drunk to give either consent, but Clayton can raise much more doubt over this than Ched, as she went to his hotel room willingly. Ched was a later visitor and had to trick an hotel employee to get a card to allow him into the room. That his companions videoed the incident from outside is further evidence that he probably went there to have sex with the girl whether she had the capability to consent (a concept that I'm sure that Ched was totally unfamiliar with at the time) or not. IMO.
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Post by redstriper on Nov 14, 2014 13:18:07 GMT
or maybe she thinks a CONVICTED rapist is not a good role model and she does not want to be linked in anyway to one or a club who would sign one. Sheffield Utd should grow a pair and remove her name from the stand now anyway - regardless of what they decide to do with Ched Evans. By coming out so publically with her view she has failed to respect that the management and owners of the club will do what they think is right, not based on the views of her, or anyone else she can't win. she has her own reputation to consider, it wouldn't be long before someone accused her of condoning the actions of club and player because she had stayed silent. She doesn't deserve any criticism in my view.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 14, 2014 13:44:37 GMT
what a thread, Stokies are now blaming the girl for being raped and Jessica Ennis for opening her mouth and giving her opinion.
Nice to know we live in such a lovely world as this.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 14, 2014 13:49:18 GMT
Sheffield Utd should grow a pair and remove her name from the stand now anyway - regardless of what they decide to do with Ched Evans. By coming out so publically with her view she has failed to respect that the management and owners of the club will do what they think is right, not based on the views of her, or anyone else she can't win. she has her own reputation to consider, it wouldn't be long before someone accused her of condoning the actions of club and player because she had stayed silent. She doesn't deserve any criticism in my view. Sheffield United need to respond and take action asap Evans is an ex employee and there is no obligation to renew his contract,. Whether another club decide to employ him, time will tell
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Post by Will_75 on Nov 14, 2014 13:52:54 GMT
what a thread, Stokies are now blaming the girl for being raped and Jessica Ennis for opening her mouth and giving her opinion. Nice to know we live in such a lovely world as this. makes you proud doesn't it?
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 14, 2014 14:03:25 GMT
I have my own views on the Evans case, and all that's clear at the moment is that Sheff Utd or any other football club would have to be barmy to set him back on. However, I am intrigued by the phrase 'ultra feminist media'. Is this the same media that thrives on the objectification of women like a fish thrives on water, or a different media? What are you babbling on about mate? Don't confuse red tops with legitimate media organizations, please. The way this has been handled from a purely media perspective has pandered to feminism. The petition, which was set up by militant feminists has now had about 170k signatures. EVERY TIME the BBC talk about Ched Evans, they remind us of this petition, like it is somehow an indicator of how angry people are. What they've consistently failed to mention (in fact, not a single mainstream media organization has mentioned it yet) is that thousands of the signatures are actually fakes. Militant feminists have even admitted there's some fake names, however they've unsurprisingly blamed it on football fans from different teams. I would be more inclined to say that lying, manipulation and forgery are standard traits of the global radical feminist movement. Fake signatures are exactly what rad fems would do in this circumstance. The media are being incredibly politically correct over this. Why do you think Sky News interviewed Jean 'Genuinely, I'm Not, I Promise, I'M NOT, Doing This For The Publicity' Hatchet? It's a great way of painting themselves as self righteous and all knowing. Let's be honest, in the wake of the Brenda Leyland affair, Sky News needed a bit of a distraction. The point is he is NOT innocent, he's a convicted rapist. Do you really expect someone on TV to speculate on that when there is an impending appeal? Ahhh, so as someone who is incredibly confident in the fairness of our judicial system, you will not be complaining if his conviction is subsequently overturned. Very good. I assume you'll return to this thread and inform us all that justice has prevailed, if Evans is released? Thought not. I don't expect anyone to speculate, I expect the coverage to be balanced, especially from the BBC. Nobody has to speculate of his innocence, but to laugh off such a suggestion as if it is automatically false is absolutely disgusting. It's a sickening bias that the BBC have taken in. There's also some irony when the BBC start preaching morality about rape, wouldn't you agree? Firstly RAF Jess Ennis said fuck all about Mike Tyson that was Charlie Webster. Everyone keeps on about this appeal and how he's certainly going to clear his name. The "LAD" is a victim etc etc. I havn't seen one woman post on here so obviously the majority are going to be in support of good old Ched. Its a football forum not Loose Women's forum. Many see it as as long as he can play fuck it. Same as how the Vile reacted to Lee Hughes. If he had the skills of O neil Donaldson or Billy Whitehurst I'm guessing there wouldnt be as much. Check out who the top thread on here is at the minute or who the most talked about footballer is right now. Yep....Mr Convicted Rapist. Seems he's got the majority of this thread defending him and every single male Sheffield United supporter. So much about how the girl is a liar. That filthy slaaag, poor lad was set up blah blah. Lets focus on who the liar is here for a minute. That'l be the bloke who cheated on his "faithfull" GF. Shes stood by her man bless her. Wonder if she'd have done the same if he'd have worked at tesco? Rape is Rape and like it or not Evans is right now a convicted rapist. I dont blame anyone who has their name tied to a club that supports one wanting to withdraw the said support. Why the hell didnt he put all his efforts into quietly appealing and if succesfull THEN do all the media and try to resume his football career? His supporters focusing on this and that but what is he HAS done the crime sentenced to. What the hell has all this got to do with feminsit agenda's? someone put on here that,quote, "feminists are ruining life". Oh ok. Damn these people defending rape. I want fuck that drunk girl with the tiny skirt so I shall. Shes gagging for it. Bullshit. What about the said girl then. Abused and trolled everywhere as are her supporters now. Even Charlie Webster and Jessica Ennis are now getting dogs abuse. If Idve been a succesfull athlete and honoured by my town like fuck would I want thousands sitting in a stand in my name chanting the name of a convicted rapist. All this is bollocks. Money talks and Im sure Evans will have a brilliant chance at appeal. However thats what he should have focused at from the off. Everything however has been sorted by Evans's agent to get maximum publicity. I can see The Scum newspaper buying his story now if he got a succesfull appeal. Im a celebrity or Big Brother would await a 35 year old ched. By the way folks hows John Leslie doing these days??? Fuck me, reading that was painful mate. Ever heard of a paragraph or a comma? OK, so from your block of text, I'll just pull out my favourite corkers and point out why you're a fucking moron wrong. "Everyone keeps on about this appeal and how he's certainly going to clear his name. The "LAD" is a victim etc etc."Actually, as someone who's posted fairly consistently about this whole affair, I haven't once said that he's certainly going to clear his name. I actually don't trust our justice system to come to such a verdict. I imagine the evidence could be overwhelming yet somehow they'd fuck it up and put another potentially innocent man in jail. "If he had the skills of O neil Donaldson or Billy Whitehurst I'm guessing there wouldnt be as much."This is an odd one. Are we talking about Ched Evans or Wayne Rooney here? He isn't exactly a brilliant player mate. He's probably no better than Billy Whitehurst lol. He's a decent League 1 player, who would sneak into a few Championship teams. He's nowhere near Premiership quality. You sound a bit fucking daft when you make out he's a world beater. "Check out who the top thread on here is at the minute or who the most talked about footballer is right now. Yep....Mr Convicted Rapist."Got anything else we can talk about? Maybe you can set the agenda. The reason we're talking about Evans is because it's in the news... if Stoke were playing this weekend we'd be talking about that. "So much about how the girl is a liar. That filthy slaaag, poor lad was set up blah blah. Lets focus on who the liar is here for a minute. That'l be the bloke who cheated on his "faithfull" GF."I don't think I've read that the girl is a 'filthy slag' as you so eloquently put it. However, her character is always going to be called into question considering her history. A couple of other rape accusations against sportsmen and some rather shady looking tweets leave a bitter taste for many people. As I said in this thread a few times, Evans will have to live with cheating on his girlfriend who has stood by him. It doesn't make him a rapist though. "Shes stood by her man bless her. Wonder if she'd have done the same if he'd have worked at tesco?"As I've pointed out about 10 fucking times, she comes from a family of jewel dealers. He father is worth MILLIONS. Her family makes about 50 million a year. Not quite as much as Bet365 no, but enough to ensure they're not eating rice for tea every night while living on the breadline. I assure you, the £500k Evans will make over three years (if he resigns for SUFC) isn't even pocket money to her. She probably gets that for birthday you daft twat. Instead of running your ridiculous false assumptions off, why don't you do a bit of reading? If you'd spend 30 seconds on Google, you'd know that the only reason Ched Evans is able to afford his case (he certainly hasn't got the money) is because her father is funding his legal battle. Muppet. "Why the hell didnt he put all his efforts into quietly appealing and if succesfull THEN do all the media and try to resume his football career?"Are you for real mate? You sound like you're from a black and white film. WEEKS before his release, the media were printing stories about him. How the fuck could he go about his appeal quietly? The media in this country don't do quiet. He was released from jail at 3am in the morning and there were paparazzi waiting outside to take photos!!! He had absolutely no chance of keeping his appeal quiet. The day he was released, the BBC phoned his girlfriend and asked for an interview. If you want to blame anyone for that, blame the media! "His supporters focusing on this and that but what is he HAS done the crime sentenced to"? ? ? What the hell has all this got to do with feminsit agenda's? someone put on here that,quote, "feminists are ruining life".Feminsit? Nice. I actually don't call it a feminist agenda, but a radical feminist agenda. Unfortunately, as you clearly don't know your head from your arse, I really can't be arsed explaining the difference between the two in detail, but ultimately, radical feminists are pretty much female supremacists and this is a great way of them parading their agenda around the media, that males are violent beasts and that females are damsels in distress and can't put a foot wrong. Males = evil. Females = saints. They're the kind of people who would call you a vile human being for going to football mate. Don't think they're your friend. They aren't. They hate you just as much as they hate me. You're a man after all. "Damn these people defending rape. I want fuck that drunk girl with the tiny skirt so I shall."Nobody is defending rape at all. People are questioning the legitimacy of his conviction, not the same thing. She was wearing shorts by the way. "Abused and trolled everywhere as are her supporters now."I don't know about the abuse to her but anyone who thinks it's okay to abuse her is pretty despicable. Right now, Evans is guilty, therefore she shouldn't be subject to abuse. I agree. Her supporters, aka, radical feminists, are just as abusive as trolls you complain about, if not more so. Only a couple of weeks ago, a fairly well known rad fem on Twitter, effectively told me that if she had a gun with two bullets, she would shoot me, let me bleed out in pain and then put it to my head and finish me off. The crime? I asked Jean "I'm serious now, none of this is for publicity, at all, even if I did go on Sky News and give an interview to the Mirror" Hatchet whether she believed a female could assault a male... in any way shape or form. No surprise, females can't abuse males, sexually or not. If you're a female, and you stab a male with a knife, he deserved it. Equality eh? Lovely people. Regardless, her supporters trolled me for days, the worst being the one I described above. Anyway, hope this clear its up for you mate.... Where have I said it's fair? Where have I said I was confident? The FACTS are he has been found NOT to be INNOCENT by a court of law and is at this point a CONVICTED rapist. My point is that, if he believes he is innocent, he should get his head down, stop making videos, stop courting attention, stop getting his thick as shit gf and muppets like Gordon Taylor to do his dirty work and clear his name. But no, he is using his status as an international footballer to promote his case. Until proven otherwise he's a convicted rapist and should be well away from professional football, especially at clubs who like to push their community activities. Perhaps he can rehabilitate himself at a local school - he might pull.
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Post by mcf on Nov 14, 2014 14:21:09 GMT
Until proven otherwise he's a convicted rapist and should be well away from professional football, especially at clubs who like to push their community activities. Perhaps he can rehabilitate himself at a local school - he might pull.[/quote]
True, most teachers are loose too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 14:25:04 GMT
despite the way in which Pugs has expressed his views, i actually wholeheartedly and 100% agree that until the appeal has been heard and a decision has been made it would be far, far wiser for everyone concerned (i.e. Evans, Ennis, sheffield united, webster) to shut the fuck up and see what happens.
if that HAD been done in the first place then Sheffield United wouldn't be in such a tricky position, Ennis and webster wouldn't risk looking like dicks if the decision is overturned and the media wouldn't be crucifying Evans at every possible step.
obviously the media were always going to get involved but everyone of the people mentioned above just had to say "There is an appeal to be heard about the legality of the original case and to decide whether or not this was a miscarriage of justice or if it was the correct verdict.that is the right of Evans and the correct way to proceed in a civilised, democratic and just society. we will await the findings of that before making comment."
simple really, would have shut everyone up and caused a lot less hassle for all the parties involved.
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Post by mcf on Nov 14, 2014 14:25:28 GMT
what a thread, Stokies are now blaming the girl for being raped and Jessica Ennis for opening her mouth and giving her opinion. Nice to know we live in such a lovely world as this. she should stick to what she knows.... ... cashing in through her sponsorship deals rather than publicly harming the chances of another making a living. Yep, ask for your name to be taken off, but why make a fucking song and dance about it. supposed to be a fucking athlete...not a priest or judge.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 14:25:39 GMT
Where have I said it's fair? Where have I said I was confident? The FACTS are he has been found NOT to be INNOCENT by a court of law and is at this point a CONVICTED rapist. My point is that, if he believes he is innocent, he should get his head down, stop making videos, stop courting attention, stop getting his thick as shit gf and muppets like Gordon Taylor to do his dirty work and clear his name. But no, he is using his status as an international footballer to promote his case. Until proven otherwise he's a convicted rapist and should be well away from professional football, especially at clubs who like to push their community activities. Perhaps he can rehabilitate himself at a local school - he might pull. Stop making videos? Which video (s) do you speak of? You mean the one video that he's made where he apologizes to his family and protests his innocence? Videos is plural. He's made one video because of the media onslaught upon his release. Just hours after getting out the nick, he had the BBC, Sky News, ALL THE RED TOPS, most of the broadsheets and various other media outlets peppering his phone, his address, etc for an interview. Interviews which despite your claims that he's courting attention, he refused to give. He made just a single video which has been his only statement since his release from prison. If he is genuinely convinced of his innocence, I'd say that it's a fairly diplomatic way of handling things for someone as high profile as he is. Evans is being allowed to train with Sheffield United. I doubt he will take part in any community activities, and he is a long way of playing in a match. No doubt, part of the reason they're allowing him to train is because they believe his innocence. If his conviction is overturned, then by allowing him to train, he will be ready to step back into the team. I didn't realize he was a pedophile too Puglsey? Or is that something you just make up, like those fucking moron feminist lunatics?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 14:34:00 GMT
is it wrong that i just read the Ched Evans website on gizoogle just to see how it looked?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 14, 2014 14:35:02 GMT
what a thread, Stokies are now blaming the girl for being raped and Jessica Ennis for opening her mouth and giving her opinion. Nice to know we live in such a lovely world as this. she should stick to what she knows.... ... cashing in through her sponsorship deals rather than publicly harming the chances of another making a living. Yep, ask for your name to be taken off, but why make a fucking song and dance about it. supposed to be a fucking athlete...not a priest or judge. you should stick to what you know, but then I guess you wouldnt have anything to do or talk about EVER
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 14:39:38 GMT
despite the way in which Pugs has expressed his views, i actually wholeheartedly and 100% agree that until the appeal has been heard and a decision has been made it would be far, far wiser for everyone concerned (i.e. Evans, Ennis, sheffield united, webster) to shut the fuck up and see what happens. if that HAD been done in the first place then Sheffield United wouldn't be in such a tricky position, Ennis and webster wouldn't risk looking like dicks if the decision is overturned and the media wouldn't be crucifying Evans at every possible step. obviously the media were always going to get involved but everyone of the people mentioned above just had to say "There is an appeal to be heard about the legality of the original case and to decide whether or not this was a miscarriage of justice or if it was the correct verdict. we will await the findings of that before making comment." simple really, would have shut everyone up and caused a lot less hassle for all the parties involved. Mick, like I've said, Evans left prison at 3am to a barrage of media. He couldn't not release a statement in all honesty. He would not have been able to walk down the street if he hadn't. People like Charlie Webster have fucked up big style in my opinion, because if his conviction is overturned and he's subsequently found not guilty, I wouldn't want them within 10000ft of my football club if I was a SUFC fan. Both Webster and Ennis have done this for a bit of media love. They've effectively disowned their football club for a bit of cheap publicity. Ennis has always loved a bit of publicity. Even at the London Olympics, she played on her image as the 'Golden Girl' and the face of Britain's Olympic push. There's no such thing as bad publicity and as far as Webster and Ennis go, that's where their loyalties lie. If he's found innocent, I would tell them to fuck off if I was SUFC fan. Evans came out and apologized to his family and said that there was an appeal in process. He said nothing else. He's received abuse day in day out from nutcase feminist campaigners, biased media and he's acted fairly diplomatic over it. His girlfriend has come out once or twice but she has the right to speak out if she feels that way. Agreed though, if everyone had just shut up, this wouldn't be kicking off like it is. what a thread, Stokies are now blaming the girl for being raped and Jessica Ennis for opening her mouth and giving her opinion. Nice to know we live in such a lovely world as this. she should stick to what she knows.... ... cashing in through her sponsorship deals rather than publicly harming the chances of another making a living. Yep, ask for your name to be taken off, but why make a fucking song and dance about it. supposed to be a fucking athlete...not a priest or judge. Nail. Head. Ennis knows how to play the media. Hell she did it for year odd before the London Olympics. She was the face of the British Olympics. The Golden Girl. She cashed in on peoples emotions and did very well out of all that. Good going Jess. Now she's taking a moral stand against something that could well be turned over. I would tell her to sling her fucking hook if it is. She asked for her name to be taken off in public so she could get some cheap publicity. We all know what good old Jess is about. Jess "I Is Not Doing It For Publicity, Honest" Ennis... she's at it again.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2014 14:51:29 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength ! The terrifying thing is you just have no idea how offensive that post is. I just hope my daughter never gets to be in the same room as you mate. Truly shocking and scary.
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Post by mcf on Nov 14, 2014 14:57:22 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength ! The terrifying thing is you just have no idea how offensive that post is. I just hope my daughter never gets to be in the same room as you mate. Truly shocking and scary. It's not offensive though is it? If you take out what happened to the girl on that night out of the equation then do you know what type of girl she actually was?
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 14:57:54 GMT
So Jessica wants her name removed from the Bramall Lane Stand named in her honour if the club re-signs Evans because she believes he is a "bad role model" for young people. Perhaps Jessica's ideal "role model" for young girls is a drunken promiscuous tart who goes back to a hotel room with a stranger she picked up in a kebab shop and whose main aim in life is to make lots of money by having sex with a "celebrity" and telling all to the media. Of course, in Jessica's feminist fantasy world the women was a sweet innocent virgin who was deflowered by an arrogant, manipulative chauvinistic pig (i.e.the stereotypical over-paid professional footballer). God give me strength ! The terrifying thing is you just have no idea how offensive that post is. I just hope my daughter never gets to be in the same room as you mate. Truly shocking and scary. As offensive and unpleasant as it is, there is a certain element of truth to it. She has been painted as the Virgin Mary by some in the media, yet there's no denying the fact that she tried this with two other professional sportsman before Evans and failed. She, in fact, picked up McDonald, not the other way around, so to speak. She said yes to both of them. Evans is no role model, but she is no poster girl either. If Evans conviction is subsequently overturned, then most of what skeelsy said, is actually true my friend.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 14:58:36 GMT
The terrifying thing is you just have no idea how offensive that post is. I just hope my daughter never gets to be in the same room as you mate. Truly shocking and scary. It's not offensive though is it? If you take out what happened to the girl on that night out of the equation then do you know what type of girl she actually was? Like I said, if Evans conviction is overturned, then most of it is pretty much spot on.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2014 14:59:47 GMT
despite the way in which Pugs has expressed his views, i actually wholeheartedly and 100% agree that until the appeal has been heard and a decision has been made it would be far, far wiser for everyone concerned (i.e. Evans, Ennis, sheffield united, webster) to shut the fuck up and see what happens. if that HAD been done in the first place then Sheffield United wouldn't be in such a tricky position, Ennis and webster wouldn't risk looking like dicks if the decision is overturned and the media wouldn't be crucifying Evans at every possible step. obviously the media were always going to get involved but everyone of the people mentioned above just had to say "There is an appeal to be heard about the legality of the original case and to decide whether or not this was a miscarriage of justice or if it was the correct verdict. we will await the findings of that before making comment." simple really, would have shut everyone up and caused a lot less hassle for all the parties involved. Mick, like I've said, Evans left prison at 3am to a barrage of media. He couldn't not release a statement in all honesty. He would not have been able to walk down the street if he hadn't. People like Charlie Webster have fucked up big style in my opinion, because if his conviction is overturned and he's subsequently found not guilty, I wouldn't want them within 10000ft of my football club if I was a SUFC fan. Both Webster and Ennis have done this for a bit of media love. They've effectively disowned their football club for a bit of cheap publicity. Ennis has always loved a bit of publicity. Even at the London Olympics, she played on her image as the 'Golden Girl' and the face of Britain's Olympic push. There's no such thing as bad publicity and as far as Webster and Ennis go, that's where their loyalties lie. If he's found innocent, I would tell them to fuck off if I was SUFC fan. Evans came out and apologized to his family and said that there was an appeal in process. He said nothing else. He's received abuse day in day out from nutcase feminist campaigners, biased media and he's acted fairly diplomatic over it. His girlfriend has come out once or twice but she has the right to speak out if she feels that way. Agreed though, if everyone had just shut up, this wouldn't be kicking off like it is. she should stick to what she knows.... ... cashing in through her sponsorship deals rather than publicly harming the chances of another making a living. Yep, ask for your name to be taken off, but why make a fucking song and dance about it. supposed to be a fucking athlete...not a priest or judge. Nail. Head. Ennis knows how to play the media. Hell she did it for year odd before the London Olympics. She was the face of the British Olympics. The Golden Girl. She cashed in on peoples emotions and did very well out of all that. Good going Jess. Now she's taking a moral stand against something that could well be turned over. I would tell her to sling her fucking hook if it is. She asked for her name to be taken off in public so she could get some cheap publicity. We all know what good old Jess is about. Jess "I Is Not Doing It For Publicity, Honest" Ennis... she's at it again. This is just about the most disturbed and perverted piece of logic you can imagine. Someone asks for their name to be taken OFF a huge football stand, which is displayed week in week out in front of thousands of people and she is accused of courting publicity???
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Post by metalhead on Nov 14, 2014 15:02:58 GMT
This is just about the most disturbed and perverted piece of logic you can imagine. Someone asks for their name to be taken OFF a huge football stand, which is displayed week in week out in front of thousands of people and she is accused of courting publicity??? I want you to be totally honest now. I want you be 100% honest. If you can't be 100% honest then don't answer the question mate. OK? Honesty here. Did you even know it was named after her?
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2014 15:05:30 GMT
The terrifying thing is you just have no idea how offensive that post is. I just hope my daughter never gets to be in the same room as you mate. Truly shocking and scary. It's not offensive though is it? If you take out what happened to the girl on that night out of the equation then do you know what type of girl she actually was? Of course I don't know what kind of girl she is and that is of no significance. Some types of girls deserve rape? That is the narrative being promoted here.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2014 15:07:13 GMT
This is just about the most disturbed and perverted piece of logic you can imagine. Someone asks for their name to be taken OFF a huge football stand, which is displayed week in week out in front of thousands of people and she is accused of courting publicity??? I want you to be totally honest now. I want you be 100% honest. If you can't be 100% honest then don't answer the question mate. OK? Honesty here. Did you even know it was named after her? Yes, I live about 500 yards from it! Though what the hell that has got to do with it, I don't know! Actually its 0.9 miles, just checked in the spirit of 100% honesty!
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Post by mcf on Nov 14, 2014 15:16:31 GMT
It's not offensive though is it? If you take out what happened to the girl on that night out of the equation then do you know what type of girl she actually was? Of course I don't know what kind of girl she is and that is of no significance. Some types of girls deserve rape? That is the narrative being promoted here. Of course they don't and that is not the narrative being promoted at all. I just have no idea who you think skeelsy' post is offensive too.
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