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Post by fca47 on Nov 3, 2014 18:11:29 GMT
What a bunch of wankers Tottenham are, seem to be proud to have got Benteke sent off, by deliberately provoking him, and appealing for every foul, tossers, good luck to Charlie if he plays, they will be out to get him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:22:33 GMT
Absolute no-brainer. Same XI. Agreed. We looked a million times better than any other game this season,so in the interest of keeping as settled a side as possible,the same side again for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 18:27:38 GMT
How do you mean after one game? I am not knocking Bardsley in any way, he is the better RB defensively, but in my opinion Cameron offers so much more of a threat going forward. As I have mentioned above, I believe Bardsley will come back into the side at the weekend. I mean after one half decent game at right back, Bardsley was clearly brought in because Cameron wasn't good enough (at RB) and couldn't play the position. We'll just have to agree to disagree with who's better going forward, I just can't see how anyone could think Cameron is the better of the two in that respect. We're you at the game on Saturday flaps? I'm assuming you were,so I don't know how you can say that last paragraph. Cameron did more going forward in one game than Bardsley has offered all season so far. Cameron had a much better game than you're giving him credit for,he was involved in quite a lot of the good stuff we played and should have topped his near man of the match performance with a goal. For me there were only two players who outperformed Geoffrey.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 3, 2014 18:38:16 GMT
I mean after one half decent game at right back, Bardsley was clearly brought in because Cameron wasn't good enough (at RB) and couldn't play the position. We'll just have to agree to disagree with who's better going forward, I just can't see how anyone could think Cameron is the better of the two in that respect. We're you at the game on Saturday flaps? I'm assuming you were,so I don't know how you can say that last paragraph. Cameron did more going forward in one game than Bardsley has offered all season so far. Cameron had a much better game than you're giving him credit for,he was involved in quite a lot of the good stuff we played and should have topped his near man of the match performance with a goal. For me there were only two players who outperformed Geoffrey. Amen. But don't expect any change in attitude from people with closed minds.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 3, 2014 18:59:31 GMT
I don't think Bardsley is any better at right back than Cameron, in fact Cameron is a far better footballer than Bardsley. I'd like to see the same starting 11 from Saturday but Hughes has already said he will pick and choose games that Bojan will start. I hope that wasn't a hint that Bojan will be on the bench, he needs to be the centre of everything we do. He is a truly gifted fucker.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 3, 2014 19:12:44 GMT
Where as our right hand side was good on Saturday I think that it may of had something to do with bieng against the shockingly bad Almafitano and the boy creswell in the first half may have had something to do with it.
Bardsley back at right back and Geoff in the middle for me.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 3, 2014 19:28:38 GMT
Absolute no-brainer. Same XI. Agreed. We looked a million times better than any other game this season,so in the interest of keeping as settled a side as possible,the same side again for me. I agree with you. Why change anything? We have Adam and Crouch to give us impetus if we struggle, which I don't forsee. I think we'll win 2-1 in a solid display.
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Post by haddock on Nov 3, 2014 19:58:22 GMT
Put geoff on az cb instead of wilson
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 3, 2014 20:22:04 GMT
---------------Bego---------------- ----Bardsley Shawcross Wilson------ --Cameron N'Zonzi Sidwell Muniesa-- ---------------Bojan--------------- --------Walters Arnautovic--------- .. Adam, Diouf and Moses for extra impact. {Plenty of time for a mindshift.}
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Post by albundy on Nov 3, 2014 20:38:20 GMT
gcam was excellent on the overlap and linked up superbly with sjw but his crossing was awful. I don't think any got above 3 inches off the ground.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 4, 2014 0:13:04 GMT
I don't think my opinion on Cameron as a right back is any secret and in spite of his performances there last season, he performed well on Saturday. I would keep him in the side, as he has earned his place for now. I wouldn't change a thing from Saturday and hope we can get a result against a shaky Tottenham team.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 4, 2014 5:25:12 GMT
Cameron RB. Adam in for Sidwell. Sent from my GT-I9192 using proboards There is no doubt that offensively Geoff offered us something that Bardsley simply can't from right back. He was undoubtedly part of the reason that we clicked as on offensive unit for the first real time this season. Been saying this since day one... Bardsley can't offer anything going forward except the occasional power shot.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 4, 2014 5:34:37 GMT
I mean after one half decent game at right back, Bardsley was clearly brought in because Cameron wasn't good enough (at RB) and couldn't play the position. We'll just have to agree to disagree with who's better going forward, I just can't see how anyone could think Cameron is the better of the two in that respect. We're you at the game on Saturday flaps? I'm assuming you were,so I don't know how you can say that last paragraph. Cameron did more going forward in one game than Bardsley has offered all season so far. Cameron had a much better game than you're giving him credit for,he was involved in quite a lot of the good stuff we played and should have topped his near man of the match performance with a goal. For me there were only two players who outperformed Geoffrey. It's flaps he think's Shotton is better going forward than Geoff... enough said.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 4, 2014 5:43:49 GMT
Absolute no-brainer. Same XI. Agreed. We looked a million times better than any other game this season,so in the interest of keeping as settled a side as possible,the same side again for me. Only two people I'd consider changing are Sidwell and Pieters. Otherwise a safer bet is same 11, it was night and day difference on the counters! (Depends on Spurs lineup tbh) Both Pieters and Sidwell had better second halfs and were good overall, but both were out of position alot in the first half and especially for the downing cross to valencia. (Bojan should of muscled him out sure, but did you expect it? I didn't.) That was the old stoke of last season with a swinging gate and more fluid midfield looking for the ball off of geoff's overlapping runs... who's been calling for that here???? I honestly don't think Bardsley can hold possession and dribble on the edge long enough to play with Walters, Moses or Arnie in a one two or look to get open in space like Geoff did on Saturday. Defense or Offense, that is the question... at Spurs tbh away, defense. I'd move Geoff into a Sidwell, Nzonzi midfield three with Sidwell as CDM. I'd have Nzonzi play in Bojan's spot away to start he looks a different player in a roaming position. Possibly start Muniesa for Pieters I wasn't impressed with his being out of position in the first half, second half he was fired up and a different player... Bojan I'd keep for an early sub he needs game time. I'd use Charlie and Crouch as impact subs. Walters has been playing well lately deserves another start on the right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 10:06:39 GMT
gcam was excellent on the overlap and linked up superbly with sjw but his crossing was awful. I don't think any got above 3 inches off the ground. Especially the one he put in to set up the first goal
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 4, 2014 10:16:04 GMT
Hughes is a big one for rewarding good performances and making players wait to return. He will be tempted to leave well alone, especially as Bardsley has been suffering from a stiff back of late and Geoff looked so good at right back this weekend. If Crouch is free to play, he may bring him straight back in though, as he holds the ball up so well, and it will be a big game for him on his return to WHL. Agree to a point but why is Adam left out? He's performed as well as anyone but still finds it hard to get a regular start.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Nov 4, 2014 10:25:35 GMT
We HAVE to start to settle the team down and persist with the 11 who started at the weekend. Not one change because it could make all the difference. Bardo and Crouch can come onto the bench. We saw last season what good a consistent team sheet can do. This is our chance.
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Post by homer32 on Nov 4, 2014 20:27:25 GMT
Bardsley will be back & GCam will replace Sidwell.No other changes with Bojan keeping his place & Diouf up top .
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Post by chicagoscfc on Nov 4, 2014 21:03:24 GMT
Same XI... Get Moses the ball more and give Cameron the chance to make some plays on offense. Plus, Stoke can count on more American help coming as my son's U10 team won the neighborhood league championship last weekend... future Stokies on the squad!
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Nov 5, 2014 4:52:18 GMT
Where as our right hand side was good on Saturday I think that it may of had something to do with bieng against the shockingly bad Almafitano and the boy creswell in the first half may have had something to do with it. Bardsley back at right back and Geoff in the middle for me. i think this is a very fair point. We were good, but west ham were poor. Geoff looked terrible the Saturday before against s'hampton, but played brilliantly in his sub appearance the week before that against Swansea. It will be interesting to see which geoff shows up against spurs, and where Hughes will play him.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Nov 7, 2014 12:40:10 GMT
Dont know about anybody else but not sure what to expect this Sunday
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Post by nott1 on Nov 7, 2014 12:54:37 GMT
Dont know about anybody else but not sure what to expect this Sunday 2-1 to us, no danger!
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Post by lordb on Nov 7, 2014 13:09:18 GMT
We have had a right mixed bag of performances & results at WHL since promotion. We stank the place out last season. Regardless of the score if we play to same standard as last week we should be in for a cracking game.
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Post by 2004 on Nov 7, 2014 13:31:48 GMT
There is no doubt that offensively Geoff offered us something that Bardsley simply can't from right back. He was undoubtedly part of the reason that we clicked as on offensive unit for the first real time this season. Been saying this since day one... Bardsley can't offer anything going forward except the occasional power shot. Nonsense
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Post by bazzaboy666 on Nov 7, 2014 13:58:14 GMT
Begovic Barnsley shawcross Wilson pieters Nzonzi Adam Bojan Walters Moses Diouuf
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Post by bazzaboy666 on Nov 7, 2014 13:58:52 GMT
Plenty in that team to soak up pressure and put a few past em. They struggled last night against some no marks
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 7, 2014 14:59:13 GMT
I mean after one half decent game at right back, Bardsley was clearly brought in because Cameron wasn't good enough (at RB) and couldn't play the position. We'll just have to agree to disagree with who's better going forward, I just can't see how anyone could think Cameron is the better of the two in that respect. We're you at the game on Saturday flaps? I'm assuming you were,so I don't know how you can say that last paragraph. Cameron did more going forward in one game than Bardsley has offered all season so far. Cameron had a much better game than you're giving him credit for,he was involved in quite a lot of the good stuff we played and should have topped his near man of the match performance with a goal. For me there were only two players who outperformed Geoffrey. I never said he had a bad game, I completely disagree about doing more than Bardsley has all season, but apparently I have a closed mind ( ) even though I keep saying I'd happily see him given another chance in midfield, a position he should know how to play. Anyway, I fancy us to get something from Tottenham, given their iffy form.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 7, 2014 15:00:03 GMT
Begovic Barnsley shawcross Wilson pieters Nzonzi Adam Bojan Walters Moses Diouuf Swap Adam for Sidwell and I'm with ya.
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Post by bazzaboy666 on Nov 7, 2014 15:11:10 GMT
Begovic Barnsley shawcross Wilson pieters Nzonzi Adam Bojan Walters Moses Diouuf Swap Adam for Sidwell and I'm with ya. For me they have no fear factor. Might as well get Adam on first and get up and at em.
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 7, 2014 15:38:45 GMT
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