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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 20, 2014 10:19:14 GMT
TelegraphSwansea is in my heart. I'm a Swansea fan and I was born and bred in Swansea. I played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain with Celtic and Arsenal. But Swansea is always the club I have looked out for. I'm back living in Swansea with my family and they've all got season tickets. I've personally got two season tickets for me and my son who is currently playing for the Swansea academy. So it's my club.
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Post by coates on Oct 20, 2014 10:28:27 GMT
TelegraphSwansea is in my heart. I'm a Swansea fan and I was born and bred in Swansea. I played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain with Celtic and Arsenal. But Swansea is always the club I have looked out for. I'm back living in Swansea with my family and they've all got season tickets. I've personally got two season tickets for me and my son who is currently playing for the Swansea academy. So it's my club.
J. Hartson 2013 You can guarantee had Swansea won, that incident would of never been mentioned. Clutching at straws I Think. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 20, 2014 10:29:01 GMT
Pisser this is. I've seen so many bad decisions in the league, the Moses incident isn't even in the top 50! To have Monk and Hartson go apeshit is nuts. Especially as they seem to think that their penalty was absolutely nailed on and not at all debatable.
Two extremely soft penalties but the fallout has been extraordinary. Garrrrrry Monk looked as if he wanted to kill someone and Hartson almost shat himself with rage. They both made arseholes of themselves and their shaming of Moses was way OTT.
The BBC should probably have had a word with Hartson or pulled him from the programme as he was never going to be anything other than unbalanced. I'm not saying pundits shouldn't have opinions but his opinion was obviously going to be clouded by where his loyalties lie.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2014 10:34:53 GMT
TelegraphSwansea is in my heart. I'm a Swansea fan and I was born and bred in Swansea. I played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain with Celtic and Arsenal. But Swansea is always the club I have looked out for. I'm back living in Swansea with my family and they've all got season tickets. I've personally got two season tickets for me and my son who is currently playing for the Swansea academy. So it's my club.
J. Hartson 2013 You can guarantee had Swansea won, that incident would of never been mentioned. Clutching at straws I Think. Fucking mard arse ginger Welsh wanker, no mention of the assaults he committed in his playing career, BBC want fucking allowing the biased hypocrite to comment on the show about anything involving" his club", played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain Arsenal and Celtic  what a grade A cunt. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 20, 2014 10:39:52 GMT
Hartson kicked one of his own team mates in the face and thinks Moses is a disgrace. Yeh, ok John.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 10:44:04 GMT
He's fucking packed into that gilet (or bodywarmer if you prefer)
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 20, 2014 10:50:43 GMT
And this was Hartson at his most professional:
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Post by penkvillepotter on Oct 20, 2014 10:52:11 GMT
I don't mind Hartson on 5live as he does tend to offer an opinion as opposed to some of the bland stuff most of the others trot out. But last night he undoubtedly had his black and white bobble hat on, went off on one and made a bit of a tit of himself. I'll forgive him for that, he's not alone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 10:56:09 GMT
I've finally seen the incidents and I'm quite shocked, given the coverage. I'm as bias as the next man (if that next man is John Hartson) but watching the highlights... - The biggest cheat was Bony, who collapsed twice in the penalty area. - Shawcross and Bony were holding each other (as Danny Mills said). - Moses clearly had his shirt tugged downwards as he ran. Only he will know if he made a meal of it, but it could easily have brought him down if running at pace.  - The most blatant penalty of the day was the shirt pull on Crouch. Go get Hartson, Stoke.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 11:04:01 GMT
I haven't heard anyone suggest Lampard was a cheat yet his dive was ten times worse than that of Moses. Yes it was a soft penalty but there was definitely contact.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 20, 2014 11:04:09 GMT
So for balance when are MotD going to have a Stoke season ticket holder to share their views of one of our matches?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 11:04:23 GMT
The club has taken enough shit from MotD over the years, and where has our dignified silence got us? We need to fire a shot across the bows to let them know we won't be the butt of every shitty allegation going.
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Post by brumstokie on Oct 20, 2014 11:05:06 GMT
TelegraphThank you John Percy for mentioning that Monk attacked the Ref - He actually said " The Ref's cheated us" on Sky Sports. By the time he got to the BBC interview I suspect he'd realised the crap he would be in & just concentrated on slagging Moses off. The BBC have not to my knowledge reported anywhere the Sky Sports quote - just the Moses comments. The FA code of conduct states that you cannot question an official's integrity - I expect him to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute this afternoon. Swansea is in my heart. I'm a Swansea fan and I was born and bred in Swansea. I played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain with Celtic and Arsenal. But Swansea is always the club I have looked out for. I'm back living in Swansea with my family and they've all got season tickets. I've personally got two season tickets for me and my son who is currently playing for the Swansea academy. So it's my club.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 20, 2014 11:07:40 GMT
These official complaints NEVER get anywhere so why bother?
Just stay cool and let some time pass and it will all be forgotten about by next weekend.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 20, 2014 11:08:10 GMT
Beat them to it this morning! I complained that Mr Hartson's 'rant' was 1.unfair 2.offensive 3.potentially libellous. I pointed that accusing Moses of being a 'diver' was unfair because at no time when Moses played for Wigan, Chelsea, Liverpool had he been accused of such behaviour. Also, I pointed out nobody had said Lampard was a 'diver' in an identical incident in the Man City v. Spurs match? As for cheating, I asked why the analysis did not include the Crouch holding in the FH highlighted by the match commentator?!
It's about time SCFC acted, otherwise 'Auntie' will relegate us?!
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Post by Gods on Oct 20, 2014 11:14:36 GMT
Can't help thinking Hartson's season ticket holding family members had him wound up as tight as a bow before he even entered the MOTD studio and he didn't want to let them down.
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Post by mrpickles on Oct 20, 2014 11:27:08 GMT
These official complaints NEVER get anywhere so why bother? Just stay cool and let some time pass and it will all be forgotten about by next weekend. I don't want it forgotten tbh. I think the rest of the premier league and the media outlets need to ask themselves whether they really want this? By 'this' I mean, 25,000 Stoke fans who feel like the world is against them. We're the biggest, most unreasonable bunch of bastards going when we feel wronged. We've definitely influenced games before by being a bunch of vile twats, so let everyone keep throwing all the shit they want. I think its great  |
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2014 11:29:11 GMT
Can't help thinking Hartson's season ticket holding family members had him wound up as tight as a bow before he even entered the MOTD studio and he didn't want to let them down.
Not a good enough reason for the bullshit he came out with, unbiased opinion from the BBC my arse, I hope Moses sues the Welsh cunt for slander.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Oct 20, 2014 12:14:39 GMT
Moses is obviously the first player in the history of the game to make an "alleged" dive. MOTD seem to amazingly forget these precious Premier League moments of course.     But hey, its not an issue if you wear the shirt of Liverpool or Man Utd. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2014 12:24:30 GMT
I'm quite happy to have passionate pundits like Hartson
He meant every word clearly.
Needed some one with a Stoke viewpoint though.
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Post by crownmeking on Oct 20, 2014 12:30:45 GMT
These official complaints NEVER get anywhere so why bother? Just stay cool and let some time pass and it will all be forgotten about by next weekend. I am not surprised you think it should just be 'left' considering you were on here yesterday slagging Moses off too. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 20, 2014 12:32:56 GMT
I'm quite happy to have passionate pundits like Hartson He meant every word clearly. Needed some one with a Stoke viewpoint though. We needed someone with a stoke viewpoint to punch the cunt in the mouth for his biased stoke hating comments  |
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Post by dg19531 on Oct 20, 2014 12:53:07 GMT
I've also complained to the BBC. The more complaints they receive, the more seriously they will take the issue.
I complained about Hartson's bias and also the fact he was allowed so much time to continue his rant when there were other significant incidents that should have been highlighted e.g. the pull on Crouch's shirt that went unpunished and the excellent winning goal following a 5/6 man passing movement.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 20, 2014 12:55:53 GMT
So for balance when are MotD going to have a Stoke season ticket holder to share their views of one of our matches? I'm free next Saturday. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 12:56:14 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 20, 2014 12:57:58 GMT
I think we should cop it sweet. He's entitled to his opinion and that's that.
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Post by StoKeith on Oct 20, 2014 13:21:14 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 20, 2014 13:23:12 GMT
Leave Hartson alone, after all he ain't got much going for him, he's Welsh, Ginger and his cock smells of Sheep fanny. |
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Post by foster on Oct 20, 2014 13:28:07 GMT
TelegraphSwansea is in my heart. I'm a Swansea fan and I was born and bred in Swansea. I played for some of the biggest clubs in Britain with Celtic and Arsenal. But Swansea is always the club I have looked out for. I'm back living in Swansea with my family and they've all got season tickets. I've personally got two season tickets for me and my son who is currently playing for the Swansea academy. So it's my club.
J. Hartson 2013 Fucking hell, could anyone possibly look like more of a complete and utter dick as Hartson in that photo. |
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Post by jeycov on Oct 20, 2014 13:28:36 GMT
I've also complained to the BBC. The more complaints they receive, the more seriously they will take the issue. I complained about Hartson's bias and also the fact he was allowed so much time to continue his rant when there were other significant incidents that should have been highlighted e.g. the pull on Crouch's shirt that went unpunished and the excellent winning goal following a 5/6 man passing movement. I've tried to make the complaint from the view of any football fan so as we are not just seen as whinging Stoke City The BBC does have a responsibility to give a balanced assessment of incidents like this, if they decide to invite an ex player from just one of the clubs involved, then he should be professional enough to comment in an appropriate way. This is not a live commentary, producers, presenters, guests, they all have time to consider their comments and appropriate language |
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what a grade A cunt. 
