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Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 14, 2014 22:11:08 GMT
Because I know you can't give me one. You post another of your bullshit non answers with nothing to back it up. How about you? Or would you allow yourself to be corrupted by the big corporations? You posted: I am blaming you..me, all of us for voting in idiots and warmongers, who sell weapons to these organisations as friends and then slaughter them when they become enemies. Again I never said it justifies the atrocities, so please don't misquote me or misrepresent my views. There will be no peace in this world until the likes of you and I and everyone else kick these idiots out of power. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/234719/islamic-behead-british-worker-haines?page=3&scrollTo=4438205#ixzz3DKYI693CI've asked for a name of who we should vote into power, and your asking me.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 14, 2014 22:11:06 GMT
And vote who into power exactly? Decent politicians who are not in the pay of global companies. Who are the decent politicians not in the pay of global companies.? Are any of these known on a national scale? Because they certainly are not SK, Mumf, bispor myself
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 22:11:58 GMT
Yes I am. Still waiting for the name. George Galloway? An obvious choice
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 14, 2014 22:27:32 GMT
Careful..or I'll have to report you for being nasty. You wouldn't want that would you...Enoch? Do it...Don't fuck about. You've stated your allegiences on here before. The only nasty evil one on here is you. You're a disgrace. Sticks and stones mate..sticks and stones. Have you started your anger management course yet?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 14, 2014 22:30:03 GMT
Decent politicians who are not in the pay of global companies. Who are the decent politicians not in the pay of global companies.? Are any of these known on a national scale? Because they certainly are not SK, Mumf, bispor myself That's my point Al, the majority aren't. Dennis Skinner John McDonell to name two currently at Westminster. But to make change it's decent people like you (not necessarily you) who need to step up to the plate. Didn't you mention regional governments earlier in the week? Good starting point.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 14, 2014 22:31:29 GMT
How about you? Or would you allow yourself to be corrupted by the big corporations? You posted: I am blaming you..me, all of us for voting in idiots and warmongers, who sell weapons to these organisations as friends and then slaughter them when they become enemies. Again I never said it justifies the atrocities, so please don't misquote me or misrepresent my views. There will be no peace in this world until the likes of you and I and everyone else kick these idiots out of power. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/234719/islamic-behead-british-worker-haines?page=3&scrollTo=4438205#ixzz3DKYI693CI've asked for a name of who we should vote into power, and your asking me. That's because you've clearly missed my point and I've already answered it...decent people like you perhaps? Or do you think you'd allow yourself to be corrupted too?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 22:35:03 GMT
Do it...Don't fuck about. You've stated your allegiences on here before. The only nasty evil one on here is you. You're a disgrace. Sticks and stones mate..sticks and stones. Have you started your anger management course yet? Not yet Abdul....How about you ? Have you booked your airline ticket for South East Turkey yet..? Don't to forget to hide your camera , or you might lose your head.....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 14, 2014 22:36:16 GMT
Sticks and stones mate..sticks and stones. Have you started your anger management course yet? Not yet Abdul....How about you ? Have you booked your airline ticket for South East Turkey yet..? Don't to forget to hide your camera , or you might lose your head..... Why would I do that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 22:40:50 GMT
Not yet Abdul....How about you ? Have you booked your airline ticket for South East Turkey yet..? Don't to forget to hide your camera , or you might lose your head..... Why would I do that? True....you can't hide out there like you do on here.... ducking and diving would not stop a bullet .
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 14, 2014 23:18:21 GMT
Why would I do that? True....you can't hide out there like you do on here.... ducking and diving would not stop a bullet . Behave yourself you fool. I don't hide or duck and dive...I do stand up for myself and against misguided folk like you.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2014 0:19:29 GMT
Its the PC way. Islamics decapitate people and its always someone elses fault. In this instance it is our fault, yours and mine for electing the idiots who've got us into this mess. Tough to swallow but there it is. Not me. As ive stated on another thread about politics, I turn up at the polling station but spoil the paper as none of the pricks on it deserve my endorsement. Dmocratic duty is turning up, not voting for one specific idiot. As for those who maintain that these scum bags have nothing to do with islam. It's bullshit. Look at the two major religions. Christianity used to be a religion of killing and death. At some point somebody woke up and realised that people needed something to get them to advance without all the conflict so they introduced this guy called Jesus who was the total opposite and was benevolent and so things all evolved in a hunky dory fashion, with his followers following his instruction to love etc. Islam didnt do that and stuck to its original dogma and so never evolved into something more civilised hence what you see now. Some of its followers may have made personal adaptations to progress but its obvious from the way some of their nations are run that mostly they havn't.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2014 9:00:28 GMT
The BBC is an insidious war propaganda tool, culpably responsible for the deaths of innocents and of soldiers by getting the public to believe in war.
For those with religious belief in this appalling paedo organisation, here they are setting up, faking and scripting from beginning to end an attack in Syria to get the public to back more slaughter and conquest.
Here's some analysis.
The cuddly Auntie Beeb getting the public to back the slaughter of thousands of innocents, and soldiers to sacrifice their lives by using lies, fakery, deception and propaganda.
People just want the soundbites from their news and the BBC are masters in moulding the public's view of the world. They know exactly how to play the public and they do it in an insidious way, with their usual air of superiority.
A few carefully scripted words over the right images is extremely powerful.
Coming to you soon - footage of ninjas on the back of trucks, shooting into the air...
All the world's a stage.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 15, 2014 9:05:51 GMT
Again, I agree with (some of) your points, but using Russia Today to back up your propaganda message beggars belief.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2014 9:09:25 GMT
Again, I agree with (some of) your points, but using Russia Today to back up your propaganda message beggars belief. I would have posted without any analysis because the fakery of the video speaks for itself. They do, however, highlight some of the glaring issues for those who don't wish to bother with the whole report.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 10:50:28 GMT
The BBC is an insidious war propaganda tool, culpably responsible for the deaths of innocents and of soldiers by getting the public to believe in war. For those with religious belief in this appalling paedo organisation, here they are setting up, faking and scripting from beginning to end an attack in Syria to get the public to back more slaughter and conquest. Here's some analysis. The cuddly Auntie Beeb getting the public to back the slaughter of thousands of innocents, and soldiers to sacrifice their lives by using lies, fakery, deception and propaganda. People just want the soundbites from their news and the BBC are masters in moulding the public's view of the world. They know exactly how to play the public and they do it in an insidious way, with their usual air of superiority. A few carefully scripted words over the right images is extremely powerful. Coming to you soon - footage of ninjas on the back of trucks, shooting into the air... All the world's a stage. speechless
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 10:53:29 GMT
Again, I agree with (some of) your points, but using Russia Today to back up your propaganda message beggars belief. I would have posted without any analysis because the fakery of the video speaks for itself. They do, however, highlight some of the glaring issues for those who don't wish to bother with the whole report. so the bbc were wrong to report on the murder of lee rigby? wake up people we are at war wether we like it or not. muslims are infiltrating every town and city in the western world and their mantra is to convert everyone to islam.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2014 10:58:57 GMT
I would have posted without any analysis because the fakery of the video speaks for itself. They do, however, highlight some of the glaring issues for those who don't wish to bother with the whole report. so the bbc were wrong to report on the murder of lee rigby? wake up people we are at war wether we like it or not. muslims are infiltrating every town and city in the western world and their mantra is to convert everyone to islam. You are wasting your time. Their are too many owned idiots out there who will come up with something to try and make you out to be the irrational one.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 15, 2014 11:00:42 GMT
Its the PC way. Islamics decapitate people and its always someone elses fault. Left wing filth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:09:55 GMT
In this instance it is our fault, yours and mine for electing the idiots who've got us into this mess. Tough to swallow but there it is. Not me. As ive stated on another thread about politics, I turn up at the polling station but spoil the paper as none of the pricks on it deserve my endorsement. Dmocratic duty is turning up, not voting for one specific idiot. As for those who maintain that these scum bags have nothing to do with islam. It's bullshit. Look at the two major religions. Christianity used to be a religion of killing and death. At some point somebody woke up and realised that people needed something to get them to advance without all the conflict so they introduced this guy called Jesus who was the total opposite and was benevolent and so things all evolved in a hunky dory fashion, with his followers following his instruction to love etc. Islam didnt do that and stuck to its original dogma and so never evolved into something more civilised hence what you see now. Some of its followers may have made personal adaptations to progress but its obvious from the way some of their nations are run that mostly they havn't. i'm confused here desman.......are you not aware of the fact that Christianity didn't even exist BEFORE they "introduced this guy called Jesus" and that the Christian atrocities mainly came over a thousand years AFTER his death and the start of Christianity???? bizarre to say the least
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:32:20 GMT
typical ungreatfull altitude from certain ppl in Iraq. we sacrifice many Lives to free them from Sadamm ,send aid when there in the shit and this is how we are repayed. absolute piss take
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2014 11:42:30 GMT
Not me. As ive stated on another thread about politics, I turn up at the polling station but spoil the paper as none of the pricks on it deserve my endorsement. Dmocratic duty is turning up, not voting for one specific idiot. As for those who maintain that these scum bags have nothing to do with islam. It's bullshit. Look at the two major religions. Christianity used to be a religion of killing and death. At some point somebody woke up and realised that people needed something to get them to advance without all the conflict so they introduced this guy called Jesus who was the total opposite and was benevolent and so things all evolved in a hunky dory fashion, with his followers following his instruction to love etc. Islam didnt do that and stuck to its original dogma and so never evolved into something more civilised hence what you see now. Some of its followers may have made personal adaptations to progress but its obvious from the way some of their nations are run that mostly they havn't. i'm confused here desman.......are you not aware of the fact that Christianity didn't even exist BEFORE they "introduced this guy called Jesus" and that the Christian atrocities mainly came over a thousand years AFTER his death and the start of Christianity???? bizarre to say the least I did say it used to be before good old Jesus came along. Maybe I could have worded it better, and yes their were atrocities carried out by "christians" but you'll find they were commited on the old testament fundamentals, and not on the new testament.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 11:58:17 GMT
i'm confused here desman.......are you not aware of the fact that Christianity didn't even exist BEFORE they "introduced this guy called Jesus" and that the Christian atrocities mainly came over a thousand years AFTER his death and the start of Christianity???? bizarre to say the least I did say it used to be before good old Jesus came along. Maybe I could have worded it better, and yes their were atrocities carried out by "christians" but you'll find they were committed on the old testament fundamentals, and not on the new testament. that's the point though......the atrocities weren't because anyone was committed to old testament fundamentals. things like the Crusades were sod all to do with religion, they were simply about power, wealth, territory and greed and simply cherry picked certain passages from The Bible in a desperate attempt to give their actions some kind of validity...in other words, exactly what the Islamic fundamentalists are doing nowadays. if anyone genuinely believes that any of these actions (either back then by the Christians or now by "Islamists") are actually and genuinely religiously motivated then they're just extremely naive! it's the same with basically ALL wars, it's human nature that's the problem. even if religion didn't exist you'd have just as many wars but people would find other excuses to blame it on and with which to validate their actions! people (and other primates, not just us) want power, we want to be better, more important and have more land than everyone else, religion simply gives people a nice and acceptable way in which to dress up their own selfishness and greed and it's certainly not anything that's exclusive to Islam or Christianity as most other religions have committed outrageous acts of barbarity in the name of religion that completely contradict their religion's teachings. staggered that people still buy into it (although nowadays they tend to only buy into it when it's Islam that's involved as that's the fashionable one to slag off nowadays) it's not about Islam, it's not about Christianity; it's simply about the individual groups that have carried out atrocious and unforgivable crimes. for people to actually blame the religion in itself simply shows a lack of understanding, complete hypocrisy (given the sheer amount of despicable crimes carried out by Christians and other religions over the centuries) and a willingness to simply label it all under one generic name (Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Sikhism/Hinduism - delete as applicable) because that's easier. it's just misplaced and lazy IMO
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2014 12:10:43 GMT
This guy has views on religion. Starts after about 3 minutes
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2014 12:30:19 GMT
typical ungreatfull altitude from certain ppl in Iraq. we sacrifice many Lives to free them from Sadamm ,send aid when there in the shit and this is how we are repayed. absolute piss take I presume you are taking the piss?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 12:40:46 GMT
I did say it used to be before good old Jesus came along. Maybe I could have worded it better, and yes their were atrocities carried out by "christians" but you'll find they were committed on the old testament fundamentals, and not on the new testament. that's the point though......the atrocities weren't because anyone was committed to old testament fundamentals. things like the Crusades were sod all to do with religion, they were simply about power, wealth, territory and greed and simply cherry picked certain passages from The Bible in a desperate attempt to give their actions some kind of validity...in other words, exactly what the Islamic fundamentalists are doing nowadays. if anyone genuinely believes that any of these actions (either back then by the Christians or now by "Islamists") are actually and genuinely religiously motivated then they're just extremely naive! it's the same with basically ALL wars, it's human nature that's the problem. even if religion didn't exist you'd have just as many wars but people would find other excuses to blame it on and with which to validate their actions! people (and other primates, not just us) want power, we wantp to be better, more important and have more land than everyone else, religion simply gives people a nice and acceptable way in which to dress up their own selfishness and greed and it's certainly not anything that's exclusive to Islam or Christianity as most other religions have committed outrageous acts of barbarity in the name of religion that completely contradict their religion's teachings. staggered that people still buy into it (although nowadays they tend to only buy into it when it's Islam that's involved as that's the fashionable one to slag off nowadays) it's not about Islam, it's not about Christianity; it's simply about the individual groups that have carried out atrocious and unforgivable crimes. for people to actually blame the religion in itself simply shows a lack of understanding, complete hypocrisy (given the sheer amount of despicable crimes carried out by Christians and other religions over the centuries) and a willingness to simply label it all under one generic name (Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Sikhism/Hinduism - delete as applicable) because that's easier. it's just misplaced and lazy IMO You could well be right about blaming religion for these callous acts of killing and cruelty. In view of this , and in view of the several nationalities involved under the Isis flag it may be better to simply use the term "fuzzies" as a collective noun for a shower of shit , rather than individually naming some particular race or nationality. No doubt this would also make some unhappy......so we just can't win......
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 15, 2014 12:50:31 GMT
so the bbc were wrong to report on the murder of lee rigby? wake up people we are at war wether we like it or not. muslims are infiltrating every town and city in the western world and their mantra is to convert everyone to islam. You are wasting your time. Their are too many owned idiots out there who will come up with something to try and make you out to be the irrational one. No I really don't think there is any need to try and make either of you look irrational, you're doing a fairly "good" job yourself
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 14:03:53 GMT
typical ungreatfull altitude from certain ppl in Iraq. we sacrifice many Lives to free them from Sadamm ,send aid when there in the shit and this is how we are repayed. absolute piss take I presume you are taking the piss? no mate looking at ur comments above i think it must be You takin the piss ? brit Army did a gud job in Iraq and afghan , uK has tryed its best to help the mideast but gets thrrewn back in our face!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 14:50:16 GMT
I presume you are taking the piss? no mate looking at ur comments above i think it must be You takin the piss ? brit Army did a gud job in Iraq and afghan , uK has tryed its best to help the mideast but gets thrrewn back in our face! i don't think he's having a go at the British army mate....no-one has any problem with them as they're just doing what they're told to do and i think we all agree that we have respect in abundance for the armed forces and men and women out there risking their lives. i think he was commenting more on the fact that if you believe genuinely that the Governments that got their collective brains together and decided to send all our troops out there did so to "help out the middle east" then you're living in cloud cuckoo land!!! as i said, that's NO disrespect to those that have gone out there and been injured or lost their lives, it's just that most feel it was a completely unjustified way to treat the servicemen and women of this country; basically being lied to and fed shit about the good they're apparently doing for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan whilst in reality doing nothing more than trying to line the pockets of the rich and corrupt (the UK and US governments that is, not the forces actually being sent out to do that dirty work)
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Post by salopstick on Sept 15, 2014 14:54:32 GMT
however the same old culprits would rather focus blame on foreign policy, conglomorates ans the new world order than condemn people for vile cowardly acts
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 15:05:18 GMT
however the same old culprits would rather focus blame on foreign policy, conglomorates ans the new world order than condemn people for vile cowardly acts spot on salop, individual people that get together to form individual groups are to blame. we can't be held responsible for their actions and whoever we voted for there will always be people around like this unfortunately. it would seem nowadays that ifyou individually commit a crime then you're scum but as long as you attach some name to yourself then you can say it's political and then apparently it's our fault! maybe Pistorius may have done better if he'd said he did it on behalf of ISIS and then he'd be blameless and it'd be my fault for voting in a particular way 4 years ago!!!
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