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Mac Users
Sept 3, 2014 21:07:53 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 3, 2014 21:07:53 GMT
They can. You'll want to use VMware or Virtual box, and enable some specific things. Google has loads of tutorials for this, all the way up to OS X 10.9. Cheers! No problem. I'll set up a VM myself tomorrow and set one up and take some screenshots.
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Mac Users
Sept 5, 2014 4:02:44 GMT
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 5, 2014 4:02:44 GMT
I have both. The Mac is great if youre using it within Apples carefully defined parameters, otherwise its junk. Ill never buy another.
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 15:12:17 GMT
I have both. The Mac is great if youre using it within Apples carefully defined parameters, otherwise its junk. Ill never buy another. I've been using and configuring Macs an PC's in a mixed network environment since 1989. I'm not much for computers these days but PC's are fucking shite. They're still years behind. Try using Photoshop on a PC, then try it on a Mac. Same program, but there is no comparison in feel. Command prompt or Terminal? Again, no comparison. Mac has the power of UNIX under the hood. I don't like the walled garden and I don't use hardly any of Apples proprietary software. The quality of Apple screens, keyboard and mice pisses all over anything to do with a PC. If you care about the quality of life you spend online or when computing, then you'll be using a Mac.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 16:31:02 GMT
I have both. The Mac is great if youre using it within Apples carefully defined parameters, otherwise its junk. Ill never buy another. I've been using and configuring Macs an PC's in a mixed network environment since 1989. I'm not much for computers these days but PC's are fucking shite. They're still years behind. Try using Photoshop on a PC, then try it on a Mac. Same program, but there is no comparison in feel. Command prompt or Terminal? Again, no comparison. Mac has the power of UNIX under the hood. I don't like the walled garden and I don't use hardly any of Apples proprietary software. The quality of Apple screens, keyboard and mice pisses all over anything to do with a PC. If you care about the quality of life you spend online or when computing, then you'll be using a Mac. I will give you the one about Terminal. It's so damn powerful compared to Command Prompt built in Windows today. Gone are the days of DOS 6.22. Apple screens, keyboard and mice are nice. But, how about the Dell UP2414Q? Fantastic 4k monitor, that can be used on PC. Not to mention the 4k TV's and 1080p TV's and Monitors that can be used. Apple's are nice but there are alternatives. Mice and Keyboard, you only have to look at some of the gaming keyboard and mice available to see how good some of them are. I don't doubt Apple's build quality, it's fantastic. I just feel the price is a bit much. Lower it a bit and you have an almost perfect product. I'm still trying to patch VM-Ware to get ML running but Avira is detecting false positives.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 16:59:14 GMT
Here is Mountain Lion 10.8 working on a VM. Get a good graphics driver installed and fix the resolution and it's good to go in Unity mode.
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 17:20:30 GMT
I've been using and configuring Macs an PC's in a mixed network environment since 1989. I'm not much for computers these days but PC's are fucking shite. They're still years behind. Try using Photoshop on a PC, then try it on a Mac. Same program, but there is no comparison in feel. Command prompt or Terminal? Again, no comparison. Mac has the power of UNIX under the hood. I don't like the walled garden and I don't use hardly any of Apples proprietary software. The quality of Apple screens, keyboard and mice pisses all over anything to do with a PC. If you care about the quality of life you spend online or when computing, then you'll be using a Mac. I will give you the one about Terminal. It's so damn powerful compared to Command Prompt built in Windows today. Gone are the days of DOS 6.22. Apple screens, keyboard and mice are nice. But, how about the Dell UP2414Q? Fantastic 4k monitor, that can be used on PC. Not to mention the 4k TV's and 1080p TV's and Monitors that can be used. Apple's are nice but there are alternatives. Mice and Keyboard, you only have to look at some of the gaming keyboard and mice available to see how good some of them are. I don't doubt Apple's build quality, it's fantastic. I just feel the price is a bit much. Lower it a bit and you have an almost perfect product. I'm still trying to patch VM-Ware to get ML running but Avira is detecting false positives. Is there a PC equivalent to a 13" MacBook Pro Retina these days? There's so much super-smart industrial design inside the casings as well. The cooling ducting inside my Pro Retina is an absolute work of art. I'm somebody that really cares about nano detail. I adore the fact that they are totally silent too. The 11" Macbook Air is a total joy as well. I don't think there's anything quite like it elsewhere, is there? Infinitely superior to my iPad. And the new MacPro is ingenious. The tri-vection blade design is a triumph. Apple make the real thing, although I certainly don't like everything they do, the standard OS is bloated and the way Cupertino attempts to impose it's user philosophy on the user (that's not always their call) is OK for teenagers, but all these little benefits and improvements in hardware plus the power of UNIX make a huge difference in the final usability stakes and custom settings. if you want them. Just better. The Mac has always had a cheery personality too, glad to say that's still there. And yes, they are a little pricey and are maybe lacking some of the old exclusivity these days, but the user experience of a Mac is simply light and airy. Anyone who uses both platforms on an equal time split will tell you the same. I always feel a reliable disappointment every time I have to sit at a PC terminal, even if I do agree that Windows 7 is a decent OS these days. In terms of security, well everything is an open door these days. There is no security on any platform. My mail was in fact hacked earlier today and remote logins happen all the time. Shit happens, i'm over it. What are you using your VM's for these days?
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 17:22:36 GMT
Here is Mountain Lion 10.8 working on a VM. Get a good graphics driver installed and fix the resolution and it's good to go in Unity mode. Very nice. Can you do the same trick with Mavericks... Why do you have Merlin the Magician Mick Mills as your avatar? I was running a beta of Yosemite too on another machine recently, seems as though Apple are burying Sudo at a rate of knots, not easy to keep up with the CLI syntax either these days if you're not a registered developer, which is now $100.
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 17:28:41 GMT
I have both. The Mac is great if youre using it within Apples carefully defined parameters, otherwise its junk. Ill never buy another. Sounds like you need to get into a spot of command line configuration Brits.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 17:36:43 GMT
I will give you the one about Terminal. It's so damn powerful compared to Command Prompt built in Windows today. Gone are the days of DOS 6.22. Apple screens, keyboard and mice are nice. But, how about the Dell UP2414Q? Fantastic 4k monitor, that can be used on PC. Not to mention the 4k TV's and 1080p TV's and Monitors that can be used. Apple's are nice but there are alternatives. Mice and Keyboard, you only have to look at some of the gaming keyboard and mice available to see how good some of them are. I don't doubt Apple's build quality, it's fantastic. I just feel the price is a bit much. Lower it a bit and you have an almost perfect product. I'm still trying to patch VM-Ware to get ML running but Avira is detecting false positives. Is there a PC equivalent to a 13" MacBook Pro Retina these days? There's so much super-smart industrial design inside the casings as well. The cooling ducting inside my Pro Retina is an absolute work of art. I'm somebody that really cares about nano detail. I adore the fact that they are totally silent too. The 11" Macbook Air is a total joy as well. I don't think there's anything quite like it elsewhere, is there? Infinitely superior to my iPad. And the new MacPro is ingenious. The tri-vection blade design is a triumph. Apple make the real thing, although I certainly don't like everything they do, the standard OS is bloated and the way Cupertino attempts to impose it's user philosophy on the user (that's not always their call) is OK for teenagers, but all these little benefits and improvements in hardware plus the power of UNIX make a huge difference in the final usability stakes and custom settings. if you want them. Just better. The Mac has always had a cheery personality too, glad to say that's still there. And yes, they are a little pricey and are maybe lacking some of the old exclusivity these days, but the user experience of a Mac is simply light and airy. Anyone who uses both platforms on an equal time split will tell you the same. I always feel a reliable disappointment every time I have to sit at a PC terminal, even if I do agree that Windows 7 is a decent OS these days. In terms of security, well everything is an open door these days. There is no security on any platform. My mail was in fact hacked earlier today and remote logins happen all the time. Shit happens, i'm over it. What are you using your VM's for these days? MBP Retina I'll agree are beautiful in design. It's the one apple product that I'll be honest, I wish I owned! If I had a couple of months with Mac, I think there is a good chance I'd like it. I'm so used to running Windows atm, that I've never given it a fair chance. I guess I should run a hackintosh partition and give the UI a good go. And I have VM's set up with old OSes so I can play some legacy games and software, though I mainly use DOSBox more than anything for that. Or Glide Wrapper. And for the second quote, there is one for Mavericks. It pretty much uses the same workaround as ML. For AMD processors, there is a VMX workaround patch too. I can upload the ML VMware image to MEGA if you'd like to test it out?
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Post by neworleanstokie on Sept 5, 2014 17:52:12 GMT
Using a 13" Mac Book Pro Retina 2.5 Ghz Intel Core i5 with 8GB of memory running OSX. 2 years old but still good as new. Also using iPad, iPhone, Time Machine and Apple TV. It just makes my life easier!
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 18:08:23 GMT
Is there a PC equivalent to a 13" MacBook Pro Retina these days? There's so much super-smart industrial design inside the casings as well. The cooling ducting inside my Pro Retina is an absolute work of art. I'm somebody that really cares about nano detail. I adore the fact that they are totally silent too. The 11" Macbook Air is a total joy as well. I don't think there's anything quite like it elsewhere, is there? Infinitely superior to my iPad. And the new MacPro is ingenious. The tri-vection blade design is a triumph. Apple make the real thing, although I certainly don't like everything they do, the standard OS is bloated and the way Cupertino attempts to impose it's user philosophy on the user (that's not always their call) is OK for teenagers, but all these little benefits and improvements in hardware plus the power of UNIX make a huge difference in the final usability stakes and custom settings. if you want them. Just better. The Mac has always had a cheery personality too, glad to say that's still there. And yes, they are a little pricey and are maybe lacking some of the old exclusivity these days, but the user experience of a Mac is simply light and airy. Anyone who uses both platforms on an equal time split will tell you the same. I always feel a reliable disappointment every time I have to sit at a PC terminal, even if I do agree that Windows 7 is a decent OS these days. In terms of security, well everything is an open door these days. There is no security on any platform. My mail was in fact hacked earlier today and remote logins happen all the time. Shit happens, i'm over it. What are you using your VM's for these days? MBP Retina I'll agree are beautiful in design. It's the one apple product that I'll be honest, I wish I owned! If I had a couple of months with Mac, I think there is a good chance I'd like it. I'm so used to running Windows atm, that I've never given it a fair chance. I guess I should run a hackintosh partition and give the UI a good go. And I have VM's set up with old OSes so I can play some legacy games and software, though I mainly use DOSBox more than anything for that. Or Glide Wrapper. And for the second quote, there is one for Mavericks. It pretty much uses the same workaround as ML. For AMD processors, there is a VMX workaround patch too. I can upload the ML VMware image to MEGA if you'd like to test it out? I'll be honest with you, I don't have a need for VM's and i've got pretty much everything set up the way I want it at the moment. But thanks for the offer. Another time maybe, i'll come back to you for support if that's OK though?
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 18:13:41 GMT
Using a 13" Mac Book Pro Retina 2.5 Ghz Intel Core i5 with 8GB of memory running OSX. 2 years old but still good as new. Also using iPad, iPhone, Time Machine and Apple TV. It just makes my life easier! My 15" MacBook Pro has 16GB, 500GB SSID (over Apple spec., runs a bit hot) and 2.3Mhz i7 from 2011 running 10.9. Mavericks needs 16GB - it still feels like a brand new machine with that much RAM.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 18:28:07 GMT
MBP Retina I'll agree are beautiful in design. It's the one apple product that I'll be honest, I wish I owned! If I had a couple of months with Mac, I think there is a good chance I'd like it. I'm so used to running Windows atm, that I've never given it a fair chance. I guess I should run a hackintosh partition and give the UI a good go. And I have VM's set up with old OSes so I can play some legacy games and software, though I mainly use DOSBox more than anything for that. Or Glide Wrapper. And for the second quote, there is one for Mavericks. It pretty much uses the same workaround as ML. For AMD processors, there is a VMX workaround patch too. I can upload the ML VMware image to MEGA if you'd like to test it out? I'll be honest with you, I don't have a need for VM's and i've got pretty much everything set up the way I want it at the moment. But thanks for the offer. Another time maybe, i'll come back to you for support if that's OK though? No problem mate. I'll probably be experimenting with a newer OS X on there anyway so it gives me time to get some newer support incase you ever need it anyway. I'm going to wait until Yosemite comes out of Developer Preview before I try with that.
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 18:29:55 GMT
I'll be honest with you, I don't have a need for VM's and i've got pretty much everything set up the way I want it at the moment. But thanks for the offer. Another time maybe, i'll come back to you for support if that's OK though? No problem mate. I'll probably be experimenting with a newer OS X on there anyway so it gives me time to get some newer support incase you ever need it anyway. I'm going to wait until Yosemite comes out of Developer Preview before I try with that. So why MM in the avatar?
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 18:31:25 GMT
No problem mate. I'll probably be experimenting with a newer OS X on there anyway so it gives me time to get some newer support incase you ever need it anyway. I'm going to wait until Yosemite comes out of Developer Preview before I try with that. So why MM in the avatar? I don't know really. Googled for funny football gifs and that came up so I thought why not
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 18:34:04 GMT
I don't know really. Googled for funny football gifs and that came up so I thought why not Are you a Stoke fan?
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 18:35:36 GMT
I don't know really. Googled for funny football gifs and that came up so I thought why not Are you a Stoke fan? Yep!
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 19:02:26 GMT
Where are you based? You can ask me a few questions if you like...
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 19:13:02 GMT
Where are you based? You can ask me a few questions if you like... Stoke, don't ask where the username came from, it was just random. Where in Thailand are you based?
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 19:23:23 GMT
Where are you based? You can ask me a few questions if you like... Stoke, don't ask where the username came from, it was just random. Where in Thailand are you based? In Hua Hin, about 130 miles south of Bangkok. What applications and where do you deploy your virtual machines?
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 19:36:01 GMT
Stoke, don't ask where the username came from, it was just random. Where in Thailand are you based? In Hua Hin, about 130 miles south of Bangkok. What applications and where do you deploy your virtual machines? I don't use the VM's in a professional perspective. I'd say I'm more an enthusiast on preserving and using old Operating Systems and software. Due to the lack of good drivers for a virtual Win98se GPU, I can't use it too much. What I am planning though, is using VM's to test out old viruses for DOS and 9x. Use a network share to get the files, then disable network share on VMware to close the link down so I can run them. Don't want them spreading. They also help me to try out a new Windows with an evaluation ISO before I commit to installing on my physical system. I'm interested in setting up an old desktop that can support up to 98se, or laptop, so I can move away from Virtual Machines and test stuff out on an actual system.
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Post by ************** on Sept 5, 2014 19:51:45 GMT
In Hua Hin, about 130 miles south of Bangkok. What applications and where do you deploy your virtual machines? I don't use the VM's in a professional perspective. I'd say I'm more an enthusiast on preserving and using old Operating Systems and software. Due to the lack of good drivers for a virtual Win98se GPU, I can't use it too much. What I am planning though, is using VM's to test out old viruses for DOS and 9x. Use a network share to get the files, then disable network share on VMware to close the link down so I can run them. Don't want them spreading. They also help me to try out a new Windows with an evaluation ISO before I commit to installing on my physical system. I'm interested in setting up an old desktop that can support up to 98se, or laptop, so I can move away from Virtual Machines and test stuff out on an actual system. That's interesting. I've got rid of few broken old Macs kicking around back home and i've still got my old IIci from 1990? That last ran with System7 and I loved it. It was my office computer for quotes and invoices until 1996. I think it was about 4500UK when it was new, I got it in 1993. Beautiful thing SCSI, 640 x 480 SVGA, AppleSuperdrive, 10Base-T ethernet Nubus card, 500Kb RAM. Really well engineered. Plug in a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 modem and you were away!
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 5, 2014 20:03:57 GMT
I don't use the VM's in a professional perspective. I'd say I'm more an enthusiast on preserving and using old Operating Systems and software. Due to the lack of good drivers for a virtual Win98se GPU, I can't use it too much. What I am planning though, is using VM's to test out old viruses for DOS and 9x. Use a network share to get the files, then disable network share on VMware to close the link down so I can run them. Don't want them spreading. They also help me to try out a new Windows with an evaluation ISO before I commit to installing on my physical system. I'm interested in setting up an old desktop that can support up to 98se, or laptop, so I can move away from Virtual Machines and test stuff out on an actual system. That's interesting. I've got rid of few broken old Macs kicking around back home and i've still got my old IIci from 1990? That last ran with System7 and I loved it. It was my office computer for quotes and invoices until 1996. I think it was about 4500UK when it was new, I got it in 1993. Beautiful thing SCSI, 640 x 480 SVGA, AppleSuperdrive, 10Base-T ethernet Nubus card, 500Kb RAM. Really well engineered. Plug in a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 modem and you were away! A 14.4 modem. Good lord how technology has come on
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Post by Moosehead on Sept 5, 2014 23:49:43 GMT
I don't know really. Googled for funny football gifs and that came up so I thought why not From a great video of MM's press conferences 'http://www.goandgetyourselffettled.com'
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Post by ************** on Sept 6, 2014 8:02:03 GMT
I don't know really. Googled for funny football gifs and that came up so I thought why not From a great video of MM's press conferences 'http://www.goandgetyourselffettled.com' That's brilliant Moose. Deserves its own thread - go on, get it done.
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Post by justlookin on Sept 6, 2014 9:56:38 GMT
Anybody have any tips? I'm using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2.3GHz i5, 4GB 1333MHz DDR3. It's 2 and a half years old, I still think its fantastic but I've noticed in the last few months its slowed down quite a bit. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Post by ************** on Sept 6, 2014 10:11:55 GMT
Anybody have any tips? I'm using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2.3GHz i5, 4GB 1333MHz DDR3. It's 2 and a half years old, I still think its fantastic but I've noticed in the last few months its slowed down quite a bit. Any help would be much appreciated. You based in Stoke?
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Post by justlookin on Sept 6, 2014 10:28:30 GMT
Anybody have any tips? I'm using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2.3GHz i5, 4GB 1333MHz DDR3. It's 2 and a half years old, I still think its fantastic but I've noticed in the last few months its slowed down quite a bit. Any help would be much appreciated. You based in Stoke? Yes I am.
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Post by ************** on Sept 6, 2014 10:34:24 GMT
Go and see Simon at Stokes oldest and best Apple service centre in Chesterton. Sounds like you need your HD zeroing and 10.9.3 reloading. The cunt charged me 2 hours last time, should only be 1 hour - 48 quid. Clean start = fast Mac. Get some extra RAM too.
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Post by ************** on Sept 6, 2014 10:37:19 GMT
Go and see Simon at Stokes oldest and best Apple service centre in Chesterton. Sounds like you need your HD zeroing and 10.9.3 reloading. The cunt charged me 2 hours last time, should only be 1 hour - 48 quid. Clean start = fast Mac. Get some extra RAM too. If you don't want to spend the cash I can walk you through a boot USB creation and clean install. I'll insist on a tenner to the DLT though.
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