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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 3, 2015 9:52:57 GMT
We must be the lowest spenders in the league now. The job Hughes and his Staff are doing is nothing short of remarkable. Very true but, we are sailing very close to the wind in terms of cover and quality.
That said, I'd feel more comfortable supporting this approach if I knew for a fact that it was because we are waiting for real quality.
So we're back to the proverbial "proper signings in the Summer" scenario.
No pressure then Carto.
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Post by kurt on Feb 3, 2015 9:56:21 GMT
We don´t need Lennon...we have a strong team and enough quality players to beat everyone!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 9:57:08 GMT
We needed one this window but if Moses goes in the summer, as looks likely, we will definitely need two. What's frightening, is that this is fourth consecutive 'window' we've spent nothing! The gaps in the team: striker, 2 wingers, DM still remain. Most clubs use 'windows' to build player-by-player so this is a big missed opportunity yet again! Without turning this into a Tony Pulis thread as it's not, the club were operating at 90% wage v turnover when Hughes came along which is not only unsustainable but it's bloody dangerous. If we want self sufficiency going forward we need to be buying talent from abroad with a potential resale value, and the January window is not the time to do that in my opinion. I have no doubt Hughes and his scouting team will be very busy between now and the summer and that's the time to shell out on big money transfer fees or Bosman transfers
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 3, 2015 9:57:17 GMT
We must be the lowest spenders in the league now. The job Hughes and his Staff are doing is nothing short of remarkable. Very true but, we are sailing very close to the wind in terms of cover and quality.
That said, I'd feel more comfortable supporting this approach if I knew for a fact that it was because we are waiting for real quality.
So we're back to the proverbial "proper signings in the Summer" scenario.
No pressure then Carto. It all pangs of "jam Tomorrow"'again for me. We've been financially constrained one way or another since Pulis last window. Keep hearing that money is available "for the right players" but I'm not convinced.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 3, 2015 10:01:54 GMT
Very true but, we are sailing very close to the wind in terms of cover and quality.
That said, I'd feel more comfortable supporting this approach if I knew for a fact that it was because we are waiting for real quality.
So we're back to the proverbial "proper signings in the Summer" scenario.
No pressure then Carto. It all pangs of "jam Tomorrow"'again for me. We've been financially constrained one way or another since Pulis last window. Keep hearing that money is available "for the right players" but I'm not convinced. Exactly.
It's game on for Carto to find them, Hughes et al to persuade them, and Pete / Denise / John (Jon?) to fund them.
We really had better start now.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 3, 2015 10:02:27 GMT
What's frightening, is that this is fourth consecutive 'window' we've spent nothing! The gaps in the team: striker, 2 wingers, DM still remain. Most clubs use 'windows' to build player-by-player so this is a big missed opportunity yet again! Without turning this into a Tony Pulis thread as it's not, the club were operating at 90% wage v turnover when Hughes came along which is not only unsustainable but it's bloody dangerous. If we want self sufficiency going forward we need to be buying talent from abroad with a potential resale value, and the January window is not the time to do that in my opinion. I have no doubt Hughes and his scouting team will be very busy between now and the summer and that's the time to shell out on big money transfer fees or Bosman transfers Your solution is to ensure we go from having a high proportion of English players in the team to one of the lowest in 'The Prem'. Your strategy comes with risks too!
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 3, 2015 10:02:29 GMT
The club are trying tot rebalance the books after 5 years of overspending. Hughes did seem prepared to push the boat out for Lennon but he was not going to take a risk on unproven players like the lad at Blues.
The fact that Lennon was not given assurances about first team football shows the faith the manager has in the players he already has and I agree with him that Aaron Lennon would not be a definite starter. Moses,Walters and Arnie have all done as much as Lennon this season; add to that lot the job Diouf has done when needed and can anyone really say we NEED a fast runner with very little end product and limited defensive ability as one of our top earners?
We are, like any team, susceptible to a few injuries but with Adam and Sidwell available I expect we would play an extra body in the middle and forsake a winger if necessary.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Feb 3, 2015 10:07:49 GMT
The club are trying tot rebalance the books after 5 years of overspending. Hughes did seem prepared to push the boat out for Lennon but he was not going to take a risk on unproven players like the lad at Blues. The fact that Lennon was not given assurances about first team football shows the faith the manager has in the players he already has and I agree with him that Aaron Lennon would not be a definite starter. Moses,Walters and Arnie have all done as much as Lennon this season; add to that lot the job Diouf has done when needed and can anyone really say we NEED a fast runner with very little end product and limited defensive ability as one of our top earners? We are, like any team, susceptible to a few injuries but with Adam and Sidwell available I expect we would play an extra body in the middle and forsake a winger if necessary. The books have been re-balanced now! We're operating at no-loss currently. Surely, one player wasn't going to ruin us financially?
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Post by davethebass on Feb 3, 2015 10:10:06 GMT
Was making light of it earlier and laughing it off, but I was disappointed lennon chose everton. Think we'll be alright with what we've got though, and I'd rather that than panic buy. Hughes teams always improve 2nd half of season don't forget, maybe the play of the "front three" will become more fluid as things click, them the terms "striker" and "winger" become less meaningful.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:12:30 GMT
Without turning this into a Tony Pulis thread as it's not, the club were operating at 90% wage v turnover when Hughes came along which is not only unsustainable but it's bloody dangerous. If we want self sufficiency going forward we need to be buying talent from abroad with a potential resale value, and the January window is not the time to do that in my opinion. I have no doubt Hughes and his scouting team will be very busy between now and the summer and that's the time to shell out on big money transfer fees or Bosman transfers Your solution is to ensure we go from having a high proportion of English players in the team to one of the lowest in 'The Prem'. Your strategy comes with risks too! English players are generally a rip off though. It's about value for money and that comes from abroad in the main. Every transfer comes with a risk ultimately.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 3, 2015 11:30:53 GMT
We must be the lowest spenders in the league now. The job Hughes and his Staff are doing is nothing short of remarkable. I agree, Pugs. Even teams who are doing well like Southampton have spent pretty big to get where they are. Hughes must be the best manager points gained to pounds spent in the Premier League, surely?
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 3, 2015 11:39:40 GMT
We must be the lowest spenders in the league now. The job Hughes and his Staff are doing is nothing short of remarkable. I agree, Pugs. Even teams who are doing well like Southampton have spent pretty big to get where they are. Hughes must be the best manager points gained to pounds spent in the Premier League, surely? Hughes has done a magnificent job on shoestring budget. When you compare to what Bruce is doing at Hull having spent an absolute fortune it makes you thankful for what we've got.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 3, 2015 11:41:24 GMT
Not worried that we got no players in yesterday, but hope MH gets the financial backing to improve the squad for the start of next season.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 3, 2015 11:42:39 GMT
We must be the lowest spenders in the league now. The job Hughes and his Staff are doing is nothing short of remarkable. I agree, Pugs. Even teams who are doing well like Southampton have spent pretty big to get where they are. Hughes must be the best manager points gained to pounds spent in the Premier League, surely? Southampton have managed to sell pretty big too over the last 5 years or more. Investment in their academy has produced Walcott, Oxlade-Chambo, Shaw, Chambers, Lallana etc. In the same period we produced Ryan Shotton and Carl Dickinson. Ignoring our youth development has cost us millions. We are lucky steps have been taken recently to rectify that neglect.
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Post by slother on Feb 3, 2015 11:53:05 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 3, 2015 11:56:15 GMT
I think any transfer window that we manage to keep hold of Bego, Shawcross and now Bojan has to be considered a success to be honest
Would have been nice to bring in a Lennon, Troure or another striker, but the best time is summer, (Beattie and Matty E excepted) so they can gel with their new team mates
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Post by nott1 on Feb 3, 2015 12:03:31 GMT
With a full squad free from injury, Lennon would have been lucky to warm the bench. We have had a lucky escape from the Dynamic Blunderer!
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 3, 2015 12:08:51 GMT
With a full squad free from injury, Lennon would have been lucky to warm the bench. We have had a lucky escape from the Dynamic Blunderer! agreed, other than pace I can't see that he is that great to be honest
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Post by michelle1863 on Feb 3, 2015 12:11:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 12:12:21 GMT
I was quite relaxed about losing Lennon last night. A touchline hugging winger who doesn't score many goals might have worked well under the Pulis system, but I wondered what he'd bring to us.
A little less relaxed when I heard Jenas, Murphy and Neville waxing lyrical about him, saying that he was a great finisher and a number 10 waiting to be unleashed.
He clearly wasn't keen on Stoke though, for whatever reason, so probably a good thing that he's not here thinking he's too good for us.
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Post by michelle1863 on Feb 3, 2015 12:12:58 GMT
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Post by michelle1863 on Feb 3, 2015 12:19:39 GMT
I'd be really pissed if he was pulling that face in a Stoke shirt TBH!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 3, 2015 12:24:17 GMT
I agree, Pugs. Even teams who are doing well like Southampton have spent pretty big to get where they are. Hughes must be the best manager points gained to pounds spent in the Premier League, surely? Southampton have managed to sell pretty big too over the last 5 years or more. Investment in their academy has produced Walcott, Oxlade-Chambo, Shaw, Chambers, Lallana etc. In the same period we produced Ryan Shotton and Carl Dickinson. Ignoring our youth development has cost us millions. We are lucky steps have been taken recently to rectify that neglect. Very true.
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Post by Northy on Feb 3, 2015 12:27:37 GMT
The club are trying tot rebalance the books after 5 years of overspending. Hughes did seem prepared to push the boat out for Lennon but he was not going to take a risk on unproven players like the lad at Blues. The fact that Lennon was not given assurances about first team football shows the faith the manager has in the players he already has and I agree with him that Aaron Lennon would not be a definite starter. Moses,Walters and Arnie have all done as much as Lennon this season; add to that lot the job Diouf has done when needed and can anyone really say we NEED a fast runner with very little end product and limited defensive ability as one of our top earners? We are, like any team, susceptible to a few injuries but with Adam and Sidwell available I expect we would play an extra body in the middle and forsake a winger if necessary. The books have been re-balanced now! We're operating at no-loss currently. Surely, one player wasn't going to ruin us financially? we need to operate a £30m profit for a couple of seasons to rebalance the books
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 12:29:02 GMT
I think any transfer window that we manage to keep hold of Bego, Shawcross and now Bojan has to be considered a success to be honest Would have been nice to bring in a Lennon, Troure or another striker, but the best time is summer, (Beattie and Matty E excepted) so they can gel with their new team mates easily pleased then regardless of how much we love Bego and Shawcross, how many clubs over the years have actually made bids for either of them? and we were always going to keep hold of Bojan as no club tends to buy players who have only just suffered an ACL injury
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 3, 2015 12:34:19 GMT
I agree, Pugs. Even teams who are doing well like Southampton have spent pretty big to get where they are. Hughes must be the best manager points gained to pounds spent in the Premier League, surely? Southampton have managed to sell pretty big too over the last 5 years or more. Investment in their academy has produced Walcott, Oxlade-Chambo, Shaw, Chambers, Lallana etc. In the same period we produced Ryan Shotton and Carl Dickinson. Ignoring our youth development has cost us millions. We are lucky steps have been taken recently to rectify that neglect. Add bale to that list aswell royland.
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Post by bolly_premprem on Feb 3, 2015 12:42:53 GMT
I think that is an unfair comparison.
Southampton have the whole of the south coast area to get players from, right across to landsend there is no other real club for young players to choose from, the could go to Bournmouth or Southhampton , or maybe go north up to bristol. ED forgot the mighty portsmouth
If you were a young lad living down saaath which team would you try out for.
( there is of course London clubs, but they are a different league)
Southhampton are very well placed, and to be honest I am a little surprised they are not bigger than they are.
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 3, 2015 12:54:06 GMT
The books have been re-balanced now! We're operating at no-loss currently. Surely, one player wasn't going to ruin us financially? we need to operate a £30m profit for a couple of seasons to rebalance the books I thought they wrote off those loans? Are we not debt free?
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Post by viewfrominside on Feb 3, 2015 13:27:47 GMT
Check this out! Aaron Lennon delighted with his move to Everton..... or not , check his mug shots out on this, fuck me i glad we didn't sign this c**t. Scroll down the page and watch the video to see Lennon posing proudly in his new Everton shirt, the miserable ungreatful c**t. www.facebook.com/FutbolBible?fref=nf
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Post by unknown182 on Feb 3, 2015 13:32:12 GMT
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