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Post by tilstone on Feb 2, 2015 20:33:27 GMT
Danny Rose treatment for Lennon
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 2, 2015 20:35:04 GMT
To me, that sounds exactly like the issue I would be very wary of with AL - namely that he thinks he is bigger / better than us and he'd be doing us a favour by even wearing the stripes.
Bollox to to him and someone have a word with Arnie to get him back to where he was last season.
Yup, up, sounds like Levy has got to Mirallas. So you are prepared to base your judgement on someone's character based on the comments of a sports journalist at the Mail? Nope.
I came to that very same conclusion all on my own thanks STD.
His, obviously similar, appraisal just lent it added credence.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 2, 2015 20:38:13 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Bullshit! It's personal, now!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 2, 2015 20:38:20 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance.
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Post by stokiemarc on Feb 2, 2015 20:39:57 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance. This is fair enough. I thought earlier that he wouldn't get into our team at the moment but would probably walk into theirs. So its fair enough that he'd want to go where he thought he had more chance of playing every week.
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Post by stokeramblers on Feb 2, 2015 20:40:23 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance. I wonder who gets the boot in the Everton team then..? Odd way to operate if true
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Post by wuzza on Feb 2, 2015 20:40:51 GMT
Interesting to know how Everton could give him any more guarantees than we could - sounds like a bit of bluff from Mr S to me.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 2, 2015 20:45:33 GMT
We didn't need him really anyway
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 2, 2015 20:46:21 GMT
Scholes alleged quote must be made up as no senior executive would be daft enough to believe such utter horseshit
"Hi I'm Everton manger sign for us and I will guarantee you a first team place "
If we wouldn't do it why the fuck should we believe it of anyone else
Just tell the truth Man Everton's transfer team told a more compelling story than we did and the irefutable proof is he will be wearing a blue shirt this weekend .
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2015 20:46:49 GMT
Interesting to know how Everton could give him any more guarantees than we could - sounds like a bit of bluff from Mr S to me. Hard to really buy that with McGeady and Mirallas there - as well as Atsu and Pienaar. Bit of stupid spin from Scholes in all likelihood. He just wanted to go to what he rightly perceived to be the bigger club
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:46:55 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance. I wouldn't want us to guarantee anybody first team football, I don't think we particularly need Lennon anyway - with Moses, Diouf, Walters and Arnie we have enough options for the two wide positions for the rest of the season.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 2, 2015 20:47:07 GMT
Is he really more likely to play more at Everton?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 2, 2015 20:47:25 GMT
We didn't need him really anyway We needed a winger, certainly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:49:10 GMT
Is he really more likely to play more at Everton? If he is, you have to wonder what Martinez was on about recently when he promised Atsu more game time!?
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Post by huddy on Feb 2, 2015 20:50:41 GMT
In talking to Sky about a deal and saying the player has gone somewhere else Scholes has broken a bit of an unwritten code.I suspect it was more about money than playing time.Everyone tells a player they'll start every week!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 2, 2015 20:51:22 GMT
Interesting to know how Everton could give him any more guarantees than we could - sounds like a bit of bluff from Mr S to me. Hard to really buy that with McGeady and Mirallas there - as well as Atsu and Pienaar. Bit of stupid spin from Scholes in all likelihood. He just wanted to go to what he rightly perceived to be the bigger club I guess the point is more that Scholes is demonstrating that we were indeed (very much) in for him and came close but at the end of the day Lennon had a choice to make. Just because he chose Everton rather than us, doesn't then mean that we should treat the lad as some sort of Judas character.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 2, 2015 20:52:33 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal It's a personal decision isn't it?
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Post by huddy on Feb 2, 2015 20:53:40 GMT
It will be about money.Scholes hates Levy.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 2, 2015 21:00:04 GMT
We didn't need him really anyway We needed a winger, certainly. We might end up doing so if the injury plague hits the wings again but I'm not sure we need Lennon. We're not in any danger and I suppose the decision can then be reduced to how many extra points do we think we'll get by signing him, and is that going to bring in more dosh by him propelling us up the table versus the few million loan fee and wages . Injuries excepted I'm not sure I saw him making a huge difference. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to envisage Moses or Arnie breaking down though!
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 2, 2015 21:02:09 GMT
Der der der der, greedy bastard
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 2, 2015 21:02:26 GMT
We needed a winger, certainly. We might end up doing so if the injury plague hits the wings again but I'm not sure we need Lennon. We're not in any danger and I suppose the decision can then be reduced to how many extra points do we think we'll get by signing him, and is that going to bring in more dosh by him propelling us up the table versus the few million loan fee and wages . Injuries excepted I'm not sure I saw him making a huge difference. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to envisage Moses or Arnie breaking down though! If we could get him back to his best he was quick and direct and an upgrade on Assaidi. Moses is a bit fragile and we'll do very well to go the season without him twanging something. With Assaidi going we needed at least another option for me Banksy.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 2, 2015 21:09:40 GMT
Arnie is going to get those games he needs anyway! Still not completely made up my mind on him yet, so if he can start another dozen games it'll be interesting to judge him at the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:30:26 GMT
Don't see what the problem is. If you're anything other than a Stoke fan you're going to choose to play for Everton pretty much every day of the week,aren't you?
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 2, 2015 21:39:21 GMT
Why is he a big time Charlie ? He's decided to sign for Everton instead of us just as players choose us over other clubs It's football and nothing personal Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance. It's time TS fucked off. Amateur hour every window with this clown.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:40:11 GMT
Don't see what the problem is. If you're anything other than a Stoke fan you're going to choose to play for Everton pretty much every day of the week,aren't you? I don't think everton are more attractive at the moment. More likely to do with first team opportunity and the deal on the table. Why would a player like lennon give a shit about everton being a bit more famous etc?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:48:11 GMT
Don't see what the problem is. If you're anything other than a Stoke fan you're going to choose to play for Everton pretty much every day of the week,aren't you? I don't think everton are more attractive at the moment. More likely to do with first team opportunity and the deal on the table. Why would a player like lennon give a shit about everton being a bit more famous etc? A bit more famous? Everton are a massive club compared to us and are definitely a more attractive proposition regardless of current league position. I get what you're saying and the deal that Everton have put on the table is most definitely more beneficial to Lennon than the deal we tabled,but I don't hold anything against a player for choosing to go to a bigger club than us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:57:31 GMT
I don't think everton are more attractive at the moment. More likely to do with first team opportunity and the deal on the table. Why would a player like lennon give a shit about everton being a bit more famous etc? A bit more famous? Everton are a massive club compared to us and are definitely a more attractive proposition regardless of current league position. I get what you're saying and the deal that Everton have put on the table is most definitely more beneficial to Lennon than the deal we tabled,but I don't hold anything against a player for choosing to go to a bigger club than us. I was too young when everton were big in the 80's but ive been to goodison park in recent years. I don't think a player like lennon or indeed most footballers would place much value on ofe idea of what is a big club or not. The money on offer, length of contract and chances to play in the first team would be more important. Probably along with location. In the next few years though I think we have about as much chance of Everton in winning a trophy
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Post by werrington on Feb 2, 2015 22:11:34 GMT
Indeed mate Tony Scholes has just said to Sky that Lennon chose Everton over us because Everton were guaranteeing him first team football but we couldn't give him that assurance. It's time TS fucked off. Amateur hour every window with this clown. Is it ? You mean deadline day and not the windows in general pugs ? Summer windows are usually fruitful
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 22:16:48 GMT
A bit more famous? Everton are a massive club compared to us and are definitely a more attractive proposition regardless of current league position. I get what you're saying and the deal that Everton have put on the table is most definitely more beneficial to Lennon than the deal we tabled,but I don't hold anything against a player for choosing to go to a bigger club than us. I was too young when everton were big in the 80's but ive been to goodison park in recent years. I don't think a player like lennon or indeed most footballers would place much value on ofe idea of what is a big club or not. The money on offer, length of contract and chances to play in the first team would be more important. Probably along with location. In the next few years though I think we have about as much chance of Everton in winning a trophy The only bit I'm struggling to understand is the chance of first team football notion that's being bandied about. Surely he would have had just as much chance of regular game time here?
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 2, 2015 22:20:59 GMT
Bullet dodge , smoke and mirrors, n
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