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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 27, 2014 20:02:16 GMT
The reality is that a few social workers see racism as worse than abuse and the police are terrified of being labelled racist.I'm not making this up I have first hand experience of it.
Pakistani & Kashmiri gangs have targeted and groomed young girls and they have been doing it for a long time..on a national scale..White men also do it obviously but they tend not to hunt in packs on such a scale
Some professionals have turned a blind eye to this for either personal or political reasons and are therefore implicated.
Victims of abuse don't seem to matter what matters more is that we keep all this quiet for fear of upsetting one ethnic minority group.
With a general election due it would be deeply satisfying to see politicians of ALL PARTIES focus their attention on these horific crimes and sort out the perpetrators once and for all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 20:22:51 GMT
It seems like the wealty white influencial and powerful would abuse anyone The Muslim groups of paedos just go for young whites, are not their own good enough. EVERY child needs protecting EVERY PAEDO needs catching and punishing The Saville affair means that cases are getting investigated, in today's world cover ups will be less and less, and that's a good thing. But the reality is we are afraid to target Muslim groups for crime because of the perceived racism issue. Forget that. Justice should be equal and we shouldn't pussyfoot around the issue where serious crimes happen. How many Muslim PAEDO groups have been allowed to get away with it for so long? How many others are out there? Spot on. We don't want pathetic wishy washy excusemeisters , we want people who if Wizzardofdribble is to believed removed from their jobs and bring people in who can actually do the job they're paid to do. Simple.
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 27, 2014 20:56:59 GMT
The whole episode is sickening. Nobody should ever be silent regarding child abuse whether that involves Asian gangs, celebrities or members of the Establishment. I've just gone through this thread and read of nobody defending these scumbags but several of you seem to be using this as an opportunity to justify previous viewpoints on completely different subjects. This isn't about terrorism, this isn't about Gaza and it's not about you. It's about vulnerable children suffering sexual abuse. .......... ......at the hands of Pakistani evil shitbags.That's more accurate . Mumf BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY Anyone found guilty of these types of crimes should face the ultimate punishment....Paki scum, muslim scum, the parents of baby peter, all of em HANG EM !
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Post by Nick1984 on Aug 27, 2014 21:22:50 GMT
You'll be a very useful dhimmi in the future.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 27, 2014 22:52:11 GMT
It seems like the wealty white influencial and powerful would abuse anyone The Muslim groups of paedos just go for young whites, are not their own good enough. EVERY child needs protecting EVERY PAEDO needs catching and punishing The Saville affair means that cases are getting investigated, in today's world cover ups will be less and less, and that's a good thing. But the reality is we are afraid to target Muslim groups for crime because of the perceived racism issue. Forget that. Justice should be equal and we shouldn't pussyfoot around the issue where serious crimes happen. How many Muslim PAEDO groups have been allowed to get away with it for so long? How many others are out there? Spot on. We don't want pathetic wishy washy excusemeisters , we want people who if Wizzardofdribble is to believed removed from their jobs and bring people in who can actually do the job they're paid to do. Simple. So you've calmed down from earlier when you called them "dirty filthy Pakistanis"? Good man..
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Post by thevoid on Aug 27, 2014 22:54:22 GMT
It's not down to me to find a solution, that's why we elect a cabinet who are paid a handsome salary. Why do you think an Average Joe on a football messageboard should have a solution, I'm merely commenting on the direction this country is taking, which is my right. What's your solution, blame everyone else but the perpetrator and make excuses for them? I noticed you keep bringing up the West's foreign policy as an excuse, well, the UK hasn't got a great human rights record in India down the years but I don't see the Sikh community using the Amritsar Massacre as an excuse to cause trouble. We come down hard on all abusers, whatever their background. Don't you agree? Of course I agree, I was making the point originally that a lot of the ugliness that's occuring both in this country and abroad, child abuse or otherwise, seems to be emanating from followers of the Islamic faith. Whilst on the topic of kids, who kidnapped the Nigerian girls again?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 27, 2014 22:56:26 GMT
The reality is that a few social workers see racism as worse than abuse and the police are terrified of being labelled racist.I'm not making this up I have first hand experience of it. Pakistani & Kashmiri gangs have targeted and groomed young girls and they have been doing it for a long time..on a national scale..White men also do it obviously but they tend not to hunt in packs on such a scale Some professionals have turned a blind eye to this for either personal or political reasons and are therefore implicated. With a general election due it would be deeply satisfying to see politicians of ALL PARTIES focus their attention on these horific crimes and sort out the perpetrators once and for all. While our elected politicians are parachuted into our constituencies and bar true local people from standing for parliament, then yes, I'm afraid we're always going to have this problem. A labour council felt they could not whistle blow for fear of upsetting their key voters. It's despicable and it's wrong.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 27, 2014 22:57:39 GMT
We come down hard on all abusers, whatever their background. Don't you agree? Of course I agree, I was making the point originally that a lot of the ugliness that's occuring both in this country and abroad, child abuse or otherwise, seems to be emanating from followers of the Islamic faith. Whilst on the topic of kids, who kidnapped the Nigerian girls again? Point made....congratulations....however I refer you to my original response. Can you assure me you'd respond consistently with regards to privileged white British males, committing the same vile acts?
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Post by thevoid on Aug 27, 2014 23:20:47 GMT
Of course I agree, I was making the point originally that a lot of the ugliness that's occuring both in this country and abroad, child abuse or otherwise, seems to be emanating from followers of the Islamic faith. Whilst on the topic of kids, who kidnapped the Nigerian girls again? Point made....congratulations....however I refer you to my original response. Can you assure me you'd respond consistently with regards to privileged white British males, committing the same vile acts? I'd assume that in those instances, the police would act as soon as they were made aware of the situation rather than being more concerned with not upsetting the broader Radio DJ/Glam Rock/Australian cartoonist communities.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 28, 2014 0:46:19 GMT
Point made....congratulations....however I refer you to my original response. Can you assure me you'd respond consistently with regards to privileged white British males, committing the same vile acts? I'd assume that in those instances, the police would act as soon as they were made aware of the situation rather than being more concerned with not upsetting the broader Radio DJ/Glam Rock/Australian cartoonist communities. Good point and I agree...sadly like Rochdale they chose not to for fear of "rocking the boat" It's about right and wrong is it not?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 7:12:11 GMT
Spot on. We don't want pathetic wishy washy excusemeisters , we want people who if Wizzardofdribble is to believed removed from their jobs and bring people in who can actually do the job they're paid to do. Simple. So you've calmed down from earlier when you called them "dirty filthy Pakistanis"? Good man.. No ..they are Filthy evil dirty cowardly Pakistani shitbags and there are many more out there. Racial predators looking deliberately for white girls.... Lock your door...you could be next. You know what happened a few weeks ago outside your Flat don't you... Enjoy...I've shit better.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 28, 2014 13:15:50 GMT
Point made....congratulations....however I refer you to my original response. Can you assure me you'd respond consistently with regards to privileged white British males, committing the same vile acts? I'd assume that in those instances, the police would act as soon as they were made aware of the situation rather than being more concerned with not upsetting the broader Radio DJ/Glam Rock/Australian cartoonist communities. Well the kiddie fiddling that a large number of catholic priests were able to get away with for many many years says differently.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2014 13:55:26 GMT
Catholic Priests are a good example...they used their position in society to abuse children...no-one dared criticise the Church..they were untouchable..in the same way that gangs of Pakistani men have groomed and abused young girls..because they were untouchable.
No one dared criticise them because they would play the race card.
We have over 1400 children abused in Rotherham..a crime of staggering proportions..and yet a few days after the story is released it's off the front pages.
Why?
Because politicians/councillors are terrified of the implications of stirring up this vicious nest of vipers...given that quite a few of them depend on the ethnic vote to get re-elected.
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Post by ST1 Stokie on Aug 28, 2014 15:15:33 GMT
While I agree with sacking the people in authority nothing has been said or done about the dirty fooker who committed these despicable crimes. and they are out on the streets free to commit these things again
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 28, 2014 16:55:50 GMT
Catholic Priests are a good example...they used their position in society to abuse children...no-one dared criticise the Church..they were untouchable..in the same way that gangs of Pakistani men have groomed and abused young girls..because they were untouchable. No one dared criticise them because they would play the race card. We have over 1400 children abused in Rotherham..a crime of staggering proportions..and yet a few days after the story is released it's off the front pages. Why? Because politicians/councillors are terrified of the implications of stirring up this vicious nest of vipers...given that quite a few of them depend on the ethnic vote to get re-elected. Whilst what you say is correct to me it smacks of the we were only following orders defence in the war. In my opinion if you are involved in child protection your ONLY concern should be the child, if you're worried about your career, being branded etc etc you are in the wrong job. It's also not true that no one dared criticise what was going on a labour MP and times journalist both tried to raise it. I'm not a labour supporter and i'm not trying to score political points but this was a Labour town and council and a Labour MP. The MP is on record as saying they didn't want to upset the vote, the council and local MP were well aware of allegations, another labour mp Ann Cryer was silenced by her party and the Labour leader has only commented on the defection of a tory mp to ukip nice to know where his priorities are. I wonder if the silence is due to Ed Balls who was absolutely in no way responsible for stuffing up the economy also happening to be the secretary of state for children and families.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 28, 2014 16:58:48 GMT
I'd assume that in those instances, the police would act as soon as they were made aware of the situation rather than being more concerned with not upsetting the broader Radio DJ/Glam Rock/Australian cartoonist communities. Well the kiddie fiddling that a large number of catholic priests were able to get away with for many many years says differently. Isn't that more of an Irish issue than an issue with the UK police? The Catholic Church obviously has massive influence over the Irish community.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2014 17:31:41 GMT
Well the kiddie fiddling that a large number of catholic priests were able to get away with for many many years says differently. Isn't that more of an Irish issue than an issue with the UK police? The Catholic Church obviously has massive influence over the Irish community. What's more to the point mate is that Catholic Priests weren't responsible for the abuse in Rotherham..Rochdale etc etc plus a host of other Cities. A red herring.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 28, 2014 17:36:01 GMT
Isn't that more of an Irish issue than an issue with the UK police? The Catholic Church obviously has massive influence over the Irish community. What's more to the point mate is that Catholic Priests weren't responsible for the abuse in Rotherham..Rochdale etc etc plus a host of other Cities. A red herring. Attachment Deleted
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2014 17:39:40 GMT
Catholic Priests are a good example...they used their position in society to abuse children...no-one dared criticise the Church..they were untouchable..in the same way that gangs of Pakistani men have groomed and abused young girls..because they were untouchable. No one dared criticise them because they would play the race card. We have over 1400 children abused in Rotherham..a crime of staggering proportions..and yet a few days after the story is released it's off the front pages. Why? Because politicians/councillors are terrified of the implications of stirring up this vicious nest of vipers...given that quite a few of them depend on the ethnic vote to get re-elected. Whilst what you say is correct to me it smacks of the we were only following orders defence in the war. In my opinion if you are involved in child protection your ONLY concern should be the child, if you're worried about your career, being branded etc etc you are in the wrong job. It's also not true that no one dared criticise what was going on a labour MP and times journalist both tried to raise it. I'm not a labour supporter and i'm not trying to score political points but this was a Labour town and council and a Labour MP. The MP is on record as saying they didn't want to upset the vote, the council and local MP were well aware of allegations, another labour mp Ann Cryer was silenced by her party and the Labour leader has only commented on the defection of a tory mp to ukip nice to know where his priorities are. I wonder if the silence is due to Ed Balls who was absolutely in no way responsible for stuffing up the economy also happening to be the secretary of state for children and families. I wouldnt criticise individuals because they get used as scapegoats..allowing the rest to go free. This isn't a party political issue and it shouldn't be allowed to degenerate to that level. This is about the protection of vulnerable children. And a lot of people have obviously not done that. What we need is a full scale public inquiry with all the facts on the table..then we can make our own minds up about the scale of abuse and who is doing it and what should be done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:59:47 GMT
Whilst what you say is correct to me it smacks of the we were only following orders defence in the war. In my opinion if you are involved in child protection your ONLY concern should be the child, if you're worried about your career, being branded etc etc you are in the wrong job. It's also not true that no one dared criticise what was going on a labour MP and times journalist both tried to raise it. I'm not a labour supporter and i'm not trying to score political points but this was a Labour town and council and a Labour MP. The MP is on record as saying they didn't want to upset the vote, the council and local MP were well aware of allegations, another labour mp Ann Cryer was silenced by her party and the Labour leader has only commented on the defection of a tory mp to ukip nice to know where his priorities are. I wonder if the silence is due to Ed Balls who was absolutely in no way responsible for stuffing up the economy also happening to be the secretary of state for children and families. I wouldnt criticise individuals because they get used as scapegoats..allowing the rest to go free. This isn't a party political issue and it shouldn't be allowed to degenerate to that level. This is about the protection of vulnerable children. And a lot of people have obviously not done that. What we need is a full scale public inquiry with all the facts on the table..then we can make our own minds up about the scale of abuse and who is doing it and what should be done. The police in Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire have already stated that there is an inherent problem within the Pakistani community where common western values do not apply to their culture . In relation to the Rochdale case they estimated that hundreds of cases never came to court but they knew of their existence . You don't need a public enquiry as to what's already staring you in the face. You need a laptop and some areas to type into the search engine. Here are some geographical hotspots to try .... Luton , Leicester , Blackburn , Oldham , Burnley , Rochdale and Greater Manchester ...You will find the incidence of sex related offences in relation to Pakistani men in particular massively greater than the likes of Northwich , Widnes , Runcorn Frodsham pro capita. OF course there are many others where this type of crime is regularly reported but more often than not the BBC is reluctant to use the specific word 'Pakistani' incase it incites or it is seen to be inciting racial prejudice. I suspect that this attitude and reluctance is part of the problem . The fact is that many of our fellow citizens don't like to point the finger of blame at our Muslim brothers. There are plenty of that mentality as can be easily witnessed on here. What we are now seeing is the result of 25 years of brainwashing by central government through our politically correct education system and other avenues of the Public sector. The problem is that these type of gangland sex crimes have hit epidemic proportions. 1400 incidents alone in Rotherham and hundreds more in and around Greater Manchester. The outrage , the anger and the repercussions of all this will reverberate around this once Green and pleasant land for many decades to come. The prevalence of Pakistani sex attacks will continue to increase at an alarming rate with no signs of it slowing down as a direct result of our immigration policy. So....there's no point arguing about the Catholics , or the Romanians or anything else. This debate is about Pakistanis and the blameless society we have created. Your Britain in 2014.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 28, 2014 20:27:05 GMT
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Post by desman2 on Aug 28, 2014 20:45:52 GMT
Another example of this stupid reaction to a complaint of rape. White woman complains against white guy. Coppers go and lift the guy straight away whether guilty or a victim of a malicious allegation. It dosnt matter. White girl complains against Pakistani. Fuck all happens except for the cunt to go and find someone else to abuse. It really is time that those who promote this rediculous and disgusting philosophy were rooted out and prevented from working anywhere near the public services for life. The government even has the sheer audacity to help fund this common purpose, which is a charity hiding behind the chatham house rule, with the money from your and my earnings. retiredandangry.wordpress.com/tag/chatham-house-rule/
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 28, 2014 20:49:25 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2014 22:10:09 GMT
I wouldnt criticise individuals because they get used as scapegoats..allowing the rest to go free. This isn't a party political issue and it shouldn't be allowed to degenerate to that level. This is about the protection of vulnerable children. And a lot of people have obviously not done that. What we need is a full scale public inquiry with all the facts on the table..then we can make our own minds up about the scale of abuse and who is doing it and what should be done. The police in Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire have already stated that there is an inherent problem within the Pakistani community where common western values do not apply to their culture . In relation to the Rochdale case they estimated that hundreds of cases never came to court but they knew of their existence . You don't need a public enquiry as to what's already staring you in the face. You need a laptop and some areas to type into the search engine. Here are some geographical hotspots to try .... Luton , Leicester , Blackburn , Oldham , Burnley , Rochdale and Greater Manchester ...You will find the incidence of sex related offences in relation to Pakistani men in particular massively greater than the likes of Northwich , Widnes , Runcorn Frodsham pro capita. OF course there are many others where this type of crime is regularly reported but more often than not the BBC is reluctant to use the specific word 'Pakistani' incase it incites or it is seen to be inciting racial prejudice. I suspect that this attitude and reluctance is part of the problem . The fact is that many of our fellow citizens don't like to point the finger of blame at our Muslim brothers. There are plenty of that mentality as can be easily witnessed on here. What we are now seeing is the result of 25 years of brainwashing by central government through our politically correct education system and other avenues of the Public sector. The problem is that these type of gangland sex crimes have hit epidemic proportions. 1400 incidents alone in Rotherham and hundreds more in and around Greater Manchester. The outrage , the anger and the repercussions of all this will reverberate around this once Green and pleasant land for many decades to come. The prevalence of Pakistani sex attacks will continue to increase at an alarming rate with no signs of it slowing down as a direct result of our immigration policy. So....there's no point arguing about the Catholics , or the Romanians or anything else. This debate is about Pakistanis and the blameless society we have created. Your Britain in 2014. Yes..I would agree with most of that.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 29, 2014 10:22:52 GMT
its easy to read about this and think fucking pakistanis, fucking muslims etc but the realism is this - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28949188a sad story heads must roll
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 29, 2014 16:06:33 GMT
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Post by desman2 on Aug 29, 2014 16:27:56 GMT
Of course it is. Their aim is not to integrate with us but to integrate with them. When people go on about moderates it makes no difference. Like my old man often said about his wartime adventures. " The Africa korps were as far from being Nazis as you could get, but theyd still try to kill me"
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 29, 2014 17:13:41 GMT
its easy to read about this and think fucking pakistanis, fucking muslims etc but the realism is this - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28949188a sad story heads must roll The reality is that social service departments failed children because some staff in them believe racism is worse than abuse and the police were criminally negligent. Just have a read of Dan Davies book 'The life and lies of Jimmy Savile'...it makes your eyes water...Victims were ignored for 40 years..by the police..social services & the BBC. Thats why I said in an earlier post about having a Public Enquiry..ONLY then can people be made accountable..all the facts on the table..meticulous detail of who should have done what and why they didn't. And once that's done we can start chopping peoples heads off..metaphorically of course. If the Authorities can find the money for Bloody Sunday enquiries they can find the money for this.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 31, 2014 10:20:33 GMT
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Post by jonah77 on Aug 31, 2014 11:06:43 GMT
Just because there is a list of white paedophiles,doesnt mean there isnt an equally long list of pakistani paedophiles. what a stupid defence.
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