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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 22:22:01 GMT
Post by nott1 on Aug 24, 2014 22:22:01 GMT
Diouf - touch of a Rapist...And I have seen some poor players over 35 years. Do you think Hanover will do a refund for faulty goods?
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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 22:51:12 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 24, 2014 22:51:12 GMT
Think he needs to be coming on off the bench. He should t be playing wide left, he shouldn't be playing wide right, he certainly shouldn't be playing the number 10 role, and until his confidence is up and used to the players within the team and squad he needs to bide his time.
I think Moses will be straight into the team, league experience is needed right now.
Front 4 for the forseeable:
Odemwingie-Adam-Moses Crouch
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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 23:12:09 GMT
Post by prem4stoke on Aug 24, 2014 23:12:09 GMT
Think he needs to be coming on off the bench. He should t be playing wide left, he shouldn't be playing wide right, he certainly shouldn't be playing the number 10 role, and until his confidence is up and used to the players within the team and squad he needs to bide his time. I think Moses will be straight into the team, league experience is needed right now. Front 4 for the forseeable: Odemwingie-Adam-Moses Crouch I'd go with and be happy with that for now.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 24, 2014 23:17:38 GMT
I like Diouf; He's quick, he's a generally decent footballer, he's strong, he's versatile, he's a decent finisher and he has a good workrate. He's a jack of all trades but unfortunately, seems to be a master of none at the moment.
He's got all the tools to be a great success in this league for us and like Arnie last season, he needs a bit of time.
I'll enjoy this thread in 7 months time when it's bumped after another successful season. I'm sure the usuals will be happy to post the same "WELL I'M HAPPY HE PROVED ME WRONG AGAIN HAHA!!" bollocks they post every year, about every new talent.
Cunts.
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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 23:28:35 GMT
Post by s7oke on Aug 24, 2014 23:28:35 GMT
I like Diouf; He's quick, he's a generally decent footballer, he's strong, he's versatile, he's a decent finisher and he has a good workrate. He's a jack of all trades but unfortunately, seems to be a master of none at the moment. He's got all the tools to be a great success in this league for us and like Arnie last season, he needs a bit of time. I'll enjoy this thread in 7 months time when it's bumped after another successful season. I'm sure the usuals will be happy to post the usual, "WELL I'M HAPPY HE PROVED ME WRONG AGAIN HAHA!!", cunts. Agreed just needs to settle in but we need to help him and play to his strengths through balls and get him running onto them! defenders hate it. I'm not to sure about all this get it down the wings and whip the ball in all the time. We are too one dimensional Play the ball through the middle sometimes and give the defenders a bit more to think about because I would imagine diouff running at them onto the ball will be a bit more threatening than clearing a cross for them
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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 23:29:17 GMT
Post by dapperdave on Aug 24, 2014 23:29:17 GMT
Give the bloke a break he's a free transfer,he's not going to be a goal machine.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 24, 2014 23:29:35 GMT
I like Diouf; He's quick, he's a generally decent footballer, he's strong, he's versatile, he's a decent finisher and he has a good workrate. He's a jack of all trades but unfortunately, seems to be a master of none at the moment. He's got all the tools to be a great success in this league for us and like Arnie last season, he needs a bit of time. I'll enjoy this thread in 7 months time when it's bumped after another successful season. I'm sure the usuals will be happy to post the same "WELL I'M HAPPY HE PROVED ME WRONG AGAIN HAHA!!" bollocks they post every year, about every new talent. Cunts. In the meantime, it would be absolutely lovely if we could play to his strengths.
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Diouf
Aug 24, 2014 23:35:46 GMT
Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2014 23:35:46 GMT
He will score 12 plus this season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 23:36:53 GMT
I like Diouf; He's quick, he's a generally decent footballer, he's strong, he's versatile, he's a decent finisher and he has a good workrate. He's a jack of all trades but unfortunately, seems to be a master of none at the moment. He's got all the tools to be a great success in this league for us and like Arnie last season, he needs a bit of time. I'll enjoy this thread in 7 months time when it's bumped after another successful season. I'm sure the usuals will be happy to post the same "WELL I'M HAPPY HE PROVED ME WRONG AGAIN HAHA!!" bollocks they post every year, about every new talent. Cunts. In the meantime, it would be absolutely lovely if we could play to his strengths. ....and.Bojans as I said on another thread. Play to their strengths.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 0:25:06 GMT
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Post by heisenberg88 on Aug 25, 2014 0:25:06 GMT
I think he can adapt to the system. Not a prayer. I really, really hope I'm wrong. Play crouch so the likes of bojan can play off him. Crouch is the better player anyway
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 0:37:28 GMT
Post by ukcstokie on Aug 25, 2014 0:37:28 GMT
Give the bloke a break he's a free transfer,he's not going to be a goal machine. What bollocks.
We were prepared to spend £6million plus on him 12 months ago.
1 in 2 in the Bundesliga does tend to suggest you're talking rubbish.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 2:24:01 GMT
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Post by britsabroad on Aug 25, 2014 2:24:01 GMT
I bit my tongue over the summer but I never saw the excitement with him. He failed miserably in the Premier League twice before, why would this time be different.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 3:18:45 GMT
Post by The Occasional Man on Aug 25, 2014 3:18:45 GMT
I've said my fill on other threads and to be fair, I've cannot ever remember slating a new player in such a short period of time.
The things is that for all the slagging off for the likes of Arnie or Assaidi last season when they had poor games (and hell I thought they had poor games but I never actually slated them) the fact was you could see that they actually had some nous and skill in them which need to be concentrated and nurtured and they would be good players.
However I've seen absolutely nothing from Diouf in the last 2 games that makes me think defenders will be quaking in their boots when he's on the pitch!
If I recall rightly he was offside once (and it was some terrible judgement by him why he ended up off side), the fact that he isn't making runs to be caught off side for a forward is some what worrying.
I am more than happy to be proven wrong (and I really hope I am and he put away 15+ goal!) however I cannot see any positives in the past two performances.
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Post by jamie3184 on Aug 25, 2014 4:40:43 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous.
Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already!
Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun.
I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him!
Fickle doesn't do it justice.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 4:47:11 GMT
Post by Maccca100 on Aug 25, 2014 4:47:11 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous. Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already! Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun. I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him! Fickle doesn't do it justice. Fickle we maybe, but you sir are blind. Whelan who for your info is about as far from Dioufs colour as you can get on the chart, was the player taken out
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 8:19:42 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 25, 2014 8:19:42 GMT
You get what you pay for. Now how much did we pay for him? Um Nothing. Says it all really. Really can't see where goals are going to come from this season. He needs someone like Ireland or Adam to be playing balls to him early by the end of next season I expect him to have scored more Stoke goals than Jon Walters has in his Stoke career.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 8:34:18 GMT
Post by jeycov on Aug 25, 2014 8:34:18 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous. Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already! Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun. I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him! Fickle doesn't do it justice. I thought that Diouf was through with the chance to take on their GK, a chance to settle nerves all round - on another day, maybe in a different position on the pitch, play would have continued. That may have been better than Hull losing a player, as they did not trouble Begovic apart from the goal. He worked hard, not quite on the same wavelength as those who should be playing him in at the moment. A bit more urgency is needed, we started last season at this pace and need to up the tempo v Man City. At least we are likely to go to the Etihad with some attacking intent imo
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:04:49 GMT
Post by malisastokie on Aug 25, 2014 9:04:49 GMT
It is to early to judge him but I don't think he will ever be a prolific goal scorer.
His first touch yesterday was not good but he had a few others with him and yesterday's display just needs to be forgotten because to a man they were poor.
My concern would be that he appears not to have an idea how to head the ball.
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Post by salifdiaolegend on Aug 25, 2014 9:06:50 GMT
The fact that he hasn't had a chance presented to him in two games to actually score a goal yet makes me irritated that people call for him to be dropped. At the moment for all we know he's the best bloody finisher in the world, if you actually watch him off the ball he makes the runs and drags defenders out but gets no service into his body whatsoever. He's supposedly very quick and good in the air, but has anyone actually put in a decent cross from the byline or played a through ball slicing through their defence yet. If you have a 1 in 2 goal record in the bundesliga you don't turn shit overnight
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:07:47 GMT
Post by s7oke on Aug 25, 2014 9:07:47 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous. Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already! Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun. I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him! Fickle doesn't do it justice.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:12:17 GMT
Post by s7oke on Aug 25, 2014 9:12:17 GMT
You get what you pay for. Now how much did we pay for him? Um Nothing. Says it all really. Really can't see where goals are going to come from this season. He needs someone like Ireland or Adam to be playing balls to him early by the end of next season I expect him to have scored more Stoke goals than Jon Walters has in his Stoke career. We need to play to his strengths ball through the middle and him running on to them as I have said before he's that type of player do that and we will have a hell of a forward on our hands He looks uncomfortable how we are playing at present he's a direct player needs to run at the defenders
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:12:39 GMT
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Post by dame on Aug 25, 2014 9:12:39 GMT
Welbeck???? Uou are fucking joking aren't you? ???? Yeah Diouf doesn't fill me with confidence but welbeck get a grip! No idea what anybody sees in him. Poor touch, no control, little goal threat . . . and those are his best points. An absolute liability. Fcuk him off and break the bank for Welbeck!
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 25, 2014 9:13:53 GMT
Judge him on his last two games where the whole team have been poor or you can judge him on his last 2 seasons where his goal scoring record is very good. Alternatively, give it time and judge him after a proper run in the team. The whole front 6 who started yesterday were poor. Singling out a new signing who had no service and who is finding his feet in the league is pathetic. No problem with people highlighting their concerns but completely writing him off and calling him utter wank this early on is embarrassing.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:13:48 GMT
Post by s7oke on Aug 25, 2014 9:13:48 GMT
The fact that he hasn't had a chance presented to him in two games to actually score a goal yet makes me irritated that people call for him to be dropped. At the moment for all we know he's the best bloody finisher in the world, if you actually watch him off the ball he makes the runs and drags defenders out but gets no service into his body whatsoever. He's supposedly very quick and good in the air, but has anyone actually put in a decent cross from the byline or played a through ball slicing through their defence yet. If you have a 1 in 2 goal record in the bundesliga you don't turn shit overnight Well said
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:14:19 GMT
Post by Trouserdog on Aug 25, 2014 9:14:19 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous. Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already! Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun. I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him! Fickle doesn't do it justice. And what about all the times when people have judged a player as crap after one or two games and been proven to be correct? Just because someone wears a red and white shirt, it doesn't make them a good footballer.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 25, 2014 9:15:52 GMT
Let's hope he doesn't visit this forum as he needs his confidence boosting, not all of this negative attitude
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:17:05 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Aug 25, 2014 9:17:05 GMT
Welbeck???? Uou are fucking joking aren't you? ???? Yeah Diouf doesn't fill me with confidence but welbeck get a grip! No idea what anybody sees in him. Poor touch, no control, little goal threat . . . and those are his best points. An absolute liability. Fcuk him off and break the bank for Welbeck! Wellbeck FFS would rather have Diouf everyday of the week proven in a top league What exactly has Wellbeck done at utd Only gets called up for England because he's the best of a bad bunch at present
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:18:37 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 25, 2014 9:18:37 GMT
The guy couldnt trap a bag of cement.
Maybe he has some secret trick to his game that Im not aware of.....
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Post by cheadlestokie on Aug 25, 2014 9:19:32 GMT
With so many of the established players in the team clearly out of form at the moment it is difficult for any of the new boys to shine.
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Diouf
Aug 25, 2014 9:19:42 GMT
Post by s7oke on Aug 25, 2014 9:19:42 GMT
The ineptitude of some of the fans on this board really makes me chuckle. How anyone can say that Diouf is rubbish and should be benched from two competitive games is ridiculous. Have a look at some of the greatest players to ever grace the Premier League and you will find it took them a hell of a lot more than two games to settle in, Henry and Bergkamp being two. Now I am not saying that Diouf is anywhere close to the ability of Henry, however you need to give the lad a chance to settle in. Especially before declaring he is rubbish, should be replaced by a real forward or even the most ignorant comment of being sold on already! Diouf may have looked a little slow and rusty when presented with a chance from Bojan but the infrequency of chances won't of helped him settle in! With Bojan the only real outlet offering him a half decent chance he isn't going to get much practice at latching on to a good ball. Diouf is a very good player and given the right service will score goals for fun. I'd be willing to bet all my money that if he hadn't of been taken out by Chester he would of scored easily AND there would be no negative threads on the board about him! Fickle doesn't do it justice. And what about all the times when people have judged a player as crap after one or two games and been proven to be correct? Just because someone wears a red and white shirt, it doesn't make them a good footballer. No but his record in Germany a good league very similar to the prem is great !! So it's not fair to crucify him before he gets going with some decent service. Give the bloke a chance please !!!
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