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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 11:46:01 GMT
Keane is an obnoxious man though, isn't he! That's putting it politely!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 18, 2014 12:04:16 GMT
Keane is an obnoxious man though, isn't he! That's putting it politely! I've noticed when he has his beard he's more likely to do something mental. Dressed as he was was a frightening experience. Make no mistake that was a Keane team we played.
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Post by mrred on Aug 18, 2014 12:07:30 GMT
OP, please refrain from contact to the outside world. Referring to our stadium as a 'bear pit' is almost as cringeworthy as that loud and proud flag we had a few seasons ago.
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Post by block27row27 on Aug 18, 2014 12:08:12 GMT
Pissed me the fuck off when people booed. That's the result of wank plastic fans who've only appeared over the last few years. Don't have a right to boo the team when they've only been through the good times. They haven't witnesses shite after shite in the lower leagues.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 18, 2014 12:09:54 GMT
Yeah, the manager who delivered our highest league position and best football for nearly forty years is to blame. I think the previous manager proved that landmark achievements don't make you immune from criticism.
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Post by stokeypieman on Aug 18, 2014 12:59:25 GMT
The atmosphere was always known as the 12th man, I hate it when away fans out sing us. Stop the Booing and create a winning atmosphere then we all feel better.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 18, 2014 13:08:37 GMT
For a bear pit you need a pit and a bear. All the pits closed down some time ago and bears haven't been seen for centuries. What we do have is a stadium and a great crowd, but the crowd performs best when the team does. Not rocket science.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 18, 2014 13:14:34 GMT
To be honest bears are generally very quiet and spend most of their time sleeping (including October - March) and the rest of it eating so the Brit is doing a fair impression of a bear pit
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2014 13:18:32 GMT
For a bear pit you need a pit and a bear. All the pits closed down some time ago and bears haven't been seen for centuries. What we do have is a stadium and a great crowd, but the crowd performs best when the team does. Not rocket science. I know where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree, last season we had our best to date in recent times and the atmosphere was still pretty poor most of the time, expectation is killing it, while there's nothing wrong with expecting a little more these days, the crowd shouldn't just sit back and wait for it to happen then make a noise, it should start way before.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 18, 2014 13:43:03 GMT
For a bear pit you need a pit and a bear. All the pits closed down some time ago and bears haven't been seen for centuries. What we do have is a stadium and a great crowd, but the crowd performs best when the team does. Not rocket science. I know where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree, last season we had our best to date in recent times and the atmosphere was still pretty poor most of the time, expectation is killing it, while there's nothing wrong with expecting a little more these days, the crowd shouldn't just sit back and wait for it to happen then make a noise, it should start way before. Don't disagree, sometimes the team get the crowd going, sometimes it needs to be the other way round.
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Post by andrewguk on Aug 18, 2014 13:46:57 GMT
Very true & it's all Dave Kitson's fault
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Post by 1raytuper on Aug 18, 2014 13:56:46 GMT
For a bear pit you need a pit and a bear. All the pits closed down some time ago and bears haven't been seen for centuries. What we do have is a stadium and a great crowd, but the crowd performs best when the team does. Not rocket science. I know where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree, last season we had our best to date in recent times and the atmosphere was still pretty poor most of the time, expectation is killing it, while there's nothing wrong with expecting a little more these days, the crowd shouldn't just sit back and wait for it to happen then make a noise, it should start way before. some people on ere were actually talking about a possible top 6 finish,even more were convinced we would qualify for europe,all this on the back of us signing bojan,who is unproven in the prem,diouf ,who failed last time in the prem,and sidwell and bardsley who are average prem players.i believe that the "stokies" with the highest expectations this season are the most blinkered amongst us or the least clued up when it comes to football.
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Post by ruts66 on Aug 18, 2014 14:06:39 GMT
The noise only really comes when there's some outrageous injustice or when we truly hate the opposition, e.g., Arsenal...
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Post by Davef on Aug 18, 2014 14:35:11 GMT
I know where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree, last season we had our best to date in recent times and the atmosphere was still pretty poor most of the time, expectation is killing it, while there's nothing wrong with expecting a little more these days, the crowd shouldn't just sit back and wait for it to happen then make a noise, it should start way before. some people on ere were actually talking about a possible top 6 finish,even more were convinced we would qualify for europe,all this on the back of us signing bojan,who is unproven in the prem,diouf ,who failed last time in the prem,and sidwell and bardsley who are average prem players.i believe that the "stokies" with the highest expectations this season are the most blinkered amongst us or the least clued up when it comes to football. Why do you keeping typing Stokies in inverted commas? Fans might have outlandish ideas of where their team could finish and some may talk shite, but it doesn't make them any less a Stokie.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 18, 2014 14:40:29 GMT
Prawn sarnies and voting Tory by the Boothen Enders next?
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Post by thevoid on Aug 18, 2014 14:47:23 GMT
Prawn sarnies and voting Tory by the Boothen Enders next? I'm a Tory voter and I like seafood (not on a buttie though)...
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Post by nott1 on Aug 18, 2014 14:49:50 GMT
Prawn sarnies and voting Tory by the Boothen Enders next? I'm a Tory voter and I like seafood (not on a buttie though)... See, it's started already!
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Post by 1raytuper on Aug 18, 2014 15:42:30 GMT
some people on ere were actually talking about a possible top 6 finish,even more were convinced we would qualify for europe,all this on the back of us signing bojan,who is unproven in the prem,diouf ,who failed last time in the prem,and sidwell and bardsley who are average prem players.i believe that the "stokies" with the highest expectations this season are the most blinkered amongst us or the least clued up when it comes to football. Why do you keeping typing Stokies in inverted commas? Fans might have outlandish ideas of where their team could finish and some may talk shite, but it doesn't make them any less a Stokie. i consider a fan who gives the team vocal support more of a stokie than the "stokie" who thinks his mere presence is enough .ask the players which "stokie" they would prefer to be in the seats.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 10:11:22 GMT
I'm prepared every game to shout and sing, but they've got to give us something to sing about. I repeat, that was poor fare on Saturday! I said to my brother in the first half, I don't like the way this is going, and the second half, there just wasn't enough fight and passion showed by the team. Sorry!
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Post by staffordpotter78 on Aug 19, 2014 10:27:52 GMT
Likely to get criticised for this but hey ho, I think the reason the atmosphere has gone massively down hill is since the south stand started trying to start songs. They'll start singing out of synch with the boothen, nobody else in the other stands knows who to join in with and think f**k it and sit back down.
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Post by 1raytuper on Aug 19, 2014 15:49:55 GMT
I'm prepared every game to shout and sing, but they've got to give us something to sing about. I repeat, that was poor fare on Saturday! I said to my brother in the first half, I don't like the way this is going, and the second half, there just wasn't enough fight and passion showed by the team. Sorry! granted,it is easier to give vocal support when the team gives the fans something to sing about,but a proper "supporter" gets behind his team vocally even when the team is not performing well. too many "stokies" are expecting too much this season.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 19, 2014 16:09:07 GMT
Our crowd is more complacent now.
One of the best atmospheres at The Britannia in recent years came with a small crowd and Stoke trailing 2-0.
If you were among the 11 or 12,000 who watched that game versus bottom of the table Scunthorpe in around January 2008, you'll remember that despite losing and playing fairly poorly, the team were absolutely roared back onto the pitch for the second half. The effect on both teams was amazing and at opposite end of the psychological spectrum.
Lawrence, Fuller, Cresswell and the rest of the team tore into Scunthorpe who visibly withered. 20 minutes into the second half we were 3-2 up and had had a goal disallowed.
The home crowd makes a huge difference - we shouldn't underestimate it.
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Post by Maccca100 on Aug 19, 2014 16:23:47 GMT
Our crowd is more complacent now. One of the best atmospheres at The Britannia in recent years came with a small crowd and Stoke trailing 2-0. If you were among the 11 or 12,000 who watched that game versus bottom of the table Scunthorpe in around January 2008, you'll remember that despite losing and playing fairly poorly, the team were absolutely roared back onto the pitch for the second half. The effect on both teams was amazing and at opposite end of the psychological spectrum. Lawrence, Fuller, Cresswell and the rest of the team tore into Scunthorpe who visibly withered. 20 minutes into the second half we were 3-2 up and had had a goal disallowed. The home crowd makes a huge difference - we shouldn't underestimate it. Have to admit that was amazing. Struggling like fuck, wank first half, everyone was so pissed off at half time. THEN, the players walked out for the 2nd half and that roar and noise was unreal. That's teamwork
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Post by Davef on Aug 19, 2014 16:26:45 GMT
Our crowd is more complacent now. One of the best atmospheres at The Britannia in recent years came with a small crowd and Stoke trailing 2-0. If you were among the 11 or 12,000 who watched that game versus bottom of the table Scunthorpe in around January 2008, you'll remember that despite losing and playing fairly poorly, the team were absolutely roared back onto the pitch for the second half. The effect on both teams was amazing and at opposite end of the psychological spectrum. Lawrence, Fuller, Cresswell and the rest of the team tore into Scunthorpe who visibly withered. 20 minutes into the second half we were 3-2 up and had had a goal disallowed. The home crowd makes a huge difference - we shouldn't underestimate it. Cool story, but there were nearly 21,000 in the ground that night.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 19, 2014 16:41:31 GMT
The Stoke crowd will be more noisy when we are the underdogs, so the higher we go in the league there are likely to be more games that will be quiet because we expect to roll over teams below us, it's the price of success.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:50:30 GMT
The Stoke crowd will be more noisy when we are the underdogs, so the higher we go in the league there are likely to be more games that will be quiet because we expect to roll over teams below us, it's the price of success. Probably tree that mate
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 19, 2014 16:53:17 GMT
Our crowd is more complacent now. One of the best atmospheres at The Britannia in recent years came with a small crowd and Stoke trailing 2-0. If you were among the 11 or 12,000 who watched that game versus bottom of the table Scunthorpe in around January 2008, you'll remember that despite losing and playing fairly poorly, the team were absolutely roared back onto the pitch for the second half. The effect on both teams was amazing and at opposite end of the psychological spectrum. Lawrence, Fuller, Cresswell and the rest of the team tore into Scunthorpe who visibly withered. 20 minutes into the second half we were 3-2 up and had had a goal disallowed. The home crowd makes a huge difference - we shouldn't underestimate it. Cool story, but there were nearly 21,000 in the ground that night. In that case I stand corrected on the crowd. I remember it was part of a two match special - Crystal Palace, another 3-2 victory in different circumstances?
Despite your patronising comment, the point is that the team's performance shouldn't matter.
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Post by ************** on Aug 19, 2014 17:02:15 GMT
On Saturday, the Villa fans were louder than us, stuck at it for longer and got their reward. I can only recall one really convicted Delilah and my little girl, who had heard so much about the Stoke crowd was at her first game. She said to me after that she thought it was fairly quiet. The crowd makes a massive difference to our game and we have to accept that we will probably never get back to the raucous happy chaos of those first two Premiership seasons. The players were very flat and we wouldn't have scored in 6 hours on Saturday. Having said that, i've stood in the old Boothen End with 12,000 other Stokies, watching us struggle against sides like Oldham in nothing games and we were ear splitting. Over the last six years our club has shed its skin once before. When we went from relegation favourites to mid table-survivalists. And this summer we've shed our skin for a second time. We are now tipped as a top 8 side, a potential "best of the rest" and that is very much uncharted territory for 90% of Stokies. I simply can't remember the last time we started a season in the top flight when the weight of expectation on our shoulders was quite this high. Many of us, myself included, were predicting a 3-0, 2-0, 3-1 against Aston Villa. Yes, a guaranteed win against Aston Villa. In short, I think we are suffering with a mini identity crisis. We need to get to know this team and i'm sure we will, but last Saturday nothing clicked. Like the team, we are a little out of our depth and just like the team, the crowd also has to find its way. But we will, and come the end of the season this Villa game may very well be regarded as something of a gift, providing we can learn from it as a club.
It's great to be a Stokie, it just feels a bit weird.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 17:15:30 GMT
My God there's some shite on this thread. There's sweeping statements and generalisations which are quite ridiculous. To suggest you are less of a fan if you don't sing or shout is just plain stupid. It just gets worse and worse, apparently it's The South Stands fault, whatever next? The Salavation Army band? I've read some crap on here but as a plethora of complete bollocks this is head and shoulders above the rest.
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Post by stokie25 on Aug 19, 2014 17:16:42 GMT
Expectation was high on Saturday without a doubt. It cast a nervous tension around the ground that, as the game progressed, became more anxious. As ************** has rightly highlighted, we hardly know the team, and they hardly know us. Would you jump on a girl you had only just met hoping the louder you were, the more she'd perform? ....Actually, best not to answer that! ??? I always maintained that Hughes needed at least 2 seasons to prove his mettle, he overran my expectations in one, so I'm as guilty as anybody else for expecting much more last weekend than we got. I've given myself a reality check since then, and will support the club the best way I can next game, I'm sure we'll all do the same. Too soon to right the fans off as gloryhunters/prawn sandwich brigade etc....we're just hopeful and nervous...nowt wrong with that, I suspect Hughes and the new signings feel the same Edit: I've always hated the term 'Bear Pit', it makes us sound like neanderthals
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