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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 7:06:24 GMT
Can't answer the questions can you. .? Like to insinuate racism don't you. ? Like to muddy the water.... Snipe and avoid . Duck and dive.... Bullshitter and a coward....caught with your trousers down. Go and soak your arse in some icecubes Any respect I had for you has gone after this and your other rants on the Gaza thread. Call yourself a socialist....I think not comrade. I couldn't give a toss quite frankly. I have no intention to defend animal cruelty, criminal damage or theft that is committed on a daily basis along with the obligatory shitting everywhere even though toilets are provided by the council. You and your socialist key board warrior friend were given the opportunity to see the error of your ways by coming and seeing the problem for yourself , but you declined. Your friend seemed to suggest that it was all a figment of my imagination and that I was untrustworthy. I have no time or patience for bullshitters and people like you whose only aim is to try and discredit the other because they can't come up with anything better to use to try and win an argument that is not winnable. Socialism is about helping others in need. It is not about aiding and abetting serious crime as described by myself above. These are people who inflict pain on innocent animals on a daily basis and as a result I hope that they and their evil shitty families rot in hell. They have no humanity or decency whatsoever. Mumf
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 7:14:27 GMT
Jul 4, 2014 at 9:00am northwichstokie likes this. Quote Edit Post by mumf on Jul 4, 2014 at 9:00am Jul 4, 2014 at 8:56am @************** said: Jul 4, 2014 at 8:48am mumf said: Coincidently .....there was a similar incident on Marsh lane Frodsham two weeks ago which the police have an incident number for. A Staffy type dog attacked a pensioner and her small jack Russell. The owner was described as male and in his twenties. Neither have been seen since and there is a gypsy site less than 150 yards away. This information can be checked out with Frodsham police who are investigating the horrifying incident. I knew you'd come good on this Mumf. I'lll pass that on - thanks mate. The incident actually took place on Marsh lane Frodsham and was only two weeks ago. The pensioners dog was actually killed as a result of puncture wounds . I would urge anyone interested in this case to show Cheshire Police the picture on here and if need be they can contact me personally. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/232175/dangerous-dog?page=1#ixzz3AFnLfIKLSo , there you go. Here's an example of what I was talking about above. This is not a rant , this is a fact. This is something that anyone can check out by ringing the police. It has a crime report number.
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Post by elsidibe on Aug 13, 2014 8:07:40 GMT
While we're on the subject of bullshitters, have you located that "Case Proven" evidence to back up your anti-semitism accusations about me yet? This is the fourth time I've asked for it now. The thing is, when you make palpably untrue personal accusations about other posters, how can we know which bits of your posts are real and which bits are invented for effect? Can't answer the questions can you. .? Like to insinuate racism don't you. ? Like to muddy the water.... Snipe and avoid . Duck and dive.... Bullshitter and a coward....caught with your trousers down. Go and soak your arse in some icecubes I can answer your questions just fine, and I can even do it without recourse to personal insults; but I don't see why I should until you've answered the ones that I asked of you first. Not unreasonable is it? You could, of course, simply retract your anti-semitism/pro-Hamas accusations - there's really no shame in admitting you're wrong.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 13, 2014 10:39:59 GMT
No I don't see many gypsies where I live but have done work for some and found them to be decent, there is also some gypsies that I would not want to have any sort of contact with, but the same could be said of anyone, group , nationality etc. Some camped by my workshop once, they sent the children in to ask for water, I said no problem use that tap there, the women then came over and ask if they could you use the toilets that where attached to the outside of the workshop again I said no problem as long as they were kept clean, they stayed for around a month and there was no problems What qualifies you to comment gypsy was a spelling mistake, ha ha Once again do you live in the UK ?. This happened in Burslem
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 13, 2014 11:05:43 GMT
Once again do you live in the UK ?. This happened in Burslem
So you don't live in the UK then, thought so.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 13, 2014 11:21:16 GMT
So you don't live in the UK then, thought so.
So nothing qualifies you to comment, thought so
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 13, 2014 11:40:45 GMT
So you don't live in the UK then, thought so.
So nothing qualifies you to comment, thought so
I have had plenty of experience of the pikeys that live in the UK, never met a decent law abiding one yet, I continue to see the evidence of what they do in the UK as I live here, is breaking the law OK with you, my aunty ran a pub by the gypo camp at Peakcocks Hay for three years before she was driven out by them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 11:44:27 GMT
I can vouch for them being polite, all smiles and charming.....as long as you're saying yes
Try saying no
I have a mate....a dodgie mate, (bit of a Del Boy, not bad) who used to deal with them on a kind of regular basis visiting them over in Ireland He told me that on occasions people have gone in to their camp and never come out
It very nearly happened to him
He now has a scar from his temple to his throat through saying no to them
At least he lived so they can't be so bad
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 13, 2014 11:49:59 GMT
So nothing qualifies you to comment, thought so
I have had plenty of experience of the pikeys that live in the UK, never met a decent law abiding one yet, I continue to see the evidence of what they do in the UK as I live here, is breaking the law OK with you, my aunty ran a pub by the gypo camp at Peakcocks Hay for three years before she was driven out by them.
Breaking the law is wrong
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 13, 2014 12:08:22 GMT
Any respect I had for you has gone after this and your other rants on the Gaza thread. Call yourself a socialist....I think not comrade. I couldn't give a toss quite frankly. I have no intention to defend animal cruelty, criminal damage or theft that is committed on a daily basis along with the obligatory shitting everywhere even though toilets are provided by the council. You and your socialist key board warrior friend were given the opportunity to see the error of your ways by coming and seeing the problem for yourself , but you declined. Your friend seemed to suggest that it was all a figment of my imagination and that I was untrustworthy. I have no time or patience for bullshitters and people like you whose only aim is to try and discredit the other because they can't come up with anything better to use to try and win an argument that is not winnable. Socialism is about helping others in need. It is not about aiding and abetting serious crime as described by myself above. These are people who inflict pain on innocent animals on a daily basis and as a result I hope that they and their evil shitty families rot in hell. They have no humanity or decency whatsoever. Mumf I didn't decline your invitation, I explained that I didn't need to. I'm still waiting for you to answer my question, if these unspeakable acts were committed by non travellers would you also subject them to the justice you so ably describe? Will you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 12:47:19 GMT
I couldn't give a toss quite frankly. I have no intention to defend animal cruelty, criminal damage or theft that is committed on a daily basis along with the obligatory shitting everywhere even though toilets are provided by the council. You and your socialist key board warrior friend were given the opportunity to see the error of your ways by coming and seeing the problem for yourself , but you declined. Your friend seemed to suggest that it was all a figment of my imagination and that I was untrustworthy. I have no time or patience for bullshitters and people like you whose only aim is to try and discredit the other because they can't come up with anything better to use to try and win an argument that is not winnable. Socialism is about helping others in need. It is not about aiding and abetting serious crime as described by myself above. These are people who inflict pain on innocent animals on a daily basis and as a result I hope that they and their evil shitty families rot in hell. They have no humanity or decency whatsoever. Mumf I didn't decline your invitation, I explained that I didn't need to. I'm still waiting for you to answer my question, if these unspeakable acts were committed by non travellers would you also subject them to the justice you so ably describe? Will you? If anyone attempted any act of violence on me or my animals I would exert sufficient force for them to require facial reconstructive surgery the likes of which You'd have to see to believe. I once dislocated and broke a social workers arm in Chester who was trying to escape from a shoplifting spree in the Precinct circa 1984 and was knocking mothers and young children out of the way as he tried to escape . When the case to come to court I received special praise from the judge for my actions and a cash reward in conjunction with Browns . At the time I did not know why he was running away , but took exception to his violent escape plans...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:10:13 GMT
Eye of the tiger eh
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 13, 2014 19:48:38 GMT
I have had plenty of experience of the pikeys that live in the UK, never met a decent law abiding one yet, I continue to see the evidence of what they do in the UK as I live here, is breaking the law OK with you, my aunty ran a pub by the gypo camp at Peakcocks Hay for three years before she was driven out by them.
Breaking the law is wrong Do you include trespass as law breaking ?, fly tipping in a public place ?, urinating in a public place ?, defecating in a public place ?, driving a vehicle on the public highway with no insurance ?, cruelty/neglect towards animals ?, claiming benefits whilst working cash in hand ?, gaining money using threatening behaviour/language ?, defrauding members of the public gaining money by deception ?, tax avoidance ?, the list goes on and on, as a law abiding citizen of the UK if I was to carry out any of these offences I would if caught be arrested charged and convicted, what do you think
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 13, 2014 22:11:46 GMT
Breaking the law is wrong Do you include trespass as law breaking ?, fly tipping in a public place ?, urinating in a public place ?, defecating in a public place ?, driving a vehicle on the public highway with no insurance ?, cruelty/neglect towards animals ?, claiming benefits whilst working cash in hand ?, gaining money using threatening behaviour/language ?, defrauding members of the public gaining money by deception ?, tax avoidance ?, the list goes on and on, as a law abiding citizen of the UK if I was to carry out any of these offences I would if caught be arrested charged and convicted, what do you think Yes you should be charged and convicted when did you do all of this
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2014 6:32:48 GMT
Do you include trespass as law breaking ?, fly tipping in a public place ?, urinating in a public place ?, defecating in a public place ?, driving a vehicle on the public highway with no insurance ?, cruelty/neglect towards animals ?, claiming benefits whilst working cash in hand ?, gaining money using threatening behaviour/language ?, defrauding members of the public gaining money by deception ?, tax avoidance ?, the list goes on and on, as a law abiding citizen of the UK if I was to carry out any of these offences I would if caught be arrested charged and convicted, what do you think Yes you should be charged and convicted when did you do all of this Can you read or is English not your first language.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Aug 14, 2014 7:16:36 GMT
I didn't decline your invitation, I explained that I didn't need to. I'm still waiting for you to answer my question, if these unspeakable acts were committed by non travellers would you also subject them to the justice you so ably describe? Will you? If anyone attempted any act of violence on me or my animals I would exert sufficient force for them to require facial reconstructive surgery the likes of which You'd have to see to believe. I once dislocated and broke a social workers arm in Chester who was trying to escape from a shoplifting spree in the Precinct circa 1984 and was knocking mothers and young children out of the way as he tried to escape . When the case to come to court I received special praise from the judge for my actions and a cash reward in conjunction with Browns . At the time I did not know why he was running away , but took exception to his violent escape plans... Batmumf. :-)
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 14, 2014 8:56:53 GMT
Yes you should be charged and convicted when did you do all of this Can you read or is English not your first language. Why are you asking the obvious would it be a problem if English was not my first language
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2014 11:00:07 GMT
Can you read or is English not your first language. Why are you asking the obvious would it be a problem if English was not my first language Do you know the meaning of the word IF and in what context it is used , no it wouldn't be a problem but it may explain a few things
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 14, 2014 11:02:15 GMT
Anyone exhibiting anti-social behaviour in this country should be subject to the laws that apply in terms of punishment. What disgusts me is the comments on here from some suggesting treatment no better than Nazi Germany.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 14, 2014 12:04:09 GMT
Why are you asking the obvious would it be a problem if English was not my first language Do you know the meaning of the word IF and in what context it is used , no it wouldn't be a problem but it may explain a few things I am sure that I do but you can explain it to me if you think able to do so and what things would it explain
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:11:14 GMT
Anyone exhibiting anti-social behaviour in this country should be subject to the laws that apply in terms of punishment. What disgusts me is the comments on here from some suggesting treatment no better than Nazi Germany. i don't know what you mean Huddy.....surely by now we all know the first rule of the Oatcake: If you have met a few people of one particular group in society you are therefore allowed to judge every single member of that group worldwide based on the actions of the few and can therefore label them all as "Scum", "Gypos" and "Pikeys" and act as if every single one of them are the same and are not individual people in any way e.g. anecdotal evidence passed down from families about one group of travellers who have broken the law = every single traveller in the UK is a thuggish, layabout, habitual criminal and should therefore be rounded up and herded off to some other land so they don't taint our perfect, harmonious, hard working and never shirking population of full rounded individuals who never cheat the system, commit crime or urinate in public (which has now been lumped in with other offences as being just as bad...because of course, no non-travelling english male has EVER had a piss in public after a night down the pub...everyone knows it just the "Gypos" that do that!!!) now, can we please, please,please get back on track with the uninformed, narrow minded barracking and stereotyping........please?
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 14, 2014 14:30:08 GMT
Anyone exhibiting anti-social behaviour in this country should be subject to the laws that apply in terms of punishment. What disgusts me is the comments on here from some suggesting treatment no better than Nazi Germany. If they (won't call them gypsy, as they're about as romany as my pet cat) pitched up near to you would you want them moved on as soon as possible? would you double check that you'd locked up at night? I'm yet to meet anyone who can say hand on heart no to either. Trust me you wouldn't be popping round for a cup of sugar. Some years ago I worked for a fencing contractor. Wherever these people turned up was great for business. Not so good for the local businesses or residents though. The filth and trouble caused wherever they were had to be seen to be believed.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2014 14:38:57 GMT
Do you know the meaning of the word IF and in what context it is used , no it wouldn't be a problem but it may explain a few things I am sure that I do but you can explain it to me if you think able to do so and what things would it explain Not sure explaining anything to you will work, it explains what I thought about you, now I am bored with your question for a question ta ra non Uk resident try an ESOL course that may help
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 14, 2014 14:42:06 GMT
Anyone exhibiting anti-social behaviour in this country should be subject to the laws that apply in terms of punishment. What disgusts me is the comments on here from some suggesting treatment no better than Nazi Germany. If they (won't call them gypsy, as they're about as romany as my pet cat) pitched up near to you would you want them moved on as soon as possible? would you double check that you'd locked up at night? I'm yet to meet anyone who can say hand on heart no to either. Trust me you wouldn't be popping round for a cup of sugar. Some years ago I worked for a fencing contractor. Wherever these people turned up was great for business. Not so good for the local businesses or residents though. The filth and trouble caused wherever they were had to be seen to be believed. Now Romany Gypsy's different gravy, the pikey irish in the UK are in no way the same animal.
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Post by marwood on Aug 14, 2014 21:15:46 GMT
I wonder if this memory from 1996 has any bearing on the matter. At school our PE teacher Arma Pharr banned any kind of goal celebration during competitive football matches. I made the school team just as goal celebrations were taking off in a big way, the bare minimum was shirt over head and arm waggle. By this stage you may recall it had began to get completely out of hand. Arma came in (we called him self) half way through term as a new PE & technical drawing teacher with a reputation as a bit of a hard case. He immediately took a dislike to this nonsense and said all goal celebrations were banned, and that should a player score a goal, the only reaction allowed would be head down, roll up shirtsleeves, and run silently and earnestly back to the centre circle. He did relent a bit later and say bebeto style baby celebrations were allowed but only if you had just become a father yourself, which of course, only a couple of us had. Anyway, one lad challenged all of this, a classmate of ours called Elvis Presley Monroe Price. His unique goal celebration was to pull his shorts and pants down and take a tom tit right there on the pitch after netting. In deference to Arma, he alway ran back to the centre circle first before logging. It was amazing how the guy could almost curl one out at will; he would often do it in the park or in the playground, and as a player with a half decent strike rate, it could often be 2 or 3 times a day. As can be imagined, Arma went mental when EPM did it during an inter-school semi and he was immediately sent off for an early bath. However, things then took a bizarre turn as EPM threatened to take Arma Pharr and the school to court for breach of human rights, as he claimed it as his cultural heritage to defecate in the open air. Now I'm not definitely sure if Elvis was from a travelling family, but I strongly suspect he was. In the end, he settled out of court but Arma was sacked. He had to retrain and eventually became an IT consultant. It would help to clarify things or get a second opinion if we have any followers of Southend as a second team on here. Perhaps confirmed Romany Freddie Eastwood has done something similar and been caught on camera to verify this cultural trait.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 14, 2014 21:31:28 GMT
I wonder if this memory from 1996 has any bearing on the matter. At school our PE teacher Arma Pharr banned any kind of goal celebration during competitive football matches. I made the school team just as goal celebrations were taking off in a big way, the bare minimum was shirt over head and arm waggle. By this stage you may recall it had began to get completely out of hand. Arma came in (we called him self) half way through term as a new PE & technical drawing teacher with a reputation as a bit of a hard case. He immediately took a dislike to this nonsense and said all goal celebrations were banned, and that should a player score a goal, the only reaction allowed would be head down, roll up shirtsleeves, and run silently and earnestly back to the centre circle. He did relent a bit later and say bebeto style baby celebrations were allowed but only if you had just become a father yourself, which of course, only a couple of us had. Anyway, one lad challenged all of this, a classmate of ours called Elvis Presley Monroe Price. His unique goal celebration was to pull his shorts and pants down and take a tom tit right there on the pitch after netting. In deference to Arma, he alway ran back to the centre circle first before logging. It was amazing how the guy could almost curl one out at will; he would often do it in the park or in the playground, and as a player with a half decent strike rate, it could often be 2 or 3 times a day. As can be imagined, Arma went mental when EPM did it during an inter-school semi and he was immediately sent off for an early bath. However, things then took a bizarre turn as EPM threatened to take Arma Pharr and the school to court for breach of human rights, as he claimed it as his cultural heritage to defecate in the open air. Now I'm not definitely sure if Elvis was from a travelling family, but I strongly suspect he was. In the end, he settled out of court but Arma was sacked. He had to retrain and eventually became an IT consultant. It would help to clarify things or get a second opinion if we have any followers of Southend as a second team on here. Perhaps confirmed Romany Freddie Eastwood has done something similar and been caught on camera to verify this cultural trait.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 14, 2014 23:35:35 GMT
If they (won't call them gypsy, as they're about as romany as my pet cat) pitched up near to you would you want them moved on as soon as possible? would you double check that you'd locked up at night? I'm yet to meet anyone who can say hand on heart no to either. Trust me you wouldn't be popping round for a cup of sugar. Some years ago I worked for a fencing contractor. Wherever these people turned up was great for business. Not so good for the local businesses or residents though. The filth and trouble caused wherever they were had to be seen to be believed. Now Romany Gypsy's different gravy, the pikey irish in the UK are in no way the same animal. so what is the difference and is there a difference between pikey Irish, pikey English, Welsh, Scotish etc, pikey as in your words not mine
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 14, 2014 23:42:49 GMT
I am sure that I do but you can explain it to me if you think able to do so and what things would it explain Not sure explaining anything to you will work, it explains what I thought about you, now I am bored with your question for a question ta ra non Uk resident try an ESOL course that may help What have you thought,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 23:47:04 GMT
Now Romany Gypsy's different gravy, the pikey irish in the UK are in no way the same animal. so what is the difference and is there a difference between pikey Irish, pikey English, Welsh, Scotish etc, pikey as in your words not mine Enlightening times ....I always thought a pikey was a pikey .....There is much to be learned on the Oatcake !
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 14, 2014 23:53:13 GMT
so what is the difference and is there a difference between pikey Irish, pikey English, Welsh, Scotish etc, pikey as in your words not mine Enlightening times ....I always thought a pikey was a pikey .....There is much to be learned on the Oatcake ! Bispham, you learn something new every day , if you don't, its been a bad day, that's what a gypsy told me ,
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