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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 31, 2014 9:15:02 GMT
...........Begovic........... Bardsley..Shawcross..Huth..Pieters .......N'zonzi..Cameron...... .Odemwingie.Ireland.Arnautovic. Bojan
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 31, 2014 9:27:44 GMT
Bego Cameron Shawcross Wilson Muniesa Whelan Nzonzi Odemwingie Bojan Arnautovic Crouch
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Jul 31, 2014 9:34:20 GMT
What are your thoughts on having only one DM at home games we should be winning and two for away games and trickier homes? Frees up another attacking option, dare I say an attacking 4132?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 31, 2014 9:38:47 GMT
I don't think we should start the season with too many changes from the team that ended the season! We had a very good run after Christmas so therefore my team would be like this (at least if we don't bring in somebody awsome). ...................Bego............... Bardsley..Shawcross...Wilson...Pieters ........N'Zonzi...........Whelan...... Odemwingie.......Ireland.........Arnie ..................Diouf............... Subs (a pick between these): Sorro, Huth, Cameron, Muniesa, Texeira, Sidwell, Adam, Walters, Crouch.(Butland (loan out), Wilko (loan out), Shotton (offload), Shea (offload), Jerome (offload), Palacios (offload). No Bojan even on the bench? I certainly meant to put him on the bench, but forgot him. I don't think he should be in our starting 11 yet by the way! Hopefully he'll come good and be the coup of the season!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 31, 2014 9:43:18 GMT
Begovic Bardsley-Huth-Shawcross-Pieters Whelan-N'Zonzi Odemwingie-Ireland-Arnie Diouf
SUBS Sorensen-Cameron-Wilson-Sidwell-Bojan-Assaidi(?)-Crouch
*Just realised no Muniesa or Adam on the bench.
This sub business is going to be tricky!
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Post by larstoke on Jul 31, 2014 9:51:37 GMT
Begovic Cameron-Huth-Shawcross-Muniesa Whelan/Sidwell-Nzonzi Ireland Bojan Arnautovic Diouf
Diouf was bad at the wing, Bojan could do a job there I reckon. Feel like we can't bench either, and Ireland looked really really good against Schalcke. Would even considering playing Ireland out wide.
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Jul 31, 2014 10:55:22 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Huth Shawcross Pieters
Whelan. N'Zonzi
Ireland. Arnie
Bojan Diouf
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 31, 2014 11:09:09 GMT
Gotta be expecting Bojan to start up front
Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters Nzonzi Sidwell Odemwingie Ireland Arnie Bojan
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 31, 2014 12:13:16 GMT
Bego
Cameron Shawcross Muniesa Pieters
Arnie Whelan N'Zonzi Ireland
Bojan Diouf
A bench containing Bardsley, Wilson, Huth, Adam, Odem and Crouch is pretty impressive.
I think Cameron has earned the right to start the season but Bardsley will be straight in if Geoff falters. Likewise Odem probably doesn't deserve to start on the bench but you've just got to put Bojan in!!
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Post by samwidge on Jul 31, 2014 12:43:30 GMT
Begovic Wilson shawcross huth muniesa Sidwell nzonzi Odemwingie Ireland arnie Diouf
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 31, 2014 13:02:36 GMT
...........Begovic........... Bardsley..Shawcross..Huth..Pieters .......N'zonzi..Cameron...... .Odemwingie.Ireland.Arnautovic. Bojan How come you think we should drop one of our best players last season?
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Post by coyneypotter on Jul 31, 2014 13:18:52 GMT
For the first game I would go with Bego Cameron Ryan Huth Pieters NZonzi Sidwell Bojan Ireland Arnie Diouf
Soro Butland Muni Bardsley Whelan Adam Odemwingie Walters Wilson wilko crouch are all players that are capable of being first team picks and make our squad really strong
Attempt to Bring in Assidi if not have a look at Shea maybe for the 23rd place and offload the remaining players ness,edu,jerome, palacios and any other dead wood that are still on the wage bill.
Edit i forgot texeira who again I don't know much about but from reports should be on the fringes of the first team if Ryan or Huth get injured or pick up suspensions which they will over a course of a season.
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Post by gravyboatstokie on Jul 31, 2014 13:20:33 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters
Whelan Sidwell
Arnie Ireland Bojan
Diouf
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2014 13:37:10 GMT
Can't believe that people are suggesting playing 3 at the back just so they can accommodate all their favourite offensive players into the team.
I think it's way too early to suggest starting XI's and maybe even Hughes doesn't know himself yet.
Indeed there's every chance that there won't be a regular starting XI at all and Hughes will be regularly changing things depending on the opposition.
Bojan is a completely different kettle of fish to what we've seen at Stoke before, his best position playing as a false number 9 yet hardly anybody is suggesting playing him as one.
I think we will most certainly have to get used to seeing very big names on the bench next season and it's a bit folly to think that we need to try and cram them all into the same starting XI.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 31, 2014 13:41:56 GMT
Bego
Bards Ryan Muni Pieters
Whelan Zonz
Arnie Ireland Odemwingie
Bojan
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Post by redwhite on Jul 31, 2014 14:02:29 GMT
Begovic Cameron Shawcross Huth Muniesa Whelan N'zonzi Sidwell Ireland Bojan Odemwingie Diouf Arnautovic How did I do?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 31, 2014 14:20:21 GMT
It's rayt good looking forward to a season where the starting XI has elements of unpredictability. A team with genuine competition for places, and a management team with the technical and tactical nouse to et as things stand {if the Villa gameup in a way to exploit the vulnerabilities of the opposition. I also feel extremely positive about the new flexibility of the attack, less of a regimented approach to positioning. And the flexibility to mix up the formation and make changes even during the 90. ---------Begovic--------- Cameron Shawcross Muniesa ----------Whelan---------- -------N'Zonzi Ireland---- Odemwingie Crouch Arnautovic -----------Diouf----------- Loads of scope for changes from the bench.. Truly exciting times. Crouch doesn't have the legs to play there, I think that's one of the craziest suggestions I've seen. I was suggesting a flexible 3-5-2 kind of approach, with Odemwingie and Arnautovic showing more than capable at tracking back. Crouch covered more miles per game than any of our team each game he played last season. His legs/stamina is less of an issue than his speed. I like Crouch's ability to hold the ball up, his experience, insight and quality touch will be a boon with quick players like Ireland and Diouf etc around him. I envisage him being more of a fulcrum/pivot to the orward play, than someone picking up the ball deep and running with it. We never get the best out of Crouch as a line leader, solo front man, and his defensive strengths at corners etc is undervalued. {Particularly important with the three at the back.} I wasn't just trying to shoehorn Crouchie in, unlike many on here I havn't given up on him. I hope we're now able to use him more sparingly {he looked jaded at the tail end of last year}, but if he stays 'm looking forward to a rejuvenation with quicker, better quality buzzing around him. I just feel that Villa, although showing potential two years ago, havn't moved on, or indeed have declined so Attack, Attack, Attack!
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Post by Discovery Stoke on Jul 31, 2014 14:38:42 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Huth Shawcross Pieters
Whelan. N'Zonzi
Ireland. Arnie
Bojan Diouf
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 14:44:03 GMT
What are your thoughts on having only one DM at home games we should be winning and two for away games and trickier homes? Frees up another attacking option, dare I say an attacking 4132? Sidwell playing along side NZonzi might be an option. He's much more of a box to box player
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 31, 2014 15:10:23 GMT
Can't believe that people are suggesting playing 3 at the back just so they can accommodate all their favourite offensive players into the team. I think it's way too early to suggest starting XI's and maybe even Hughes doesn't know himself yet. Indeed there's every chance that there won't be a regular starting XI at all and Hughes will be regularly changing things depending on the opposition. Bojan is a completely different kettle of fish to what we've seen at Stoke before, his best position playing as a false number 9 yet hardly anybody is suggesting playing him as one. I think we will most certainly have to get used to seeing very big names on the bench next season and it's a bit folly to think that we need to try and cram them all into the same starting XI. Agreed, and I think Hughes will go with most of the team that ended last season so well to start this one. Amazing how many seem to forget that Odemwingie is by far our best option on the right side of the attack - maybe because he has not reappeared yet. Bojan will be eased into things off the bench to start with, I feel, and only Bardsley and Diouf have a realistic chance of a start v Villa. Whatever the selection, we will definitely see more 14 man performances and rotation from game to game this season, with such a strong bench.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 31, 2014 16:08:02 GMT
So to summarise: There are ONLY 3 players that everyone agrees should start Bego Shawcross Arnie The bench is going to be full of players who would expect to start. There are going to be at least 3 big name players who are not even going to make the bench.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 31, 2014 16:50:12 GMT
Crouch doesn't have the legs to play there, I think that's one of the craziest suggestions I've seen. I was suggesting a flexible 3-5-2 kind of approach, with Odemwingie and Arnautovic showing more than capable at tracking back. Crouch covered more miles per game than any of our team each game he played last season. His legs/stamina is less of an issue than his speed. I like Crouch's ability to hold the ball up, his experience, insight and quality touch will be a boon with quick players like Ireland and Diouf etc around him. I envisage him being more of a fulcrum/pivot to the orward play, than someone picking up the ball deep and running with it. We never get the best out of Crouch as a line leader, solo front man, and his defensive strengths at corners etc is undervalued. {Particularly important with the three at the back.} I wasn't just trying to shoehorn Crouchie in, unlike many on here I havn't given up on him. I hope we're now able to use him more sparingly {he looked jaded at the tail end of last year}, but if he stays 'm looking forward to a rejuvenation with quicker, better quality buzzing around him. I just feel that Villa, although showing potential two years ago, havn't moved on, or indeed have declined so Attack, Attack, Attack! I'm guessing most of Crouch's distance was probably going down the pitch to defend a corner , I've not given up on him, he'll be sound as a target to hit in the last few mins if we need a goal but I can't see him as anything more. Personally I hope we never play 3 at the back, it's a personal thing but I just can be doing with it, mostly because it turns to easily into 5 at the back when you're playing a team with wingers, I think the system we use now is perfect and there's no need to change it, but I can see where you're coming from, it's just wouldn't be my preference.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 31, 2014 17:26:00 GMT
...........Begovic........... Bardsley..Shawcross..Huth..Pieters .......N'zonzi..Cameron...... .Odemwingie.Ireland.Arnautovic. Bojan How come you think we should drop one of our best players last season? I'd just like to see Cameron in that position
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Post by humblepieeater on Jul 31, 2014 17:50:00 GMT
Begovic Cameron Shawcross Huth Muniesa Whelan N'zonzi Sidwell Ireland Bojan Odemwingie Diouf Arnautovic How did I do? You make it look easy! I think we may need to ask for a rule change.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 31, 2014 18:02:29 GMT
To be very honest, I haven't a clue what our best eleven is. Without Bojan, you would make a fair stab at the eleven being something like:
Bego, Bardsley, Shawcross, Huth, Pieters, Whelan, N'Zonzi, Ireland, Odemwingie, Arnie, Diouf
With subs: Sorensen, Wilko, Wilson, Sidwell, Adam, Crouch, Walters
With Bojan, however, I jave no idea who makes way and I guess we'll see a lot of squad rotation. One thing stands out for me though, and that's that Diouf was almost certainly brought in as our main forward and will have been sold the club as our main forward. Whrre does that leave Bojan? In a way, it's an interesting test for Hughes, not unlike the Tuncay situation.
I'm sure he has a plan and knows what he's doing, I'm just desperate to know what it is!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 31, 2014 18:09:32 GMT
3 at the back is wank.
I have a feeling the definite starters are as follows;
Bego
Bardsley Shawcross Wilson ?
Whelan Fonz
? Ireland Arnie
Diouf
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 31, 2014 18:17:56 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on Jul 31, 2014 18:23:27 GMT
Team vs Villa
Gk - Begovic
Rb - Cameron Lb - Pieters Cb - Huth Cb - Shawcross
Cm - N'Zonzi Cm - Whelan
Am - Ireland
Fwd - Arnie Fwd - Diouf Fwd - Bojan
Subs
Sorenson Wilson Sidwell Odemwingie Crouch Muniesa Adam
*Unless we sign someone then all change*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 18:24:51 GMT
3 at the back is wank. I have a feeling the definite starters are as follows; Bego Bardsley Shawcross Wilson ? Whelan Fonz ? Ireland Arnie Diouf The next few friendlies will tell us more but I reckon Wilson will be out and Huth in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 18:25:13 GMT
As it stands I think it will be Bego Bardsley huth Ryan pieters
Nzonzi Whelan Ireland Bojan Diouf Arnie
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