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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 26, 2014 22:44:25 GMT
I'm worried Hughes will try and shoehorn Bojan into the starting eleven at the detriment of the team.
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Post by Gods on Jul 26, 2014 22:59:20 GMT
I'm worried Hughes will try and shoehorn Bojan into the starting eleven at the detriment of the team. You may as well just come out and say he shouldn't have bought him in the first place if that is the page you are on.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 26, 2014 23:01:16 GMT
I'm worried Hughes will try and shoehorn Bojan into the starting eleven at the detriment of the team. I'm worried he'll try to shoehorn Wilko in then if that's the case.
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Post by march4 on Jul 26, 2014 23:01:41 GMT
We desperately need a right winger. I think Odemwingie can take up that roll but an out and out right winger is essential to the development of the squad. Odem was one of the most effective right sided players at the WC. The solution is already at the club.
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Post by Pirate on Jul 26, 2014 23:10:42 GMT
We desperately need a right winger. I think Odemwingie can take up that roll but an out and out right winger is essential to the development of the squad. Odem was one of the most effective right sided players at the WC. The solution is already at the club. He still needs competition though mate, neither wide player has a fight on there hands at present & that isnt healthy. I am sure the gaffer will get at least one in before the bell though.
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Post by bostonstokie on Jul 27, 2014 1:58:10 GMT
Ive had a chance to think things through and we need permission to have a starting 12 and I think we could do ok. Begovic Cameron huth shawcross pieters Whelan nzonzi Odemwingie ireland arnautovic Bojan diouf. Replacement back ups of Butland Bardsley tex wilson muniesa ? Sidwell ? Adam ? Crouch Nah, leave Whelan out, N'zonzi can do it by himself back there...
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Jul 27, 2014 2:53:27 GMT
It's only a frendly, let's take it for what is was, a game to build up fitness and thats what we are doing. Les is having a look at his whole squad and come a couple of weeks he will have a great idea of who to keep and who to go. A host of Prem teams are losing all over the place so who cares about the result. The big result is the 16th August. No win or loss in friendlies is going to get us points for the season, so who cares what the score is against 1860.
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Post by Maccca100 on Jul 27, 2014 6:12:51 GMT
Why give players who will be no where near the first 16 never mind the first 11 so much pitch time.
If Shotton, Wilkinson, Shea, ness make 10 squads between them then something is wrong.
All 4 are not even championship standard
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 6:23:34 GMT
This was an exercise in allowing squad players to have a run out., an experiment for others to see what they're like early doors.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 27, 2014 6:47:37 GMT
We desperately need a right winger. I think Odemwingie can take up that roll but an out and out right winger is essential to the development of the squad. Odem was one of the most effective right sided players at the WC. The solution is already at the club. I agree about Wingie - although he isn't a specialist right winger, he does a decent job there. Wingie has great pace - but when he isn't on the field through injury or illness, the only alternative is Walters who has no pace at all. I can see why successive managers have valued Walters, but we really can't afford to be without pace on the right and we do need a specialist alternative to complement Wingie. I'm confident that we will get another wide man in - possibly two - before the end of the window.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 27, 2014 6:59:07 GMT
Odem was one of the most effective right sided players at the WC. The solution is already at the club. I agree about Wingie - although he isn't a specialist right winger, he does a decent job there. Wingie has great pace - but when he isn't on the field through injury or illness, the only alternative is Walters who has no pace at all. I can see why successive managers have valued Walters, but we really can't afford to be without pace on the right and we do need a specialist alternative to complement Wingie. I'm confident that we will get another wide man in - possibly two - before the end of the window. the thing about winge is not only can he do the job on the wingie he is also our most gifted forward untill proved otherwise, its a win win
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 7:27:02 GMT
Why are people worrying about players getting game time who won't be playing, players playing in wrong positions. More so why are people worrying about losing to a team on the equivalent of a posh Sunday league pitch.
This whole trip is about getting the lads together, team bonding and fitness. These games in Germany are just to dust off the cobwebs and let the lads have a kick about. The results are a non story.
Also to whoever asked why give players who won't make the 16 on match day so much game time. Because they're part of the squad, because due to possible injuries they may be called upon and it would be pretty amateurish if they hadn't kicked a ball in a friendly all summer.
You will start to see the shape and possible starting 11 by the time we play the likes of Blackburn and Real Betis.
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2014 7:36:59 GMT
Why give players who will be no where near the first 16 never mind the first 11 so much pitch time. If Shotton, Wilkinson, Shea, ness make 10 squads between them then something is wrong. All 4 are not even championship standard They need to be fit for other clubs to want them, loan or buy etc. clubs won't want to wait a few weeks to get them fit, we all used to get frustrated waiting for some of our new signings to get 'Stoke fit'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 7:45:01 GMT
Why give players who will be no where near the first 16 never mind the first 11 so much pitch time. If Shotton, Wilkinson, Shea, ness make 10 squads between them then something is wrong. All 4 are not even championship standard They need to be fit for other clubs to want them, loan or buy etc. clubs won't want to wait a few weeks to get them fit, we all used to get frustrated waiting for some of our new signings to get 'Stoke fit' I know you have a keen eye where fitness and fatness are concerned , but did you see how many fat Germans there were watching the match.? Hopefully their kids will grow up the same and never be able to run about like our lot...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 7:50:16 GMT
This is the one reason why letting people watch friendlies is a bad idea.
Play them all behind closed doors and let us worry about something else.
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Post by geoff321 on Jul 27, 2014 8:01:57 GMT
All football results matter, as all performances do, even when kids are playing in the street with jackets as goalposts.
Let's stop denying defeats of any sort don't hurt or that it doesn't raise doubts a few in our minds about the coming season, the only way to sort this is to do well in the next match and then any concerns and disappointments will be all blown away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 8:03:04 GMT
This thread confirms that Stoke City FC really does have a ridiculous amount of know nothing,knicker wetting imbeciles following them.
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Post by 2004 on Jul 27, 2014 8:08:14 GMT
Nothing to worry about yet. I'm looking forward to seeing us at full strength.
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2014 8:09:37 GMT
They need to be fit for other clubs to want them, loan or buy etc. clubs won't want to wait a few weeks to get them fit, we all used to get frustrated waiting for some of our new signings to get 'Stoke fit' I know you have a keen eye where fitness and fatness are concerned , but did you see how many fat Germans there were watching the match.? Hopefully their kids will grow up the same and never be able to run about like our lot... No, I'm working over in belfast the weekend, tried to catch the end of it but couldn't get a stream. I can see why there are so many 'larger than life characters' over here, have you ever had a Belfast pastie? Somebody had one for lunch yesterday with chips, when they said pastie I was expecting a good old cornish one, but no it was basically a meat and potato burger, deep fried
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Post by Maccca100 on Jul 27, 2014 8:26:25 GMT
Why give players who will be no where near the first 16 never mind the first 11 so much pitch time. If Shotton, Wilkinson, Shea, ness make 10 squads between them then something is wrong. All 4 are not even championship standard They need to be fit for other clubs to want them, loan or buy etc. clubs won't want to wait a few weeks to get them fit, we all used to get frustrated waiting for some of our new signings to get 'Stoke fit' Do you have that concerns over Jerome? No as they will still train and get match fit with the u21s We are building for a season where players need to know the ins and outs of the team mates? What did Bojan learn yesterday playing with Shots and Wilko barring that they are gash
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Post by vpinpeace on Jul 27, 2014 8:42:43 GMT
Bojan isn't made for the premier league. Some of the bed wetting on here is justified..
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 27, 2014 8:47:36 GMT
They need to be fit for other clubs to want them, loan or buy etc. clubs won't want to wait a few weeks to get them fit, we all used to get frustrated waiting for some of our new signings to get 'Stoke fit' Do you have that concerns over Jerome? No as they will still train and get match fit with the u21s We are building for a season where players need to know the ins and outs of the team mates? What did Bojan learn yesterday playing with Shots and Wilko barring that they are gash I can't think of a better way to organise an UNSUCCESSFUL training camp in a foreign country than to take 24 or so players away and then, in the first two friendlies, give only 11 - 15 of them most of the game time. Surely the whole point of taking the squad (not just the first team) away is to: 1. Get everyone fit after their break 2. Assess the fitness and form of all of them 3. Keep them all motivated 4. Assess who might be ready to break into the first team squad and who, of the first team squad, is not cutting the mustard.I expect that the final game of the tour will see those closest to the first team getting an hour or so of game time which should mean that the team will look better balanced than it has done in the first two games. I'm glad it is Mark Hughes and his team who are organising this training camp and not some people on this board!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 8:48:11 GMT
Bojan isn't made for the premier league. Some of the bed wetting on here is justified.. How strange that a Port Vale supporter would post such a thing. You must be on a wind-up, funny that considering what's happened to Vale...again! You'll be over the moon with signing Michael Brown, now that's a proper signing.
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Post by minnierover on Jul 27, 2014 8:48:18 GMT
This thread confirms that Stoke City FC really does have a ridiculous amount of know nothing,knicker wetting imbeciles following them. Or that quite a few watched the game and are just commenting on what they saw. Just like Hughes and co will be doing today. If Bowen suggested Bojan was a little of the pace and will need sharpening up plus a bit of gym work do you think Hughes would have called him a knicker wetting imbecile. If you only want to hear positive, sycophantic type posts then don't come on here.
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Post by Maccca100 on Jul 27, 2014 8:50:02 GMT
Do you have that concerns over Jerome? No as they will still train and get match fit with the u21s We are building for a season where players need to know the ins and outs of the team mates? What did Bojan learn yesterday playing with Shots and Wilko barring that they are gash I can't think of a better way to organise an UNSUCCESSFUL training camp in a foreign country than to take 24 or so players away and then, in the first two friendlies, give only 11 - 15 of them most of the game time. Surely the whole point of taking the squad (not just the first team) away is to: 1. Get everyone fit after their break 2. Assess the fitness and form of all of them 3. Keep them all motivated 4. Assess who might be ready to break into the first team squad and who, of the first team squad, is not cutting the mustard.I expect that the final game of the tour will see those closest to the first team getting an hour or so of game time which should mean that the team will look better balanced than it has done in the first two games. I'm glad it is Mark Hughes and his team who are organising this training camp and not some people on this board. Did I say play only 11 to 15. Players aren't stupid. Fringe players which Shotton, Wilko, ness, Shea are not even that should get 30 mins tops
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Post by vpinpeace on Jul 27, 2014 8:52:07 GMT
Bojan isn't made for the premier league. Some of the bed wetting on here is justified.. How strange that a Port Vale supporter would post such a thing. You must be on a wind-up, funny that considering what's happened to Vale...again! You'll be over the moon with signing Michael Brown, now that's a proper signing. Nothing wrong with Michael Brown at L1 level.. He would probably do a better job in the prem than Whelan does. Bojan is a good player but the premier league will stifle him.
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Post by Davef on Jul 27, 2014 8:52:58 GMT
Bojan isn't made for the premier league. Neither is David Silva.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 8:54:00 GMT
How strange that a Port Vale supporter would post such a thing. You must be on a wind-up, funny that considering what's happened to Vale...again! You'll be over the moon with signing Michael Brown, now that's a proper signing. Nothing wrong with Michael Brown at L1 level.. He would probably do a better job in the prem than Whelan does. Bojan is a good player but the premier league will stifle him. That's just, i mean, what can you say....i mean, what can you say?
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Post by vpinpeace on Jul 27, 2014 8:54:27 GMT
Bojan isn't made for the premier league. Neither is David Silva. You can't compare the two. David Silva is World Class.
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Post by vpinpeace on Jul 27, 2014 8:55:46 GMT
Nothing wrong with Michael Brown at L1 level.. He would probably do a better job in the prem than Whelan does. Bojan is a good player but the premier league will stifle him. That's just, i mean, what can you say....i mean, what can you say? No but seriously I hope he turns out the player that he's always promised to be.
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