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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2014 16:32:16 GMT
Move on
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 1, 2014 19:03:42 GMT
Should have gone in 100% for Redmond long ago! Do you KNOW we didn't? No, but I got the impression Assaidi is first choice, and if we only bid £3M for redmond as quoted I'll say we haven't gone 100% for this!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 1, 2014 19:47:56 GMT
Stoke Loud & Proud 4 mins · Edited · More talks have taken place with Assaidi and his Agent. Stoke were informed that his agent is prepared to lower his demands so a meeting has taken place, seems he has lowered them but not enough for Stoke's liking. Looks like it still no nearer, the saga continues (Marc) Taking that as true (given who it's from that's far from likely), we should walk away now, his price was to much imo and now it seems are his wage demands, how much time do we want to waste running after him, better to look at other options.
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 1, 2014 20:28:28 GMT
Stoke Loud & Proud 4 mins · Edited · More talks have taken place with Assaidi and his Agent. Stoke were informed that his agent is prepared to lower his demands so a meeting has taken place, seems he has lowered them but not enough for Stoke's liking. Looks like it still no nearer, the saga continues (Marc) Taking that as true (given who it's from that's far from likely), we should walk away now, his price was to much imo and now it seems are his wage demands, how much time do we want to waste running after him, better to look at other options. You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 1, 2014 20:41:47 GMT
Taking that as true (given who it's from that's far from likely), we should walk away now, his price was to much imo and now it seems are his wage demands, how much time do we want to waste running after him, better to look at other options. You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. just to confirm, are his wages now at an acceptable level, but stoke think the agent's fee is too steep? ( sorry if im being thick)
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 1, 2014 20:43:34 GMT
Taking that as true (given who it's from that's far from likely), we should walk away now, his price was to much imo and now it seems are his wage demands, how much time do we want to waste running after him, better to look at other options. You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems.If YOU actually know the reason why he's still not signed we'd all love to hear it! But as you don't I won't bother wait for a reply I'm to busy getting pissed in Zante :-)
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 1, 2014 20:46:28 GMT
You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. just to confirm, are his wages now at an acceptable level, but stoke think the agent's fee is too steep? ( sorry if im being thick) I'm in Zante so not in the loop atm but yeah that seems the case from what Marc as said.
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 1, 2014 20:50:28 GMT
You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. just to confirm, are his wages now at an acceptable level, but stoke think the agent's fee is too steep? ( sorry if im being thick) From what we were told, Assaidi's agent was asking for to much, Wednesday we were told his agent was going to reduce his demands, and a further meeting has taken place, Assaidi's agent has reduce his terms but is still more than Stoke are willing to pay.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 1, 2014 20:54:35 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 1, 2014 20:54:50 GMT
just to confirm, are his wages now at an acceptable level, but stoke think the agent's fee is too steep? ( sorry if im being thick) From what we were told, Assaidi's agent was asking for to much, Wednesday we were told his agent was going to reduce his demands, and a further meeting has taken place, Assaidi's agent has reduce his terms but is still more than Stoke are willing to pay. Cheers mate
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 1, 2014 20:59:22 GMT
Taking that as true (given who it's from that's far from likely), we should walk away now, his price was to much imo and now it seems are his wage demands, how much time do we want to waste running after him, better to look at other options. You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. You haven't been right yet, non of what you've said has been proven. Edit: I have no problem if you ever turn out to be right.
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Post by bassmaster on Aug 1, 2014 21:18:39 GMT
You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. You haven't been right yet, non of what you've said has been proven. Edit: I have no problem if you ever turn out to be right. So, when do you have a problem. Apologies if the rhetorical essence of this question muddies the waters for you.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 1, 2014 21:22:26 GMT
You haven't been right yet, non of what you've said has been proven. Edit: I have no problem if you ever turn out to be right. So, when do you have a problem. Apologies if the rhetorical essence of this question muddies the waters for you. Awwwww, look, hes got a fwend.
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 1, 2014 21:33:51 GMT
You don't like it when one of the lads are right do you? I said two weeks ago personal terms were an issue before I went on my holibobs :-) But it's his agent now who's causing the problems. You haven't been right yet, non of what you've said has been proven. Edit: I have no problem if you ever turn out to be right. If you say so :-) btw you've never posted anything right? sorry to piss on your flaps :-)
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Post by bassmaster on Aug 1, 2014 21:41:18 GMT
So, when do you have a problem. Apologies if the rhetorical essence of this question muddies the waters for you. Awwwww, look, hes got a fwend. Any chance of having that in 'adult'?
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Post by arby on Aug 1, 2014 21:43:56 GMT
The same agent who gave crewe £100,000 of his own money to sell pogba, we may as well walk away now he's fucking crazy.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 1, 2014 21:47:09 GMT
You haven't been right yet, non of what you've said has been proven. Edit: I have no problem if you ever turn out to be right. If you say so :-) btw you've never posted anything right? sorry to piss on your flaps :-) I've never pretended to be itk unlike your good self.
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 1, 2014 21:51:39 GMT
If you say so :-) btw you've never posted anything right? sorry to piss on your flaps :-) I've never pretended to be itk unlike your good self. None of us have EVER said we're itk we just have contacts that are, hope that's clear enough for you:-)
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 1, 2014 21:53:07 GMT
The same agent who gave crewe £100,000 of his own money to sell pogba, we may as well walk away now he's fucking crazy. Mino is a difficult agent to do deals with, and Scholes has recently said that the deal is complicated and he is the main reason
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Post by arby on Aug 1, 2014 22:01:02 GMT
My understanding is similar, knowing how he demanded things this week at crewe we should move on and make a stand against this vile parasite on the beautiful game
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 1, 2014 22:08:43 GMT
The plus side with Assaidi is that we know him, he's done relatively well for us, and fitted in well with the squad, and I think he wants to play for us.
The downside is that his agent is trying to take Stoke for mugs, and we're not playing ball. He'll lower his demands to make them acceptable enough to us in the very near future.
If he doesn't then not really a great loss, as the player isn't a world beater, and we'll pick someone else up of similar quality.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 1, 2014 22:12:57 GMT
At the end of the day Assaidi should be in the driving seat as he employs the agent. That being the case he should say that he is happy with the deal and sign on the dotted, then leave the agent to fight it out with Stoke for HIS fee . Sorted!
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 1, 2014 22:20:46 GMT
At the end of the day Assaidi should be in the driving seat as he employs the agent. That being the case he should say that he is happy with the deal and sign on the dotted, then leave the agent to fight it out with Stoke. Sorted! That is basically what is happening, but a deal cannot be sealed unless the agent is happy with his cut, an agent is part of a deal and not an accessory
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Post by owdestokie on Aug 1, 2014 22:25:32 GMT
An old Saying "He who has the desire to acquire" is normally the loser when haggling/negotiating Just a thought
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 1, 2014 22:29:50 GMT
Sign up or fuck off to Liverpool Reserves
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 1, 2014 23:02:11 GMT
At the end of the day Assaidi should be in the driving seat as he employs the agent. That being the case he should say that he is happy with the deal and sign on the dotted, then leave the agent to fight it out with Stoke for HIS fee . Sorted! The agents fee is part of the contract, a deal cannot be done without his agent accepting his cut. An agent gets an agreed percentage of the players contract plus signing on fee. Say signing on fee is £1mill and he is in £40k a week for 4 years if the agent get 10% of that which is a conservative guess the agent would get £932k On top. It's the percentage that the agent wants that causes problems as it can vary between 5% and 45% depending on how greedy an agent is and how good he thinks he is.
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Post by armitagestokie on Aug 1, 2014 23:05:51 GMT
Agree wiv Swampy!!!!
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Aug 1, 2014 23:09:56 GMT
This guy is becoming a pain in the assaidi ....Tell him to fuck off and lets move on. he's not that good
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 1, 2014 23:15:38 GMT
It will happen...we're just taking the agent to the cleaners. He knows it, but is just trying to save face!
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 1, 2014 23:16:51 GMT
At the end of the day Assaidi should be in the driving seat as he employs the agent. That being the case he should say that he is happy with the deal and sign on the dotted, then leave the agent to fight it out with Stoke for HIS fee . Sorted! The agents fee is part of the contract, a deal cannot be done without his agent accepting his cut. An agent gets an agreed percentage of the players contract plus signing on fee. Say signing on fee is £1mill and he is in £40k a week for 4 years if the agent get 10% of that which is a conservative guess the agent would get £932k On top. It's the percentage that the agent wants that causes problems as it can vary between 5% and 45% depending on how greedy an agent is and how good he thinks he is. £932k! That's more than I earn in a whole year!
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