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Post by fegghayze on Jul 22, 2014 22:18:19 GMT
Bojan will play on the wing so is he needed now??
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 22, 2014 23:04:55 GMT
I like the lad but we hold the cards here, we're not desperate and there's a bit yet to look for somone else, if he isn't going be reasonable then he can stay in the reserves at Liverpool.
I reckon he'll come round in the end
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 23:26:40 GMT
It begs the question how much does he want a week.? £50 k a week ?
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Post by Gods on Jul 22, 2014 23:39:28 GMT
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Post by GoBoks on Jul 23, 2014 1:50:39 GMT
Anyone notice the little box right at the bottom on the right ? ..... 6 top managers is the title never thought I'd see the day!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2014 6:17:49 GMT
3 million? Bargain or what?
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 23, 2014 6:21:16 GMT
3 million? Bargain or what? I was expecting at least 6 million.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 23, 2014 6:50:59 GMT
3 million? Bargain or what? I was expecting at least 6 million. I was expecting an up front payment of £3 million or lower. But I was also expecting some contingency payments (number of games, goals etc.) on top of that so I'm very happy with £3 million and no contingency payments. What we don't know, of course, is whether there is a percentage of any sell on profit due to Barca. There must surely be such a clause - but for what percentage?
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Post by jameselfletcher on Jul 23, 2014 12:57:30 GMT
Anyone notice the little box right at the bottom on the right ? ..... 6 top managers is the title never thought I'd see the day! Clicked on it and found that Hughes wasn't mentioned. It was TP, Rodgers, Martinez, Poyet, Pellegrini and Bruce. What a load of laughs!
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 23, 2014 13:01:41 GMT
Hes not even a guaranteed starter & if his agent is asking for 50k a week its madness.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 23, 2014 13:06:00 GMT
We hold all the cards - if Assaidi's agent is talking silly numbers, we already have Bojan and have plenty of time still to look around at the likes of Redmond etc. If we pass on him, he will be left looking at Holland again, where outside the top two/three the wages will not even match what we'll be prepare to pay him.
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Post by mightyone on Jul 23, 2014 13:28:40 GMT
On this deal we certainly do hold all the cards. Now if it is the agent and the player holding out for more money then iam afraid they are messing with the wrong chairman for sure. The player has said he really wants to come here and we don't here of any other interest from other clubs so on that point what does he really want ? I agree with other posts, either sign the deal or stoke city move on. Finally for what it's worth with what we already have, I would rather take a risk with Redmond for 5 - 6 million and maybe have a more valuable asset in 2 - 3 years time. Again that's just my opinion.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2014 13:37:31 GMT
We hold all the cards - if Assaidi's agent is talking silly numbers, we already have Bojan and have plenty of time still to look around at the likes of Redmond etc. If we pass on him, he will be left looking at Holland again, where outside the top two/three the wages will not even match what we'll be prepare to pay him. It does seem a bit mad on his part. Doesn't seem arrogant to suggest we're as good as it's going to get for him in terms of wage offers at this point. There's hardly going to be a stampede for him at £4.5m rising to £7m plus £1.5m+ in wages. When he was touting himself around in Holland 2 yrs ago, his best offer was reportedly Ajax at about £17,000-a-week. So surely Liverpool would only have had to top that marginally to win the day. I can't see any way he'll be on more than 25k-a-week there. God only knows what he's asking for from us. He probably thinks his hit-and-miss season last year means he should have a wage INCREASE here as he considers himself to now be a proven Premier League performer rather than a gamble coming from Heerenveen - which is barking mad but potentially how a footballer's mind works? But the fact is he's not even cracking their 33-man USA tour squad, and is presumably training with their reserves in Liverpool. Should be a bit of a wake-up call for him. He doesn't seem to be remotely in Rodgers' thoughts, and his leverage seems to be nil
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Post by nott1 on Jul 23, 2014 13:39:42 GMT
Bojan will play on the wing so is he needed now??[/quote ]Bojan is better as a second striker.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 23, 2014 13:42:05 GMT
We hold all the cards - if Assaidi's agent is talking silly numbers, we already have Bojan and have plenty of time still to look around at the likes of Redmond etc. If we pass on him, he will be left looking at Holland again, where outside the top two/three the wages will not even match what we'll be prepare to pay him. It does seem a bit mad on his part. Doesn't seem arrogant to suggest we're as good as it's going to get for him in terms of wage offers at this point. There's hardly going to be a stampede for him at £4.5m rising to £7m plus £1.5m+ in wages. When he was touting himself around in Holland 2 yrs ago, his best offer was reportedly Ajax at about £17,000-a-week. So surely Liverpool would only have had to top that marginally to win the day. I can't see any way he'll be on more than 25k-a-week there. God only knows what he's asking for from us. He probably thinks his hit-and-miss season last year means he should have a wage INCREASE here as he considers himself to now be a proven Premier League performer rather than a gamble coming from Heerenveen - which is barking mad but potentially how a footballer's mind works? But the fact is he's not even cracking their 33-man USA tour squad, and is presumably training with their reserves in Liverpool. Should be a bit of a wake-up call for him. He doesn't seem to be remotely in Rodgers' thoughts, and his leverage seems to be nil Maybe his agent has concluded that if he's presently worth double the transfer fee then he's also worth double the wages. He'd be wrong of course.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 23, 2014 13:55:18 GMT
The pizza boys are going to have a field day with this one. Can see us turning the screws on this deal. We shouldn't shell out one more farthing than we feel is fair value.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 23, 2014 15:36:20 GMT
The pizza boys are going to have a field day with this one. Can see us turning the screws on this deal. We shouldn't shell out one more farthing than we feel is fair value. When you see some of the money being spent on bang average players ( McCormack borini uuloa etc) to be able to dictate terms to a player is a great position to be in. Shows what a good job mark and the team have done so far in the transfer window.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 23, 2014 21:28:16 GMT
He won't be signed
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2014 16:35:07 GMT
Assuming the wage stand-off reports are true, wonder how long Stoke will give him to come to his senses before firmly moving on to Redmond or AN Other?
Once that happens, he'll be screwed.
His only hope will then be a loan elsewhere or Liverpool dropping the asking fee as August wears on and others hopefully show an interest. I'd be surprised if anyone else would stretch to anything like £4.5m rising to £7m for him. Only Premier League clubs would dream of spending that money on pretty much a non-essential signing
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 24, 2014 16:39:01 GMT
We should walk away, he wouldn't be a starter anyway with Arnie on the left, it's a lot of money for a bench player.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jul 24, 2014 16:40:11 GMT
According to Liverpool fans he is on less than £30k per week there but is asking a lot more from Stoke. A 5 grand increase a week should be plenty for him with an agreed review in 12months IF he performs. Once again a greedy agent ensures a decent player sits on the bench for another season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 16:41:24 GMT
According to Liverpool fans he is on less than £30k per week there but is asking a lot more from Stoke. A 5 grand increase a week should be plenty for him with an agreed review in 12months IF he performs. Once again a greedy agent ensures a decent player sits on the bench for another season. Correct and more fool the player.
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Post by werrington on Jul 24, 2014 16:41:49 GMT
We should walk away, he wouldn't be a starter anyway with Arnie on the left, it's a lot of money for a bench player. What if Arnie ( god forbid ) got a serious injury ? The cheap bench player is then our 1st choice
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 24, 2014 16:42:18 GMT
Assuming the wage stand-off reports are true, wonder how long Stoke will give him to come to his senses before firmly moving on to Redmond or AN Other? Once that happens, he'll be screwed. His only hope will then be a loan elsewhere or Liverpool dropping the asking fee as August wears on and others hopefully show an interest. I'd be surprised if anyone else would stretch to anything like £4.5m rising to £7m for him. Only Premier League clubs would dream of spending that money on pretty much a non-essential signing I think it's already time to move on and Redmond may develop to be a more robust player. It's a gamble either way but I truly believe Redmond is the lesser risk.
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Post by march4 on Jul 24, 2014 16:43:08 GMT
Assuming the wage stand-off reports are true, wonder how long Stoke will give him to come to his senses before firmly moving on to Redmond or AN Other? Once that happens, he'll be screwed. His only hope will then be a loan elsewhere or Liverpool dropping the asking fee as August wears on and others hopefully show an interest. I'd be surprised if anyone else would stretch to anything like £4.5m rising to £7m for him. Only Premier League clubs would dream of spending that money on pretty much a non-essential signing Exactly!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 16:44:09 GMT
hes definitely worth fighting for
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 24, 2014 16:44:38 GMT
According to Liverpool fans he is on less than £30k per week there but is asking a lot more from Stoke. A 5 grand increase a week should be plenty for him with an agreed review in 12months IF he performs. Once again a greedy agent ensures a decent player sits on the bench for another season. I'd go 35k at most and if he doesn't want it he can fuck off. He needs us way more than we need him
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Post by march4 on Jul 24, 2014 16:44:49 GMT
We should walk away, he wouldn't be a starter anyway with Arnie on the left, it's a lot of money for a bench player. What if Arnie ( god forbid ) got a serious injury ? The cheap bench player is then our 1st choice What if he has cost more than Arnie and is earning more per week?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 16:47:31 GMT
What if Arnie ( god forbid ) got a serious injury ? The cheap bench player is then our 1st choice What if he has cost more than Arnie and is earning more per week? I'd take that just for his pace alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 16:48:27 GMT
I seem to be one of the few people who wasn't fussed about signing him, especially when this ludicrous fee was suggested. I take nowt away from the glimpses he showed at times last season but i think we've been starved of a true winger for so long that we got carried away. That's the royal we. I don't actually know too much about this as i've been passively waiting for us to either sign him or not sign him but if he and his agent are asking for "too much" money and the fee is still ludicrous then for me just let Liverpool let him go back to Heerenveen or somewhere. It's crackers to spend that much on a substitute when there must be better option out there. Who? You may ask, well if you add up all competitive top flight clubs in the world and then go through them individually to find pacey and skilled wingers on their books. That's a good way to start. But scouts do that, not me.
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