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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:40:39 GMT
Makes me laugh how Hodgson sits drooling over Southampton but wouldn't give Shawcross a look in. He very rarely attends Stoke matches yet he has attended 14 games involving Southampton this season.
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Post by miltonpotterfan on Apr 26, 2014 22:43:44 GMT
Shawcross is overrated and wont ever make an England squad thats playing a competitive game
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:45:51 GMT
Shawcross is overrated and wont ever make an England squad thats playing a competitive game What a load of bollocks... |
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Post by miltonpotterfan on Apr 26, 2014 22:48:05 GMT
Give me an example of why its bollocks?
Take off ya tinted specs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:49:41 GMT
And Steven Caulker of Cardiff is better?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:55:55 GMT
If one of the top 6 teams signed him then I feel sure it would improve his chances immeasurably.
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Post by coates on Apr 26, 2014 23:17:15 GMT
Shawcross is overrated and wont ever make an England squad thats playing a competitive game He's a better defender than those currently in the squad. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Apr 26, 2014 23:21:39 GMT
Apparently, Woy is only allowed to travel a maximum 30 miles radius from where he lives.
For the record, does anyone know the precise whereabouts of the "Golden Pasture Care Home for Geriatrics"?
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Post by retired1 on Apr 27, 2014 0:10:28 GMT
Apparently, Woy is only allowed to travel a maximum 30 miles radius from where he lives. For the record, does anyone know the precise whereabouts of the "Golden Pasture Care Home for Geriatrics"? Near southampton docks apparently. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 27, 2014 1:01:34 GMT
Not surprised, they've got some very good English players in their side, I'm glad he's taking a look at them tbh and thinking of moving away from the standard names.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 27, 2014 4:00:33 GMT
I think if Hodgson wasn't going to watch a team who are promoting young English talent then he would quite rightly face criticism.
It's an absurd thing to be critical towards.
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 27, 2014 6:05:00 GMT
I think if Hodgson wasn't going to watch a team who are promoting young English talent then he would quite rightly face criticism. It's an absurd thing to be critical towards. Absolutely correct that he watches Southampton but constantly watching the same side shows a complete bias towards 1 club |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Apr 27, 2014 6:24:17 GMT
although most of us Stokies love our Ryan, very few others rate him.
I was on a train heading towards Cardiff last week and while chatting to a few strangers (Bath rugby fans) the words "slow" "physical" and "dirty" were the only ones they could use to describe our captain.
We did obviously try to put them right but we were fighting a losing battle.
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Post by redsaturday on Apr 27, 2014 6:27:32 GMT
Hodgson is doing what every England manager does which is be led by media.
As soon as he fucks it up they'll slaughter him.
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Post by Linx on Apr 27, 2014 6:41:47 GMT
Southampton v Everton ticks all the boxes for existing and potential England players, with their backbones of good English players. Stoke v Spurs doesn't: we have Ryan, end of, while Spurs has Dawson,Rose and Kane. Compared to Shaw, Lambert, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Rodriguez, Baines, Jagielka, Barkley, Barry? It would be worth watching Stoke games for Hodgson if he was the Ireland manager.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 27, 2014 7:43:49 GMT
Take ryan out of it. Its the fact that woy has been at 14 of their 18 home games.
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Post by retired1 on Apr 27, 2014 8:01:16 GMT
Everton looked shite on MOTD especially the English internationals.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 27, 2014 8:06:56 GMT
Talking of MOTD, no viewing of the Rose push?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 8:31:37 GMT
"Becoming the England manager is not so much about ones ability to do the job , but more about the recognition of a lifetime spent in a very well paid job called football."
Copyright@mumf.com
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 27, 2014 9:19:51 GMT
Hodgson is doing what every England manager does which is be led by media. As soon as he fucks it up they'll slaughter him. How exactly is he led by the media? |
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Apr 27, 2014 9:50:54 GMT
Southampton v Everton ticks all the boxes for existing and potential England players, with their backbones of good English players. Stoke v Spurs doesn't: we have Ryan, end of, while Spurs has Dawson,Rose and Kane. Compared to Shaw, Lambert, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Rodriguez, Baines, Jagielka, Barkley, Barry? It would be worth watching Stoke games for Hodgson if he was the Ireland manager. On the money.... |
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Post by chamberlain on Apr 27, 2014 10:01:37 GMT
although most of us Stokies love our Ryan, very few others rate him. I was on a train heading towards Cardiff last week and while chatting to a few strangers (Bath rugby fans) the words "slow" "physical" and "dirty" were the only ones tErhey could use to describe our captain. We did obviously try to put them right but we were fighting a losing battle. what makes Bath rugby fans experts on Shawcross |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Apr 27, 2014 10:15:22 GMT
no one said they were experts. They were voicing an opinion, one which seems to be general to many other than Stoke fans.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Apr 27, 2014 10:18:39 GMT
Southampton v Everton ticks all the boxes for existing and potential England players, with their backbones of good English players. Stoke v Spurs doesn't: we have Ryan, end of, while Spurs has Dawson,Rose and Kane. Compared to Shaw, Lambert, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Rodriguez, Baines, Jagielka, Barkley, Barry? It would be worth watching Stoke games for Hodgson if he was the Ireland manager. On the money.... I suppose the other 13 games weren't enough for him to make his judgement then. Strange, he seems pretty decided on Ryan after just 10 minutes against the best forward in world football. |
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Post by chamberlain on Apr 27, 2014 10:25:30 GMT
no one said they were experts. They were voicing an opinion, one which seems to be general to many other than Stoke fans. An opinion probably based on media reports etc , while i'm not saying Shawcross is good enough to play for England not sure Bath rugby fans will have seen that much of him |
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Apr 27, 2014 10:39:20 GMT
I suppose the other 13 games weren't enough for him to make his judgement then. Strange, he seems pretty decided on Ryan after just 10 minutes against the best forward in world football. Im not saying he isn't a cock for writing Ryan off..just that its no surprise that he wants to keep tabs on the form of potentially 5 or 6 of his World Cup Squad rather than an outside chance that one could have. |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Apr 27, 2014 12:41:27 GMT
no one said they were experts. They were voicing an opinion, one which seems to be general to many, other than Stoke fans. An opinion probably based on media reports etc , while i'm not saying Shawcross is good enough to play for England not sure Bath rugby fans will have seen that much of him you missed my point so I highlighted it for you. I live out of the Stoke area, I live in an area where people only ever see Ryan on the TV and I am constantly having to correct people on his abilities. I am sure if I lived surrounded by Stoke fans then I would only hear positive things like the majority on here. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Apr 27, 2014 13:42:09 GMT
Its people like Jodgson that alienate sipporters. I think England will be home on an early flight and I couldnt give a shit. Club all the way for me
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Post by redsaturday on Apr 27, 2014 15:01:48 GMT
Hodgson is doing what every England manager does which is be led by media. As soon as he fucks it up they'll slaughter him. How exactly is he led by the media? his total disregard for our captain, and the love in at southampton |
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 27, 2014 15:23:07 GMT
although most of us Stokies love our Ryan, very few others rate him. I was on a train heading towards Cardiff last week and while chatting to a few strangers (Bath rugby fans) the words "slow" "physical" and "dirty" were the only ones tErhey could use to describe our captain. We did obviously try to put them right but we were fighting a losing battle. what makes Bath rugby fans experts on Shawcross £@#&!ng Bath rugby fans, most of'em are gooners... |
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