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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 19:24:31 GMT
Go pour yourself another drink you fucking pisscan!!!!
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 22, 2014 19:29:38 GMT
Great - loads of disrespect for another Stoke hero because he doesnt say what you want him to. Cant we just leave anyone or anything alone anymore and treasure the memories? He's the one having a pop at the fans Wuzza. He's entitled to his opinion. Others are entitled to think it's a load of cock. Being a club legend doesn't make your views sacred, nor should it. Indeed. David Icke is probably one of Hereford United's most famous former players and I don't see their fans turning up to matches wearing turquiose shell suits and accusing the club chairman of being a shape-shifting, blood-drinking lizard.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 22, 2014 19:33:51 GMT
He's the one having a pop at the fans Wuzza. He's entitled to his opinion. Others are entitled to think it's a load of cock. Being a club legend doesn't make your views sacred, nor should it. Indeed. David Icke is probably one of Hereford United's most famous former players and I don't see their fans turning up to matches wearing turquiose shell suits and accusing the club chairman of being a shape-shifting, blood-drinking lizard. Maybe they should so they stop begging for money every 6 months!
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 22, 2014 19:40:29 GMT
Indeed. David Icke is probably one of Hereford United's most famous former players and I don't see their fans turning up to matches wearing turquiose shell suits and accusing the club chairman of being a shape-shifting, blood-drinking lizard. Maybe they should so they stop begging for money every 6 months! Too late for that. He's already given up the family jewels as an offering to his owl-god.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 19:41:46 GMT
I spoke to Huddy many times whilst he was living locally to me and he never had a good word to say about the product Pulis served up as football. He delighted in telling me how Stokies deserved better and his favourite line was always that Waddo would turn in his grave if he saw Pulis football at his beloved Stoke City. Hudson is doing what he can to earn some money so he can proceed to piss it up the wall as usual. His ramblings reflect nothing, least of all his own true feelings about Pulis and his time at Stoke City. He told me quite the opposite whilst drinking something and orange. Said he was doing 'a fackin blindin job'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 19:47:17 GMT
I spoke to Huddy many times whilst he was living locally to me and he never had a good word to say about the product Pulis served up as football. He delighted in telling me how Stokies deserved better and his favourite line was always that Waddo would turn in his grave if he saw Pulis football at his beloved Stoke City. Hudson is doing what he can to earn some money so he can proceed to piss it up the wall as usual. His ramblings reflect nothing, least of all his own true feelings about Pulis and his time at Stoke City. He told me quite the opposite whilst drinking something and orange. Said he was doing 'a fackin blindin job' By that he meant,a job that only a blind man could love
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Post by ricardocomeback on Apr 22, 2014 19:55:21 GMT
Huddy is bang on the button again. About time a former player told it how it is. Alan Hudson Stoke City Number 10!
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 22, 2014 20:00:42 GMT
Great - loads of disrespect for another Stoke hero because he doesnt say what you want him to. Cant we just leave anyone or anything alone anymore and treasure the memories? This. I don’t think what he says is anyway outrageous, surely he has a point........so why the abuse for a player who gave us so many great many memories to treasure? He may not be a great pundit (he’s hardly alone there!!!!) but deserves more respect for what he contributed to this club.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 22, 2014 20:01:10 GMT
Pulis fucked it up for himself with his continual, stubborn, mind-numbing tactics......if he'd have built on the way we played the season we reached the cup final playing with TWO wingers instead of reverting to just one winger, lumping it up to Crouch and the cage...... Maybe there wouldn't be any "Rimmers" or "PHW" we may all be as one!!!
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 22, 2014 20:02:30 GMT
He's the one having a pop at the fans Wuzza. He's entitled to his opinion. Others are entitled to think it's a load of cock. Being a club legend doesn't make your views sacred, nor should it. Indeed. David Icke is probably one of Hereford United's most famous former players and I don't see their fans turning up to matches wearing turquiose shell suits and accusing the club chairman of being a shape-shifting, blood-drinking lizard. What a ridiculous and ill thought out comparison. Are you seriously comparing what Icke contributed to Hereford with what Hudson contributed to Stoke!!!!! You need to do some serious research mate. Thinking his views are bollocks is one thing but there should be some respect for his phenomenal contribution to the club.
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Post by LDE76 on Apr 22, 2014 20:13:18 GMT
Indeed. David Icke is probably one of Hereford United's most famous former players and I don't see their fans turning up to matches wearing turquiose shell suits and accusing the club chairman of being a shape-shifting, blood-drinking lizard. What a ridiculous and ill thought out comparison. Are you seriously comparing what Icke contributed to Hereford with what Hudson contributed to Stoke!!!!! You need to do some serious research mate. Thinking his views are bollocks is one thing but there should be some respect for his phenomenal contribution to the club. I think the term is "whoosh"...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 21:00:16 GMT
Great - loads of disrespect for another Stoke hero because he doesnt say what you want him to. Cant we just leave anyone or anything alone anymore and treasure the memories? This. I don’t think what he says is anyway outrageous, surely he has a point........so why the abuse for a player who gave us so many great many memories to treasure? He may not be a great pundit (he’s hardly alone there!!!!) but deserves more respect for what he contributed to this club. Let him join genuine legends like Denis, Lou and TC and modern day players with great achievements like Higgy turned on like a farmer turns on his limping sheepdog with a shovel, all because they praised a job done by another genuine legend. Only at Stoke I reckon.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 22, 2014 21:03:20 GMT
This. I don’t think what he says is anyway outrageous, surely he has a point........so why the abuse for a player who gave us so many great many memories to treasure? He may not be a great pundit (he’s hardly alone there!!!!) but deserves more respect for what he contributed to this club. Let him join genuine legends like Denis, Lou and TC and modern day players with great achievements like Higgy turned on like a farmer turns on his limping sheepdog with a shovel, all because they praised a job done by another genuine legend. Only at Stoke I reckon. And Portsmouth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:07:03 GMT
This. I don’t think what he says is anyway outrageous, surely he has a point........so why the abuse for a player who gave us so many great many memories to treasure? He may not be a great pundit (he’s hardly alone there!!!!) but deserves more respect for what he contributed to this club. Let him join genuine legends like Denis, Lou and TC and modern day players with great achievements like Higgy turned on like a farmer turns on his limping sheepdog with a shovel, all because they praised a job done by another genuine legend. Only at Stoke I reckon. The problem with this whenever you spout it is you always lump in those daring to even disagree with them with the ones who dish out unnecessary abuse. It's possible to revere someone without thinking their every utterance is fucking nectar from above.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 21:12:59 GMT
Let him join genuine legends like Denis, Lou and TC and modern day players with great achievements like Higgy turned on like a farmer turns on his limping sheepdog with a shovel, all because they praised a job done by another genuine legend. Only at Stoke I reckon. The problem with this whenever you spout it is you always lump in those daring to even disagree with them with the ones who dish out unnecessary abuse. It's possible to revere someone without thinking their every utterance is fucking nectar from above. I'm not lumping everyone in though am I? Using a metaphor of a dog being turned on with a shovel perhaps indicates, I'm talking about the abuse that people will sling at anyone with even a mild pro Pulis stance regardless of their Stoke achievements. 80% of the responses on this thread talk about Hudson's drink problem, Lou was called a fraudulent little runt by some, Denis an arse crawling bastard and Conroy senile all for quite mild pro Pulis stances and that really is ONLY at Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 22, 2014 21:15:23 GMT
Let him join genuine legends like Denis, Lou and TC and modern day players with great achievements like Higgy turned on like a farmer turns on his limping sheepdog with a shovel, all because they praised a job done by another genuine legend. Only at Stoke I reckon. The problem with this whenever you spout it is you always lump in those daring to even disagree with them with the ones who dish out unnecessary abuse. It's possible to revere someone without thinking their every utterance is fucking nectar from above. I just don't like the bloke. I never saw him play which helps I guess and he puts himself in a position to be judged by those that never did. And we don't have that to blinker us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:15:57 GMT
I read an interview with Huddy a while back where he said that Pulis had always got time for him whenever he visited the ground. I reckon he's just returning the favour by showing a bit of loyalty towards him. Huddy always seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder about people who'd disregarded him after his playing days were over, so maybe his comments need to be seen in this light. I reckon he sees Pulis as someone who had time for him, that's all.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 22, 2014 21:16:33 GMT
The problem with this whenever you spout it is you always lump in those daring to even disagree with them with the ones who dish out unnecessary abuse. It's possible to revere someone without thinking their every utterance is fucking nectar from above. I'm not lumping everyone in though am I? Using a metaphor of a dog being turned on with a shovel perhaps indicates, I'm talking about the abuse that people will sling at anyone with even a mild pro Pulis stance regardless of their Stoke achievements. 80% of the responses on this thread talk about Hudson's drink problem, Lou was called a fraudulent little runt by some, Denis an arse crawling bastard and Conroy senile all for quite mild pro Pulis stances and that really is ONLY at Stoke. ONLY at Stoke with those particular names obviously. As I said, Portsmouth fans had very similar fallouts. Maybe at other clubs too but I saw the Pompey stuff at close quarters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:22:58 GMT
The problem with this whenever you spout it is you always lump in those daring to even disagree with them with the ones who dish out unnecessary abuse. It's possible to revere someone without thinking their every utterance is fucking nectar from above. I'm not lumping everyone in though am I? Using a metaphor of a dog being turned on with a shovel perhaps indicates, I'm talking about the abuse that people will sling at anyone with even a mild pro Pulis stance regardless of their Stoke achievements. 80% of the responses on this thread talk about Hudson's drink problem, Lou was called a fraudulent little runt by some, Denis an arse crawling bastard and Conroy senile all for quite mild pro Pulis stances and that really is ONLY at Stoke. It's not just the abuse though, you do it when anyone dares criticise what they actually say. Like this one as well: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/211139/denis-smith-talkshite-sports-bar?page=1#scrollTo=3796163You're not allowed to suggest a legend might be capable of talking shit like the rest of us without it being some kind of treasonous offence.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 21:24:54 GMT
I'm not lumping everyone in though am I? Using a metaphor of a dog being turned on with a shovel perhaps indicates, I'm talking about the abuse that people will sling at anyone with even a mild pro Pulis stance regardless of their Stoke achievements. 80% of the responses on this thread talk about Hudson's drink problem, Lou was called a fraudulent little runt by some, Denis an arse crawling bastard and Conroy senile all for quite mild pro Pulis stances and that really is ONLY at Stoke. ONLY at Stoke with those particular names obviously. As I said, Portsmouth fans had very similar fallouts. Maybe at other clubs too but I saw the Pompey stuff at close quarters. I don't get the comparison at all ely, although I'm well aware things went west and bitter at Portsmouth, he was only there for 10 months and achieved nothing. I can't imagine club legends taking an outlandish response either way to be honest.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 21:27:43 GMT
I'm not lumping everyone in though am I? Using a metaphor of a dog being turned on with a shovel perhaps indicates, I'm talking about the abuse that people will sling at anyone with even a mild pro Pulis stance regardless of their Stoke achievements. 80% of the responses on this thread talk about Hudson's drink problem, Lou was called a fraudulent little runt by some, Denis an arse crawling bastard and Conroy senile all for quite mild pro Pulis stances and that really is ONLY at Stoke. It's not just the abuse though, you do it when anyone dares criticise what they actually say. Like this one as well: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/211139/denis-smith-talkshite-sports-bar?page=1#scrollTo=3796163You're not allowed to suggest a legend might be capable of talking shit like the rest of us without it being some kind of treasonous offence. What's on that thread is worse than what's on this thread in terms of what is actually being levelled at the individual involved.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:31:36 GMT
What's on that thread is worse than what's on this thread in terms of what is actually being levelled at the individual involved. All of the stuff before you wade in with the 'c*** bingo' line is simply criticising what he's said.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 22, 2014 21:39:50 GMT
What's on that thread is worse than what's on this thread in terms of what is actually being levelled at the individual involved. All of the stuff before you wade in with the 'c*** bingo' line is simply criticising what he's said. Well if that thread was in isolation, you'd perhaps have a point. It was one of many threads where anyone writing anything remotely complimentary about the team or the manager at that time were rounded on in a pretty vicious manner, hence me being able to complete my four corners of cunt bingo! Of course the biggest hypocrisy lies in the fact that when there were some very mild, gentle moments of disquiet during the two long winless runs we've had this season, these very same supporters were suddenly the loyalist in the whole world, shouting platitudes about getting behind your man.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 22, 2014 21:41:32 GMT
Now Huddy was one of the best I have seen in the red and white
But he obviously was not at Palace away when we have the capped one a deserved ovation. Similarly he forgets when he stated in the past that the style was not easy on the eye
Shame he could not mention that the board decided to sack Pulis, not the fans and Sparky, despite many a concern, as done a great job and we are evolving
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Post by elystokie on Apr 22, 2014 21:44:34 GMT
ONLY at Stoke with those particular names obviously. As I said, Portsmouth fans had very similar fallouts. Maybe at other clubs too but I saw the Pompey stuff at close quarters. I don't get the comparison at all ely, although I'm well aware things went west and bitter at Portsmouth, he was only there for 10 months and achieved nothing. I can't imagine club legends taking an outlandish response either way to be honest. He took them from the bottom 3 to mid table before he had his contact terminated with Mandaric alleging mis-conduct. There, as with here, fans were divided by his tactic, with some just being grateful not to be relegated and others not being at all happy with the style of football. The fallout lasted well after he'd gone, I used to listen to the arguments frequently, I had mates who were Pompey fans, they weren't above using utterances from celebrity fans and players from the past to make their point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:46:22 GMT
All of the stuff before you wade in with the 'c*** bingo' line is simply criticising what he's said. Well if that thread was in isolation, you'd perhaps have a point. It was one of many threads where anyone writing anything remotely complimentary about the team or the manager at that time were rounded on in a pretty vicious manner, hence me being able to complete my four corners of cunt bingo! Of course the biggest hypocrisy lies in the fact that when there were some very mild, gentle moments of disquiet during the two long winless runs we've had this season, these very same supporters were suddenly the loyalist in the whole world, shouting platitudes about getting behind your man. As you rightly pointed out to me, there has been rank hypocrisy on both sides. What a pundit said should surely be judged in its context and on its merits though, not simply held up as untouchable because the person saying them is a legend. Michael Owen is England's fourth highest scorer ever and I couldn't give a tuppeny fuck about his opinion on literally anything other than perhaps who to have a tickle on in the 4:15 at Chepstow.
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 22, 2014 21:47:32 GMT
The best player by a country mile I have ever seen in a Stoke shirt who would not have fit very long in TP's cage. He'd have found himself dropped or shunted out to the wing.
Alan Hudson has a right to make a living. By spouting somewhat controversial views he gives himself a chance of making a better living.
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Post by craig67 on Apr 22, 2014 22:03:03 GMT
What a ridiculous and ill thought out comparison. Are you seriously comparing what Icke contributed to Hereford with what Hudson contributed to Stoke!!!!! You need to do some serious research mate. Thinking his views are bollocks is one thing but there should be some respect for his phenomenal contribution to the club. I think the term is "whoosh"... Some of our fans don't get irony do they?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Apr 22, 2014 22:20:20 GMT
Go pour yourself another drink you fucking pisscan!!!! We all say controversial things and talk tripe at some time or other - just like you clearly do. If you had seen him play - and the total commitment he gave in matches - you would never have described him in the foul manner that you have. We've had some really good players at Stoke but, with the greatest of respect to all those fine players, I haven't seen one that could come anywhere close to him. I think that decent manners cost nothing, nor does respect. Hudson has hardly said anything seriously derogatory towards Stoke fans. Please show some respect - Dickhead.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 22, 2014 23:17:25 GMT
Now Huddy was one of the best I have seen in the red and white But he obviously was not at Palace away when we have the capped one a deserved ovation. Similarly he forgets when he stated in the past that the style was not easy on the eye Shame he could not mention that the board decided to sack Pulis, not the fans and Sparky, despite many a concern, as done a great job and we are evolving if some of the fans had their way he would have gone the year before
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