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Post by BristolMick on Apr 16, 2014 22:36:33 GMT
Many on here have supported the club through good times and bad, and that includes getting behind all the players that put on a Stoke City shirt, even if they have bad days, and the manager even if he has bad results. Tony Pulis served Stoke well as a manager and delivered them good times, in my view although different views are what football is all about, the continual undermining of him as a person and manager by a few supporters is truly sad. Its little things like this that give you away as a pretender. Jog on. BM
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:37:13 GMT
I always hoped Pulis would do well at Palace, nows hes doing a bit too well i hope they start losing games! But it puts pressure on Hughes and in the long run we will do better under him.
I never understood why some so called Stoke supporters hate him so much (probably brainwashed by Sky into thinking theres a 'right way' to play), i am enjoying watching Pulis make these haters look like complete twats.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 16, 2014 22:37:20 GMT
The season 2012/13 at the end of February we would of needed 4 points to stay up from the remaining 12 games !!!
If you didn't know any better you'd have thought we stayed up by the hairs of our bollocks , which indeed is bollocks !
I've no problem with perception that out football was shit and on the decline ( not as much as we would have believe ) , but what I do have a problem with is that based on 18 games the prognosis was pulis had completly lost his way and would of inevitably led us to probable relegation , the overwhelming evidence is that pulis has ALWAYS ( contrary to belief ) pissed about with playing players out of position or not entirely suited to " the system " but he always found a way !
The notion that he couldn't or was unlikely to get results like he did previously in his stewardship is complete monkey spunk !
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Post by onlyjuanagudelo on Apr 16, 2014 22:38:15 GMT
So let me get this straight, Stoke fans love TP right? After all, we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for him. manager of the year for the incredible job he has done at Palace, shame we don't have him any more
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:39:19 GMT
The season 2012/13 at the end of February we would of needed 4 points to stay up from the remaining 12 games !!! If you didn't know any better you'd have thought we stayed up by the hairs of our bollocks , which indeed is bollocks ! I've no problem with perception that out football was shit and on the decline ( not as much as we would have believe ) , but what I do have a problem with is that based on 18 games the prognosis was pulis had completly lost his way and would of inevitably led us to probable relegation , the overwhelming evidence is that pulis has ALWAYS ( contrary to belief ) pissed about with playing players out of position or not entirely suited to " the system " but he always found a way ! The notion that he couldn't or was unlikely to get results like he did previously in his stewardship is complete monkey spunk ! But you were telling me the notion that we were going backwards and getting worse was a lie. The evidence doesn't say that. Something had to change because he wasn't getting results and we weren't scoring goals.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 16, 2014 22:41:13 GMT
10 pages, 'kin hell.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:41:44 GMT
It'd be good fun if Merkin saw this thread tomorrow, thought all his Christmases had come, and nobody replied.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:41:49 GMT
Pulis just "We have a different set of players here which allows me to play a different way to what we did at Stoke" Surely he can't be saying that he has better players to use at Palace given that he inherited a sinking ship, sunk without trace and without a cat in hells chance of survival. This can't be so surely??? He built the Stoke squad. What he's admitting is that the team he has inherited, built mainly by that not-fit-to-lace-Tony's-boots idiot Holloway actually has more about it than his expensively-assembled Stoke side did. Playing more, better football and getting better results. Whilst it's early days for Palace, they are making light of survival in the Premier League, whereas we were uncomfortably bumbling along after 5 seasons in there and mega-millions spunked. 3-0 away wins at struggling sides? Scoring 3 and winning at the home of a bang-on-form Top 6 team? Virtually unheard of. As TD said, it boils the piss a bit after the millions spent, and the absolute bollocks that he served up for the last 18 months.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 16, 2014 22:44:44 GMT
Why can't some of you so called supporters, just give Pulis credit for what he has done for Stoke City and Crystal Palace? I couldn't give a fuck what he's done for crystal palace. And we don't need one of his lieutenants coming on here for the first time in nearly 6 months to give us a lecture either.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 16, 2014 22:45:08 GMT
Surely he can't be saying that he has better players to use at Palace given that he inherited a sinking ship, sunk without trace and without a cat in hells chance of survival. This can't be so surely??? He built the Stoke squad. What he's admitting is that the team he has inherited, built mainly by that not-fit-to-lace-Tony's-boots idiot Holloway actually has more about it than his expensively-assembled Stoke side did. Playing more, better football and getting better results. Whilst it's early days for Palace, they are making light of survival in the Premier League, whereas we were uncomfortably bumbling along after 5 seasons in there and mega-millions spunked. 3-0 away wins at struggling sides? Scoring 3 and winning at the home of a bang-on-form Top 6 team? Virtually unheard of. As TD said, it boils the piss a bit after the millions spent, and the absolute bollocks that he served up for the last 18 months. Don't let it bother you. Palace are welcome to him. Our own club is doing absolutely fine and that is all that matters. What happens at other clubs is irrelevant.
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Post by sting on Apr 16, 2014 22:45:15 GMT
Many years ago I lived in Belgium, a country where the Flemish hate the Walloons. Every summer one Sunday afternoon each side would gather in a field and knock seven bells out of each other. Then it returned to normal. Having seen the same old stuff on here yet again, the same arguments continually recycled, I'm beginning to think that this is the only way we can sort this out. The South Car Park, sometime in June would do it! In the meantime please can we just give this all a rest, an amnesty until the whistle blows finally at The Hawthorns on the last day. In the meantime I'd like to continue to enjoy the ride, the next trip to Cardiff and as many points as possible. Isn't that all we should be getting excited about now?
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 16, 2014 22:45:39 GMT
Well done Palace; all the best to TP, Stoke's second best ever manager after Waddington. (He's gone and he's not coming back.)
But I hope Palace don't finish higher than Stoke or this site won't be worth logging onto for all the diarrhea that will be posted.
I also hope MH soon becomes Stoke's best ever manager by winning the FA Cup and finishing higher than 1 or more of the big 5/6 clubs. Stoke have the 6th best home record this season, better than Spurs and ManU; if they could achieve away results almost as good, they could achieve 5th or 6th place.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 16, 2014 22:46:02 GMT
I've read none of it. A wise choice I think!
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Post by sting on Apr 16, 2014 22:54:01 GMT
Wise indeed Bayern.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:55:23 GMT
He built the Stoke squad. What he's admitting is that the team he has inherited, built mainly by that not-fit-to-lace-Tony's-boots idiot Holloway actually has more about it than his expensively-assembled Stoke side did. Playing more, better football and getting better results. Whilst it's early days for Palace, they are making light of survival in the Premier League, whereas we were uncomfortably bumbling along after 5 seasons in there and mega-millions spunked. 3-0 away wins at struggling sides? Scoring 3 and winning at the home of a bang-on-form Top 6 team? Virtually unheard of. As TD said, it boils the piss a bit after the millions spent, and the absolute bollocks that he served up for the last 18 months. Don't let it bother you. Palace are welcome to him. Our own club is doing absolutely fine and that is all that matters. What happens at other clubs is irrelevant. Dave, you're right; it's not actually the fact that Palace are flying under TP that irritates me, but I do think it brings to the fore what we had, and to some extent, let slip, at Stoke under TP. Gaping holes in the squad, refusal see the needs of the squad (Left Back anyone), Shotton on the Left Wing idiotic square pegs, playing his favourites, massive hard-ons for shit footballers, starting XI's at odds with what any sane person would have predicted pre-game, 'Come and support us in Valencia',and millions wasted - and football so shite that I held off renewing last Season until he'd gone. He built an empire and then took the piss.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 3:03:41 GMT
"We are safe now," said Pulis. "To have 40 points with four games to go is remarkable."Do you know, I could swear I've heard/read that very same sentence somewhere before? Table since Pulis took over at Palarse (thx to the Beeb): 1. Liverpool 22 - 17 - 53 2. Man City 22 - 16 - 52 3. Chelsea - 22 - 16 - 51 4. Everton - 22 - 14 - 45 5. Tottenham - 23 - 12 - 40 6. Arsenal - 22 - 11 - 39 7. Man United - 22 - 11 - 37 8. Crystal Palace - 22 - 10 - 33 9. Stoke - 22 - 8 - 30 10. West Ham - 22 - 8 - 27 Good job Their Tone gave Hughesy a head start, eh!? Congrats to Their Tone and to the Pulisarse chairman who took the "gamble". And speaking of bets - I'll add a very personal thanks to Their Tone for my second largest win ever and largest outside a casino (by a long, long way). For that I'd like to thank Dave Interesting Kemp, Gerry Mullet Francis, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, some chick I met in my third year of uni whose fella was a nerd and had the internet on a computer in her room (shows you how small the Internet was then!), me mum and dad, god and various people/companies in the betting industry and especially those on that funny site where a couple of people just throw free money at you, for something to do ... RightPair, no that's not it ... ShoddyShower, yeah maybe ... something like that anyway ... ... Now; it's all made me a little bit teary eyed, so you'll have to excuse me while I go blow ... my nose
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Post by RAF on Apr 17, 2014 4:30:12 GMT
Any way you look at it , it's a fucking great result away to a good Everton team challenging for a Champions League spot. Fair play to them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 5:02:28 GMT
Pulis just "We have a different set of players here which allows me to play a different way to what we did at Stoke" And that pretty much confirms that it was one hundred percent the correct decision to dispense with his services last May. Finally some sense on this thread. The bloke is a fcuking hypocrite.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 17, 2014 5:06:27 GMT
I don't really care because
1) were playing the best footy since we've been in the PL 2) We've got balance in the team 3) Palace have spent more than us. If TP had the funds MH has been given I'm convinced we'd be in dire straits. 4) Our football is not based on getting lucky breaks and set pieces any more.
I'm only bothered about us getting as high as We can and I still think 1 more win should get us 10th with the fixtures Palace and West Ham have left. What ever happens now it's been a great season and the parting of the waves has been good for both SCFC and TP. I'm very happy with where we are now.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 17, 2014 6:09:48 GMT
Pulis just "We have a different set of players here which allows me to play a different way to what we did at Stoke" And that pretty much confirms that it was one hundred percent the correct decision to dispense with his services last May. Agree - naughty of him to say that. Hope our players read it and carry on with our form to a) prove him totally wrong and b) finish above them and therefore top ten
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 7:21:47 GMT
And that pretty much confirms that it was one hundred percent the correct decision to dispense with his services last May. Agree - naughty of him to say that. Hope our players read it and carry on with our form to a) prove him totally wrong and b) finish above them and therefore top ten I don't really see it as a dig at the players though. In a strange way, he's conceding that the squad he inherited, first season up, and hardly any money spent on it, is better than the one he built. He might be right, the acid test will be if he stays at Palace and is given any kind of serious money to spend. Given what we've seen to-date, he'll likely turn his nose up at £5m deadline-day captures that can't kick a ball straight. Imagine.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 17, 2014 8:01:02 GMT
I don't really care because 1) were playing the best footy since we've been in the PL 2) We've got balance in the team 3) Palace have spent more than us. If TP had the funds MH has been given I'm convinced we'd be in dire straits. 4) Our football is not based on getting lucky breaks and set pieces any more. I'm only bothered about us getting as high as We can and I still think 1 more win should get us 10th with the fixtures Palace and West Ham have left. What ever happens now it's been a great season and the parting of the waves has been good for both SCFC and TP. I'm very happy with where we are now. You didn't watch this match last night did you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 8:04:57 GMT
And that pretty much confirms that it was one hundred percent the correct decision to dispense with his services last May. Finally some sense on this thread. The bloke is a fcuking hypocrite. So he is basically saying he spent millions of pounds on players that didn't allow him to play the way he wanted to!.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Apr 17, 2014 9:03:08 GMT
And that pretty much confirms that it was one hundred percent the correct decision to dispense with his services last May. Finally some sense on this thread. The bloke is a fcuking hypocrite. Bob on ! especially as he was the bloke who bought the Stoke players he refers too.
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Post by Davef on Apr 17, 2014 9:07:04 GMT
Same as the Stoke City v Newcastle United Match Thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:39:27 GMT
Was TP making reference in relation to him having players brought in for him and not who he wanted?.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:48:54 GMT
Was not anticipating this when I made this thread hahaa, intended it as more of a match thread!
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Post by Davef on Apr 17, 2014 9:49:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 10:00:05 GMT
As you're aware I've always been of the opinion that TP walked, will always hold that opinion and maybe that's the reason he walked. Too much interference in the latter parts of his management time at Stoke.
There's also posts knocking around as to who actually brought in Brek Shea.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 17, 2014 10:21:32 GMT
You would think geoff321 should have been celebrating on the palace team bus rather than gloating on here
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