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Post by mrred on Mar 5, 2014 19:54:39 GMT
Chiles- "What happened to our defender factory from 15 years ago?" *reels off names*
Hoddle- "That back four is our Achilles heel, if we get injuries, that's where we struggle" immediately mentions setting up a unit, mentions Smalling "club level isn't great at the moment"
Dixon- "We haven't got a lot of back up, I'm surprised if Dawson isn't called up"
Wright "Yeah, good shoutout that".
Are they for real?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 19:59:53 GMT
Dawson is twice the player Smalling is. And on current form Shawcross is better than both of them. But I do rate Dawson......
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Post by metalhead on Mar 5, 2014 20:00:59 GMT
Dawson is a good centre back.
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Post by JetBlack on Mar 5, 2014 20:03:47 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that if any of our English players get the chance to play for England they will have to move away from Stoke City FC. We the fans can cry 'fuck em' all we want to, but at the end of the day, if it were you being passed by because of the Club you play for what would you do? I think it's inevitable that Shawcross will have to leave Stoke City to get another sniff at the England squad. Unless Shawcross starts to gain praise from our 'friends' on MotD he will get nowhere. They totally ignored his diagonal pass to Arnie on saturday, they showed Arnie receiving the ball and the shot afterwards, the only other pass they showed the commentator described it as a long ball, we all know if it had been any of the media dahlings favourite players it would have been a measured pass and the commentator and pundits alike would have been queuing up to lavish praise. Shawcross will have to put several games like saturdays performance together and consistently to PERHAPS get a mention.
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Post by sportsman on Mar 5, 2014 20:05:04 GMT
Woy also said that a player wouldn't be judged in a friendly on 15 minutes, 20 minutes 45 minutes or 90 minutes.
Is that right woy?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 5, 2014 20:08:50 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that if any of our English players get the chance to play for England they will have to move away from Stoke City FC. We the fans can cry 'fuck em' all we want to, but at the end of the day, if it were you being passed by because of the Club you play for what would you do? I think it's inevitable that Shawcross will have to leave Stoke City to get another sniff at the England squad. Unless Shawcross starts to gain praise from our ' friends' on MotD he will get nowhere. They totally ignored his diagonal pass to Arnie on saturday, they showed Arnie receiving the ball and the shot afterwards, the only other pass they showed the commentator described it as a long ball, we all know if it had been any of the media dahlings favourite players it would have been a measured pass and the commentator and pundits alike would have been queuing up to lavish praise. Shawcross will have to put several games like saturdays performance together and consistently to PERHAPS get a mention. can't argue with that. I couldn't give too much of a fuck about england I struggle to remember when I last felt pride in them as team (it actually might have been Beckham's 1 man performance against Greece) however I do give a fuck about a talented player whose name and reputation has been dragged through the mud by one whinging manager and some bizarre media agenda which seems to be preventing him from getting the international career he deserves. As for owl face if he thinks Ryan's performance against Sweden is bad just wait until Smalling gets mullered by Suarez. I too think Dawson is a good centre back and I'm shocked he hasn't received a call up. |
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 5, 2014 20:13:48 GMT
England's four centre backs should be Jagielka, Shawcross, Dawson and possibly Curtis Davies. Still not a world class player between them but better than the shit that keeps getting picked.
The partnership tonight makes me want to self harm
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Post by kettle2013 on Mar 5, 2014 20:15:06 GMT
England's four centre backs should be Jagielka, Shawcross, Dawson and possibly Curtis Davies. Still not a world class player between them but better than the shit that keeps getting picked. The partnership tonight makes me want to self harm You were doing ok until you mentioned Curtis Davies. |
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Post by mrpickles on Mar 5, 2014 20:17:17 GMT
England's four centre backs should be Jagielka, Shawcross, Dawson and possibly Curtis Davies. Still not a world class player between them but better than the shit that keeps getting picked. The partnership tonight makes me want to self harm You were doing ok until you mentioned Curtis Davies. Why not? He's having a fantastic season for Hull. Ahh shit......Hull I see my mistake now  |
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Post by mrred on Mar 5, 2014 20:17:32 GMT
My grievance this these fucking idiots isn't that Dawson is overlooked (I also quite rate him), but the fact that there's a perfectly good English centre back sat at home that's been the captain of a team for 5 going on 6 years, of a team that's consistently had a very good defensive record, in one of the most competitive leagues in the world.
Roy Hogson can sit on a fat one as far as I'm concerned, he barely knows what fucking planet he's on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 20:19:20 GMT
England's four centre backs should be Jagielka, Shawcross, Dawson and possibly Curtis Davies. Still not a world class player between them but better than the shit that keeps getting picked. The partnership tonight makes me want to self harm You were doing ok until you mentioned Curtis Davies. Curtis Davies has been superb this season............ |
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Post by Sven on Mar 5, 2014 20:19:47 GMT
Shawcross' name is only mentioned by media and pundits if the sentence refering to ryan has the following words in it
Intent
Malicious
Broken
Bones
Thug
Wales
Other than that Ryan does not exist
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Post by MadMarko10 on Mar 5, 2014 20:22:36 GMT
England's four centre backs should be Jagielka, Shawcross, Dawson and possibly Curtis Davies. Still not a world class player between them but better than the shit that keeps getting picked. The partnership tonight makes me want to self harm You were doing ok until you mentioned Curtis Davies. He's been superb for Hull this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 20:24:13 GMT
Eric Dier, he's the fella. England CB at World Cup 2018. Put at least 25p on that!  |
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Post by polofrance on Mar 5, 2014 20:27:40 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that if any of our English players get the chance to play for England they will have to move away from Stoke City FC. We the fans can cry 'fuck em' all we want to, but at the end of the day, if it were you being passed by because of the Club you play for what would you do? I think it's inevitable that Shawcross will have to leave Stoke City to get another sniff at the England squad. Unless Shawcross starts to gain praise from our ' friends' on MotD he will get nowhere. They totally ignored his diagonal pass to Arnie on saturday, they showed Arnie receiving the ball and the shot afterwards, the only other pass they showed the commentator described it as a long ball, we all know if it had been any of the media dahlings favourite players it would have been a measured pass and the commentator and pundits alike would have been queuing up to lavish praise. Shawcross will have to put several games like saturdays performance together and consistently to PERHAPS get a mention. It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 20:34:08 GMT
Shawcross' name is only mentioned by media and pundits if the sentence refering to ryan has the following words in it Intent Malicious Broken Bones Thug WalesOther than that Ryan does not exist Said it many a time he should go and play for Wales. He'll get 50 caps and become a better player for it. They're a couple of strikers away from having a half decent team |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 5, 2014 20:37:52 GMT
Eric Dier, he's the fella. England CB at World Cup 2018. Put at least 25p on that! Footy Manager??? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 20:41:54 GMT
Dawson is a liability IMO. Slower than rust.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 5, 2014 20:42:05 GMT
Eric Dier, he's the fella. England CB at World Cup 2018. Put at least 25p on that! He the young lad in Portugal? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 20:49:13 GMT
Yeah Eric Dier plays for Sporting Clube de Portugal and it's not football manager Dan', i've never actually played that but... This is boring, i'll make it brief... Fifa 14 Hartlepool career mode (i play the games and manage like) Gets to 2018 and i get an International Job management offer from England, quite rightly too having taken Hartlepool not only up to The Premier League but won the damn thing. So i take it because the World Cup is that summer. First thing i do is check the England starting XI and would you adam and eve it...starting XI (this is how it was in the game based on ratings in the future, NOT what i'd picked) CB - Dier CB - Shawcross Both rated 84 or more or summat like that, i forget now as it's now 2019/2020 season  |
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Post by unknown182 on Mar 5, 2014 20:57:01 GMT
If you watch soccer saturday from the weekend they talk about stoke and jeff stelling asks phil thomson if shawcross should be in the england setup. On the right of the screen you can see charlie nicholas look away and roll his eyes. He's been stereotyped by the media now and he'll never shake it off.
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Post by mrred on Mar 5, 2014 21:03:13 GMT
If you watch soccer saturday from the weekend they talk about stoke and jeff stelling asks phil thomson if shawcross should be in the england setup. On the right of the screen you can see charlie nicholas look away and roll his eyes. He's been stereotyped by the media now and he'll never shake it off. I wouldn't take anything a grown man with an ear ring and haircut 20 years to young for him says, seriously. |
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Post by burge2u on Mar 5, 2014 22:00:28 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that if any of our English players get the chance to play for England they will have to move away from Stoke City FC. We the fans can cry 'fuck em' all we want to, but at the end of the day, if it were you being passed by because of the Club you play for what would you do? I think it's inevitable that Shawcross will have to leave Stoke City to get another sniff at the England squad. Unless Shawcross starts to gain praise from our ' friends' on MotD he will get nowhere. They totally ignored his diagonal pass to Arnie on saturday, they showed Arnie receiving the ball and the shot afterwards, the only other pass they showed the commentator described it as a long ball, we all know if it had been any of the media dahlings favourite players it would have been a measured pass and the commentator and pundits alike would have been queuing up to lavish praise. Shawcross will have to put several games like saturdays performance together and consistently to PERHAPS get a mention. It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! I thought that Stuart Pearce visited The Brit during his short tenure as England manager. Hodgson seems to have no intention of watching a match at Stoke. Even Maradonna visited The Brit as Argentina manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 22:04:30 GMT
Shawcross and England. England are rubbish! How anyone thinks that they have got a cat in hell,s chance of winning the World Cup is seriously deluded. Don,t get me wrong, I,d love them to do well, but they are no where near good enough.
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Post by polofrance on Mar 6, 2014 5:58:13 GMT
It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! I thought that Stuart Pearce visited The Brit during his short tenure as England manager. Hodgson seems to have no intention of watching a match at Stoke. Even Maradonna visited The Brit as Argentina manager. |
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Post by shawi on Mar 6, 2014 6:55:43 GMT
I can understand Ryan would be proud to have the chance to represent England in Brazil, but let's face it....England are cack & our media will over-hype the event, inflate their ego & all will return early on having achieved SFA.
At least Ryan can go on holiday & not risk getting injured.............unless he falls over his dog, a la Lawrence.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 6, 2014 7:31:03 GMT
I can understand Ryan would be proud to have the chance to represent England in Brazil, but let's face it....England are cack & our media will over-hype the event, inflate their ego & all will return early on having achieved SFA. At least Ryan can go on holiday & not risk getting injured.............unless he falls over his dog, a la Lawrence. Yep and when they do pack their bags after two weeks of humiliation it would all be Ryan's fault if he was there. Stay well away Ryan we need you to lead us forward next season. England really are shite. |
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Post by jeycov on Mar 6, 2014 7:57:32 GMT
It's blindingly obvious that if any of our English players get the chance to play for England they will have to move away from Stoke City FC. We the fans can cry 'fuck em' all we want to, but at the end of the day, if it were you being passed by because of the Club you play for what would you do? I think it's inevitable that Shawcross will have to leave Stoke City to get another sniff at the England squad. Unless Shawcross starts to gain praise from our ' friends' on MotD he will get nowhere. They totally ignored his diagonal pass to Arnie on saturday, they showed Arnie receiving the ball and the shot afterwards, the only other pass they showed the commentator described it as a long ball, we all know if it had been any of the media dahlings favourite players it would have been a measured pass and the commentator and pundits alike would have been queuing up to lavish praise. Shawcross will have to put several games like saturdays performance together and consistently to PERHAPS get a mention. It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! Well Roy will have to learn how to use his Sat Nav to come and watch Butland next season (assuming Bego moves on ). Surely he can't ignore Jack? |
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Post by stokeramblers on Mar 6, 2014 8:04:07 GMT
It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! Well Roy will have to learn how to use his Sat Nav to come and watch Butland next season (assuming Bego moves on ). Surely he can't ignore Jack? He'd rather pick part time Englishman Foster  |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 6, 2014 8:08:02 GMT
It would help if the England manager knew where the Brit is, not one England manager has been to Stoke since promotion!! Well Roy will have to learn how to use his Sat Nav to come and watch Butland next season (assuming Bego moves on ). Surely he can't ignore Jack? Does he play for Liverpool? No.... I'm sure they've got some strapping young keeper who will get a call up then. |
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