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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 16:10:27 GMT
In terms of waste of money, Kyle Lightbourne would have to be up there as well. At the time we signed him, we pretty much didn't have a pot to piss in and blowing 500k on him, at the time, was like spending 3m on a player now. He did go on to do OK as a partner for Thorne a few years later but even so, 500k for Killer Kyle was money well and truly pissed down the toilet. We sold Griffin, and blew the entire funds available from that on Lightbourne, while replacing Griffin with Nyamah and then Bryan Small. That's the equivalent of selling Bego for £20 million this summer, signing no replacement keeper, spending £10 million on someone like Grant Holt, and then inevitably getting relegated. Spectacularly bad sequence that.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2014 16:18:54 GMT
What about George Siebech? He played left back a couple of times in that same season as well.
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Post by onionman on Feb 23, 2014 17:21:12 GMT
Oh yes, Siebech. I think Robert Heath played a couple of games at left-back too.
We could have spent that 500k on a solid left-back like Lee Sandford and a decent striker like Jamie Cureton. Instead we blew the whole lot on Kyle Lightbourne.
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Post by march4 on Feb 23, 2014 17:43:42 GMT
However you wrap up the Shilton signing, I think we can all agree that we paid a record fee for a keeper and that signing cost us the title. I'm sure Denis talked about Shilts insisting that Waddo pushed our defenders up to the half-way line and he felt this cost us goals. However, I have been wrong before and I will be wrong plenty of times in future and it will be interesting to see if anyone else shares my recollection.
If signing Shilts did cost us the title then considering the cost it must rank up there with our worst signings.
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Post by Stokieson on Feb 23, 2014 18:36:08 GMT
Granted, at times Palacios has looked like an imposter pretending to be a premiership footballer, but he's also had one or two games where he's been really capable and done a good job for the team.
Lightbourne was a much worse signing. Given the context, it's probably the equivalent of us spending £20 million on some complete no-mark today, getting relegated and releasing them a couple of years later.
Those saying Brek Shea, get a grip, he's neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 23, 2014 18:59:07 GMT
Well seeing as he lives in a massive house in Warmingham and his family are all settled in the area oh and he's earning silly money I don't suppose he's in a rush to go anywhere.
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 23, 2014 19:17:39 GMT
As we aren't in the running for the likes of Messi and Ronaldo you can only really judge a Stoke signing in retrospect.
Be honest, how many expected Palacios, when he signed, to turn out like he has?
How many thought we didn't need yet another CB when we signed Abdoulye Faye or Huth?
Or that we didn't really need Bego when we signed him?
How many were singing "Super Jonny Walters" during his first season and are now slagging him off?
Etc, etc,....
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Post by greenbaize on Feb 24, 2014 1:58:05 GMT
However you wrap up the Shilton signing, I think we can all agree that we paid a record fee for a keeper and that signing cost us the title. I'm sure Denis talked about Shilts insisting that Waddo pushed our defenders up to the half-way line and he felt this cost us goals. However, I have been wrong before and I will be wrong plenty of times in future and it will be interesting to see if anyone else shares my recollection. If signing Shilts did cost us the title then considering the cost it must rank up there with our worst signings. from my memory 4 broken legs that season to talisman players cost us the title. If we had won the last 4 matches the title was ours, we hammered chelski 3 nil but lost 2 nil at sheff utd when there were thousands of us there Tony Currie played a blinder against us (twat), after that our season fizzled out 2 draws against Newcastle and Burnley. You could argue that if we had brought another striker with the money instead of shilts we may of won it (farmer was a good reliable keeper, but Osgood choose Southampton when we tried for him so who else was available at the time? You need the luck on your side to win out and as usual we got jack shit of it, and to think that French twat still cry's about 1 accidental broken leg, wanker. As I also remember shilts saves probably saved us from relegation early than it happened, so over all he wasn't that bad a player for us even if he did think we weren't good enough for him.
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Post by s8to on Feb 24, 2014 8:23:01 GMT
Paul Williams.. Geoff Whitley?? There are far worse signings than a world cup player!!!
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Post by s8to on Feb 24, 2014 8:23:21 GMT
Paul Williams.. Geoff Whitley?? There are far worse signings than a world cup player!!!
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 24, 2014 8:33:02 GMT
Cannot be far off. Absolutely cunting useless. Dave Kitson joint with him. I'd have Kitson in the forefront. Fucking woeful. Maurice Edu was a head scratcher too. Don't get me started on Eidur Gudjohnsen and Hannes Sigurdsson.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 24, 2014 8:34:31 GMT
Kitson clive clarke alex elder but because of the fee palacios takes it Clive Clarke!? Thought he was ok myself.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 24, 2014 9:29:37 GMT
However you wrap up the Shilton signing, I think we can all agree that we paid a record fee for a keeper and that signing cost us the title. I'm sure Denis talked about Shilts insisting that Waddo pushed our defenders up to the half-way line and he felt this cost us goals. However, I have been wrong before and I will be wrong plenty of times in future and it will be interesting to see if anyone else shares my recollection. If signing Shilts did cost us the title then considering the cost it must rank up there with our worst signings. from my memory 4 broken legs that season to talisman players cost us the title. If we had won the last 4 matches the title was ours, we hammered chelski 3 nil but lost 2 nil at sheff utd when there were thousands of us there Tony Currie played a blinder against us (twat), after that our season fizzled out 2 draws against Newcastle and Burnley. You could argue that if we had brought another striker with the money instead of shilts we may of won it (farmer was a good reliable keeper, but Osgood choose Southampton when we tried for him so who else was available at the time? You need the luck on your side to win out and as usual we got jack shit of it, and to think that French twat still cry's about 1 accidental broken leg, wanker. As I also remember shilts saves probably saved us from relegation early than it happened, so over all he wasn't that bad a player for us even if he did think we weren't good enough for him. Didn't Kevin Beattie cost us the title ? And Lightbourne was shitter than Palacious.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 24, 2014 18:56:24 GMT
Martin Carruthers, Keith Scott, Dave Kitson,Micky Owen, Maurice Edu, Brek Shea, Eidur Duck all either shit or unfathomable, but because of the sheer waste of money WP takes the title.
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2014 18:59:37 GMT
In terms of waste of money, Kyle Lightbourne would have to be up there as well. At the time we signed him, we pretty much didn't have a pot to piss in and blowing 500k on him, at the time, was like spending 3m on a player now. He did go on to do OK as a partner for Thorne a few years later but even so, 500k for Killer Kyle was money well and truly pissed down the toilet. We sold Griffin, and blew the entire funds available from that on Lightbourne, while replacing Griffin with Nyamah and then Bryan Small. That's the equivalent of selling Bego for £20 million this summer, signing no replacement keeper, spending £10 million on someone like Grant Holt, and then inevitably getting relegated. All thanks to Jez Moxey going to Wolves is the greatest thing ever
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 24, 2014 19:05:15 GMT
The consequences of the Crouch/Palacios deal makes it one of the worst in our history. If you're going on ability then it's nowhere near the worst. Man alive we've signed some utter dog shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 19:06:38 GMT
Paul Williams.. Geoff Whitley?? There are far worse signings than a world cup player!!! Neither of them cost six million quid though did they?
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Post by march4 on Feb 24, 2014 19:16:35 GMT
However you wrap up the Shilton signing, I think we can all agree that we paid a record fee for a keeper and that signing cost us the title. I'm sure Denis talked about Shilts insisting that Waddo pushed our defenders up to the half-way line and he felt this cost us goals. However, I have been wrong before and I will be wrong plenty of times in future and it will be interesting to see if anyone else shares my recollection. If signing Shilts did cost us the title then considering the cost it must rank up there with our worst signings. from my memory 4 broken legs that season to talisman players cost us the title. If we had won the last 4 matches the title was ours, we hammered chelski 3 nil but lost 2 nil at sheff utd when there were thousands of us there Tony Currie played a blinder against us (twat), after that our season fizzled out 2 draws against Newcastle and Burnley. You could argue that if we had brought another striker with the money instead of shilts we may of won it (farmer was a good reliable keeper, but Osgood choose Southampton when we tried for him so who else was available at the time? You need the luck on your side to win out and as usual we got jack shit of it, and to think that French twat still cry's about 1 accidental broken leg, wanker. As I also remember shilts saves probably saved us from relegation early than it happened, so over all he wasn't that bad a player for us even if he did think we weren't good enough for him. That is a good post and an excellent reminder about the broken legs. The fuss these days about one broken leg is incredible considering the run of such injuries that hampered us.
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