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Post by fca47 on Nov 26, 2013 9:21:35 GMT
I don 't feel part of either. We are the kingdom of Stoke.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 9:31:08 GMT
Hang about a bit!! I don't consider Stoke vs West Brom a "derby" match? or Stoke Villa a "derby" match? I would say that Stoke v Wolves would be a "derby" match as this implies, as it is, ...local, based on the old Staffordshire connection. In someways Villa vs West Brom IS the only derby match in the Midlands now as they are very local to each other. I think he may be aware, and also agreeing with some of of the posters on here, that Stoke may be in the Midlands but that we have no connection at all with Birmingham or the Black County. The only Midlands "derby" .... yeah...maybe he is right. We are in the Midlands, but these matches would not be a derby match for us? EDIT -- Just so everyone is clear though... this does not detract from Alan Parry being a cock (and if you were from the Black Country that would be considered a compliment not an insult!....hence my point ) When is a derby not a derby? Well in my eyes its when there are other clubs more local that you would consider first...Wolves, Vale... If he has said that there are ONLY two teams in the midlands, then that would reinforce the fact he is actually a cock. However, I thank him for disassociating my lovely club with those horrible yam yam, whining toss pots. The only thing I like about West Brom is that it is one of the few places on earth that makes Stoke look positively picturesque..
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Post by Robo10 on Nov 26, 2013 9:36:03 GMT
We should declare independence, the government gives us fuck all anyway
The Principality of Stoke on Trent
(Can we have Emily Blunt as our Princess?)
Viva la revolution!
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Post by tijuanabrass on Nov 26, 2013 9:56:48 GMT
"We are the Potters, the midlands we rule, dada dada
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 10:06:00 GMT
Alan Parry was a bit odd tonight.
Apart from the obvious Stoke blunder he stated that 'Villa have drawn level again' - how do you manage that from 2-0 down?
He then mentioned that a sub had, including injury time, fifteen minutes to make a difference. The sub came on in the 72nd minute.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 26, 2013 10:46:20 GMT
Alan Parry was a bit odd tonight. Apart from the obvious Stoke blunder he stated that 'Villa have drawn level again' - how do you manage that from 2-0 down? He then mentioned that a sub had, including injury time, fifteen minutes to make a difference. The sub came on in the 72nd minute. Yes, noticed all those things plus the obvious 'midlands clubs' reference etc. The poor old guy really is losing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 11:10:04 GMT
he's losing it?????
this thread has gone on for 3 pages and is a complete non-story yet we say he's losing it????
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Post by Robo10 on Nov 26, 2013 11:17:13 GMT
Slow news day :-)
Saves people being outraged that Brian the dog was killed off in Family Guy!
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 26, 2013 11:29:50 GMT
When you are playing a team from 45 miles away it is NOT A DERBY.
Manchester is considerably closer to us........
Are Stoke V Manchester City/United Derby's????
The Midlands don't want us (and I don't want them) and we're certainly not in the same region as Manchester (although it's closer than Brum).
Independence for Stoke on Trent I say.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 26, 2013 11:52:33 GMT
When you are playing a team from 45 miles away it is NOT A DERBY. Manchester is considerably closer to us........ Are Stoke V Manchester City/United Derby's???? The Midlands don't want us (and I don't want them) and we're certainly not in the same region as Manchester (although it's closer than Brum). Independence for Stoke on Trent I say. I agree with you other than Britannia to Old Trafford is 46 miles! The Midlands were keen to own us when we got to Wembley, our local derby would be against the team from Hamil Road. I do object to the comment that there are only 2 Midlands teams in the Premiership however, if this was said
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 11:55:39 GMT
When you are playing a team from 45 miles away it is NOT A DERBY. Manchester is considerably closer to us........ Are Stoke V Manchester City/United Derby's???? The Midlands don't want us (and I don't want them) and we're certainly not in the same region as Manchester (although it's closer than Brum). Independence for Stoke on Trent I say. I agree with you other than Britannia to Old Trafford is 46 miles! The Midlands were keen to own us when we got to Wembley, our local derby would be against the team from Hamil Road. I do object to the comment that there are only 2 Midlands teams in the Premiership however, if this was said out of interest...why do you object? what real difference does one off the cuff remark actually make to anyone in any way, shape or form? are we seriously struggling this much for things to talk about all of a sudden?
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Post by jeycov on Nov 26, 2013 12:01:07 GMT
I agree with you other than Britannia to Old Trafford is 46 miles! The Midlands were keen to own us when we got to Wembley, our local derby would be against the team from Hamil Road. I do object to the comment that there are only 2 Midlands teams in the Premiership however, if this was said out of interest...why do you object? what real difference does one off the cuff remark actually make to anyone in any way, shape or form? are we seriously struggling this much for things to talk about all of a sudden? OK Truce I will always consider myself as a Midlander and that there are not just 2 Premiership teams in the Midlands (probably annoyed me most of all) i We are both Stoke fans and want the best for our team, playing our home games at the Brit wherever that is on the map
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 26, 2013 12:04:58 GMT
I don't think it does matter really Mick but it's just another indication that Stoke City and Stoke on Trent in general don't enter into people's thinking at times. There's no doubt that we ARE a bit precious about these things. There's always the danger of getting ourselves a reputation for painting ourselves as 'victims' and a forgotten city but, TBF there is some justification for those that take that view.
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Post by DannyStokie on Nov 26, 2013 12:07:26 GMT
We are in the midlands, the comment was almost ignorant, as if Sky had said, "let's try and piss off Stoke tonight"
Us vs Villa or WBA is not a derby but we are still in the Midlands.
I consider us v Wolves a derby but that's more to do with them being Staffordshire of old I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 12:11:13 GMT
I don't think it does matter really Mick but it's just another indication that Stoke City and Stoke on Trent in general don't enter into people's thinking at times. There's no doubt that we ARE a bit precious about these things. There's always the danger of getting ourselves a reputation for painting ourselves as 'victims' and a forgotten city but, TBF there is some justification for those that take that view. but at the same time you're talking about a commentator making a comment at one particular moment in time......there are probably very few people out there who aren't in the Staffs area that DO think Stoke is part of the Midlands (and a lot of this thread is Stokies themselves saying they don't think of themselves as Midlanders...if he had includued us then half the people who have posted would be pissed off that he said Stokies WERE Midlanders!), what's Parry supposed to do exactly, google a map of the Midlands before every game in case someone gets deeply offended by a remark he makes??? like i said, complete non-story if you ask me...it's bloody football commentary not QI
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Post by Old School Stokie on Nov 26, 2013 12:14:07 GMT
I thought we were in a bubble - get south of Junction 10 of M6 and they are all brummies with a brummy accent.
We don't talk like Scousers or Mancunians duck
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 12:19:52 GMT
I don't really care what he said about Midlands clubs and that. Alan Parry, for other reasons such as being an embarassingly appauling commentator needs the boots stuck into him. I just find it cringeworthy when a 60+ year old man, or indeed any grown man for that matter comes out with some of the lines he does in that overly excited, i've had a cider apple on the back of the school bus way that he does. Unfortunately at this moment in time i cannot think of one off the top of my head, that's slightly embarassing for me i know. However without fail he does it numerous times when he's commentating. I'll have to jot them all down, nah sod that i won't. A bit like when Martin Tyler goes "AND IT'S LIIIIIIIVE!" in that overly Americanised trying to flog a product that everyone has already bought kind of way. YEAH, IT'S FUCKIN' LIIIIIVE BABY! The league of late goals. No other league in the world has late goals. Now i'm slagging off Tyler, and i actually like him for the most part. I'm so mean at times but yeah, that makes me cringe an' all. IT'S THE BIG ONE, IT'S CARDIFF VERSUS NORWICH AND IT'S LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE! HELL YEAH GOD DAMN! FANBOYS!
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 26, 2013 12:22:57 GMT
I don't think it does matter really Mick but it's just another indication that Stoke City and Stoke on Trent in general don't enter into people's thinking at times. There's no doubt that we ARE a bit precious about these things. There's always the danger of getting ourselves a reputation for painting ourselves as 'victims' and a forgotten city but, TBF there is some justification for those that take that view. but at the same time you're talking about a commentator making a comment at one particular moment in time......there are probably very few people out there who aren't in the Staffs area that DO think Stoke is part of the Midlands (and a lot of this thread is Stokies themselves saying they don't think of themselves as Midlanders...if he had includued us then half the people who have posted would be pissed off that he said Stokies WERE Midlanders!), what's Parry supposed to do exactly, google a map of the Midlands before every game in case someone gets deeply offended by a remark he makes??? like i said, complete non-story if you ask me...it's bloody football commentary not QI Yeh that's all fair comment mate. Many in Stoke are a bit sensitive (probably includes me) to the fact that we lack a real identity as a city in general and don't really feel an affinity with our near neighbors. We can't even agree between ourselves about what direction the city should be taking in terms of it's own growth/progress. None of that is Parry's fault of course and, you're right, it's just football but our city is going through a confusing period in it's history and some (guilty!) leap on any and every occasion that Stoke is 'ignored'.
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Post by ST5-POTTER on Nov 26, 2013 13:01:00 GMT
Republic of Stoke On Trent!!
Oatcaketonia
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Post by thevoid on Nov 26, 2013 13:02:33 GMT
IMHO we fall into that part of the Midlands featured in Shane Meadows films- not quite Northern, definitely not West Mids.
Like I said, dialect-wise, we've more in common with them than all that 'am yer' bollocks.
Watched Saturday Night and Sunday Morning last night, set in Nottingham, and they say 'duck' a hell of a lot. It's not unique to 'Stowk'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 13:09:44 GMT
We should declare independence, the government gives us fuck all anyway The Principality of Stoke on Trent (Can we have Emily Blunt as our Princess?) Viva la revolution! I agree! Emily Blunt is lovely
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Nov 26, 2013 13:42:31 GMT
Why should some dick from SKY know our location, the government forgot where we are decades ago?
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Post by greyman on Nov 26, 2013 13:50:16 GMT
I've said many times - The North starts at Scholar Green, the Midlands at Darlaston. Everything in between is The People's Republic of Stoke on Trent. Except for Newcastle which is like Andorra.
Forget Scotland, Stoke needs its independence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 13:57:27 GMT
IMHO we fall into that part of the Midlands featured in Shane Meadows films- not quite Northern, definitely not West Mids. Like I said, dialect-wise, we've more in common with them than all that 'am yer' bollocks. Watched Saturday Night and Sunday Morning last night, set in Nottingham, and they say 'duck' a hell of a lot. It's not unique to 'Stowk'. Shane Meadows films are Deby and Nottingham = East Midlands
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Post by greyman on Nov 26, 2013 14:05:07 GMT
IMHO we fall into that part of the Midlands featured in Shane Meadows films- not quite Northern, definitely not West Mids. Like I said, dialect-wise, we've more in common with them than all that 'am yer' bollocks. Watched Saturday Night and Sunday Morning last night, set in Nottingham, and they say 'duck' a hell of a lot. It's not unique to 'Stowk'. Shane Meadows films are Deby and Nottingham = East Midlands Uttoxeter and Derbyshire is where Shane Meadow's films are based. Where he grew up
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Post by thevoid on Nov 26, 2013 14:05:30 GMT
IMHO we fall into that part of the Midlands featured in Shane Meadows films- not quite Northern, definitely not West Mids. Like I said, dialect-wise, we've more in common with them than all that 'am yer' bollocks. Watched Saturday Night and Sunday Morning last night, set in Nottingham, and they say 'duck' a hell of a lot. It's not unique to 'Stowk'. Shane Meadows films are Deby and Nottingham = East Midlands Again, I never said they weren't. And parts of East Staffordshire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 14:11:00 GMT
Shane Meadows films are Deby and Nottingham = East Midlands Uttoxeter and Derbyshire is where Shane Meadow's films are based. Where he grew up and Nottingham....both Small Time and Once upon a time in the Midlands are based in Nottingham (where he moved to when he was 20..he's a County fan) Dead Man's shoes is based in Matlock and none of the rest (apart from somers Town obviously) specify where they are set at all although he has said that some are based on events that took place when he was young( when he lived in Uttoxeter) anyway, we digress..........
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Post by lordb on Nov 26, 2013 14:33:34 GMT
When you are playing a team from 45 miles away it is NOT A DERBY. Manchester is considerably closer to us........ Are Stoke V Manchester City/United Derby's???? The Midlands don't want us (and I don't want them) and we're certainly not in the same region as Manchester (although it's closer than Brum). Independence for Stoke on Trent I say. Ipswich v Norwich not a derby then? a derby is a rivalry dictated by geography & other factors is it not? e.g. Bury v Bolton is v.close but not a derby Swindon v Oxfrd is a derby e.t.c. we only have one derby sadly & it's one I have no time for.
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Post by Silkystoke on Nov 26, 2013 14:34:27 GMT
Stoke v Vale is our only Derby... thankfully this wont happen for a while.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2013 14:42:12 GMT
We definitely aren't East Midlands even though our dialect is quite close to theirs but ours isn't as whiny or horrible. And the actual accent is close to Scouse too, which always winds me up when I get called a Scouser usually by some posh cunt.
The East Midlands accent though can affect people as far west as Hilderstone though.
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