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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 2, 2013 20:54:11 GMT
Agree TP had run out of time but I simply cant warm to Hughes
He has not had money but he shows no passion and lack of money does not excuse the lack of fitness and organisation because at least we had both before
I would have hoped he would at least be showing some signs of getting to grips with the job now and have the team organised but we are all over the place some good attacking play the last couple of games but shambolic defending and today again we were so far off the pace for most of the game
Sunderland has to be a must win game although I think we will have chance next week too but I get a feeling about a good manager and this bloke does not give me that and reminds me of Mick Mills cocky bastard with no passion for the club
Harsh to judge so soon but his impression on me is totally underwhelming
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2013 20:55:52 GMT
Not impressed, underwhelmed. I still think we're a striker and a defensive midfielder away from a good mid-table side. It's better than what I thought we'd be in the summer.
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Post by longtimestokie on Nov 2, 2013 21:02:59 GMT
no passion ,, no loyalty ,, its just a job to him, he wont bother if it right or wrong,, if things get any worse i put money on it HE WILL WALK without any conscience ,, wont think twice about it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 21:10:56 GMT
Not good enough so far. Bad decisions during games, no real conviction in anything he says or does, bad results, we look worse in defence, we get dominated at home now. It all looks bad so far but then again he hasn't had money to spend so it's not completely his fault. There is definitely a lack of passion and enthusiasm amongst the players, though this useless bunch were showing that under Pulis and we should have got rid of most of them last summer.
We continue to look like relegation team and the only way out is a lot of money being spent in January. I can't see us winning a game until we sign some players
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Post by werrington on Nov 2, 2013 21:14:57 GMT
Jesus fucking wept
He's been left a total paceless mindnumbing shambles of a squad given the 10 years the previous incumbent had and the £100m spent on it yet he's getting slaughtered after 10 games ( of which we are a point better off than this stage last season )
FFS see it for what it is
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Post by mattface on Nov 2, 2013 21:15:26 GMT
Yes - next redundant question
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 2, 2013 21:17:35 GMT
Jesus fucking wept He's been left a total paceless mindnumbing shambles of a squad given the 10 years the previous incumbent had and the £100m spent on it yet he's getting slaughtered after 10 games ( of which we are a point better off than this stage last season ) FFS see it for what it is Wezza we all know it was time for a change but have you seriously been impressed by the last 3 home games?And don't bring up it was the same under Pulis because i'm interested in the HERE AND NOW mate. |
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Post by sheronsears on Nov 2, 2013 21:19:49 GMT
Last three home matches TP (Legend) at least 6 points nrwhich 3 points west brom 3 points today draw or lose agree or disagree
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2013 21:21:21 GMT
Jesus fucking wept He's been left a total paceless mindnumbing shambles of a squad given the 10 years the previous incumbent had and the £100m spent on it yet he's getting slaughtered after 10 games ( of which we are a point better off than this stage last season ) FFS see it for what it is Wezza we all know it was time for a change but have you seriously been impressed by the last 3 home games?And don't bring up it was the same under Pulis because i'm interested in the HERE AND NOW mate. I really don't think it matters. People are expecting Rome to be built in a day. He's done two things wrong for me in his time here, they are the Wilson-Arnie sub last week and the continuing deployment of HMS Walters. Other than that I think it's clearly the work of a team in transition who are trying hard to change. There are weaknesses and to me he clearly knows that and is getting pissed off with it. It's way too early to judge. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 2, 2013 21:22:39 GMT
I'm not saying he should have sorted things , may be that my dislike for him as a player is clouding my judgement but the team should be fit , organised and put the effort in and that is not happening.
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Post by werrington on Nov 2, 2013 21:22:48 GMT
Wezza we all know it was time for a change but have you seriously been impressed by the last 3 home games?And don't bring up it was the same under Pulis because i'm interested in the HERE AND NOW mate. I really don't think it matters. People are expecting Rome to be built in a day. He's done two things wrong for me in his time here, they are the Wilson-Arnie sub last week and the continuing deployment of HMS Walters. Other than that I think it's clearly the work of a team in transition who are trying hard to change. There are weaknesses and to me he clearly knows that and is getting pissed off with it. It's way too early to judge. Bang on Bayern |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 2, 2013 21:23:04 GMT
No I'm not impressed.
Haven't been impressed from day one.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 2, 2013 21:23:14 GMT
Wezza we all know it was time for a change but have you seriously been impressed by the last 3 home games?And don't bring up it was the same under Pulis because i'm interested in the HERE AND NOW mate. I really don't think it matters. People are expecting Rome to be built in a day. He's done two things wrong for me in his time here, they are the Wilson-Arnie sub last week and the continuing deployment of HMS Walters. Other than that I think it's clearly the work of a team in transition who are trying hard to change. There are weaknesses and to me he clearly knows that and is getting pissed off with it. It's way too early to judge. I agree its way to early to judge but at times we look like 11 strangers thrown together its that disjointed. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2013 21:24:00 GMT
I just can't believe how different his teams are to the way he played the game. We're a soft touch and weak. I blame the players as much as Hughes though but I have absolutely no idea what it is him Bowen and Nidzu, Nidgsw, Eddie are trying to create.
What is it are we trying to be?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2013 21:27:13 GMT
I really don't think it matters. People are expecting Rome to be built in a day. He's done two things wrong for me in his time here, they are the Wilson-Arnie sub last week and the continuing deployment of HMS Walters. Other than that I think it's clearly the work of a team in transition who are trying hard to change. There are weaknesses and to me he clearly knows that and is getting pissed off with it. It's way too early to judge. I agree its way to early to judge but at times we look like 11 strangers thrown together its that disjointed. It is and I think he knows that hence the merry go round we're seeing in the midfield. He knows it's a problem and he's trying to fix it but the tools at hand are just plain shit. Now if he doesn't sign a bloke who we know can be that anchor in the middle come January then I'll be the first in line to string him and Carto up from the nearest crossbar!  |
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Post by farmer on Nov 2, 2013 21:27:36 GMT
MH said he was happy with the squad,he was given money but failed to land certain players.That might of been because of him or the club.But when he gets us relegated he has the perfect excuse he inherited someone else's players and a club that had just been promoted and whos players are unfit and argue with one another on the pitch and criticise the previous manager in the media. All down to him lack of discipline and fitness ,he joined us in July and had a full pre-season to put things in place and has not.QPR all over lack of discipline in the dressing room.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 2, 2013 21:27:42 GMT
I just can't believe how different his teams are to the way he played the game. We're a soft touch and weak. I blame the players as much as Hughes though but I have absolutely no idea what it is him Bowen and Nidzu, Nidgsw, Eddie are trying to create. What is it are we trying to be? This is a fair point. He could do no worse than deciding on a first choice 11 now and sticking with them no matter what until he is allowed to bring in better quality (if he is at all) Too much chopping and changing, smacking of desperation to stumble on to a winning formula. |
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Post by keasie1863 on Nov 2, 2013 21:37:07 GMT
MH said he was happy with the squad,he was given money but failed to land certain players.That might of been because of him or the club.But when he gets us relegated he has the perfect excuse he inherited someone else's players and a club that had just been promoted and whos players are unfit and argue with one another on the pitch and criticise the previous manager in the media. All down to him lack of discipline and fitness ,he joined us in July and had a full pre-season to put things in place and has not.QPR all over lack of discipline in the dressing room. He could hardly come out and say, that that the squad is on the whole one paced, lacking in creativity and the chairman only give me fucking 5m quid, now could he.what the fuck did you expect him to say, for fucks sake. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 2, 2013 21:44:42 GMT
I'm impressed, he tries and wins games
He tries and makes what he thinks are the right changes at the right time
And he's trying to evolve the team under difficult conditions
I think the fans should give him a break while he beds in
Drop Walters and nzonzi next week and I will be super impressed
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 2, 2013 21:45:34 GMT
MH said he was happy with the squad,he was given money but failed to land certain players.That might of been because of him or the club.But when he gets us relegated he has the perfect excuse he inherited someone else's players and a club that had just been promoted and whos players are unfit and argue with one another on the pitch and criticise the previous manager in the media. All down to him lack of discipline and fitness ,he joined us in July and had a full pre-season to put things in place and has not.QPR all over lack of discipline in the dressing room. He could hardly come out and say, that that the squad is on the whole one paced, lacking in creativity and the chairman only give me fucking 5m quid, now could he.what the fuck did you expect him to say, for fucks sake. That is true of course but still should have them, fit, working as a unit and pulling together these basics seem to be missing as far as i can see |
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Post by farmer on Nov 2, 2013 21:47:18 GMT
MH said he was happy with the squad,he was given money but failed to land certain players.That might of been because of him or the club.But when he gets us relegated he has the perfect excuse he inherited someone else's players and a club that had just been promoted and whos players are unfit and argue with one another on the pitch and criticise the previous manager in the media. All down to him lack of discipline and fitness ,he joined us in July and had a full pre-season to put things in place and has not.QPR all over lack of discipline in the dressing room. He could hardly come out and say, that that the squad is on the whole one paced, lacking in creativity and the chairman only give me fucking 5m quid, now could he.what the fuck did you expect him to say, for fucks sake. Well he offered 8 million for Diof,plus he should of unloaded if you are correct,i think it was time for TP to leave but to replace him with a manager who changes is team like the wind is wrong.Remember Monday MH will say to Bowen what team are those oatcake managers saying I should pick for Swansea so they are happy. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 2, 2013 21:48:51 GMT
I don't see any "go on John" passion from him.........maybe just his dour demeanour BUT I also get the impression that there is a lack of discipline on the pitch that could be due to a lack managerial control and / or respect .....
Just my perception
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Post by craig67 on Nov 2, 2013 21:51:53 GMT
I just can't believe how different his teams are to the way he played the game. We're a soft touch and weak. I blame the players as much as Hughes though but I have absolutely no idea what it is him Bowen and Nidzu, Nidgsw, Eddie are trying to create. What is it are we trying to be? This is a fair point. He could do no worse than deciding on a first choice 11 now and sticking with them no matter what until he is allowed to bring in better quality (if he is at all) Too much chopping and changing, smacking of desperation to stumble on to a winning formula. Never thought I would agree with Pugsley,but there's always a first time! After 10 games to still be chopping and changing the team hoping to find the holy grail of who might work together smacks of having no idea. He should choose who he thinks is his best XI and stick with it. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 2, 2013 21:53:05 GMT
Left with some poor players but with that in mind done nothing that stands out like winning a football matches.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 2, 2013 21:54:47 GMT
I'm impressed, he tries and wins games He tries and makes what he thinks are the right changes at the right time And he's trying to evolve the team under difficult conditions I think the fans should give him a break while he beds in Drop Walters and nzonzi next week and I will be super impressed Ain't won many Palace just who are complete toss and Wet Sham dire last three home games |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 21:55:07 GMT
I just can't believe how different his teams are to the way he played the game. We're a soft touch and weak. I blame the players as much as Hughes though but I have absolutely no idea what it is him Bowen and Nidzu, Nidgsw, Eddie are trying to create. What is it are we trying to be? this sums it up for me there is a lack of direction. a lack of an idea as to how we are going to win a game and score goals, how are we going to prevent the other team from scoring? what is the plan? it just seems to be a case of putting a bunch of players in the midfield and seeing what happens, with a nod towards getting more possession than we did before. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 21:58:21 GMT
Our midfield line up over the last 6 games:
Arsenal. Wilson, N'Zonzi, Adam.
Norwich. Wilson, N'Zonzi, Adam.
Fulham. Wilson, N'Zonzi, Ireland.
WBA. Adam, N'Zonzi, Ireland.
Man Utd. Palacios, N'Zonzi, Ireland.
Southampton. Whelan, N'Zonzi, Ireland.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 2, 2013 22:01:26 GMT
I agree its way to early to judge but at times we look like 11 strangers thrown together its that disjointed. It is and I think he knows that hence the merry go round we're seeing in the midfield. He knows it's a problem and he's trying to fix it but the tools at hand are just plain shit. Now if he doesn't sign a bloke who we know can be that anchor in the middle come January then I'll be the first in line to string him and Carto up from the nearest crossbar! Agreed |
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Post by geoffscott on Nov 2, 2013 22:02:24 GMT
I'm impressed, he tries and wins games He tries and makes what he thinks are the right changes at the right time And he's trying to evolve the team under difficult conditions I think the fans should give him a break while he beds in Drop Walters and nzonzi next week and I will be super impressed A massive +1 It's almost as if you have been watching Stoke City this season! You also seem to have a clear memory of how Stoke City have performed over the last 2 seasons. As a Stoke City supporter I would like to think the majority of fellow supporters think like this and will SUPPORT the club for the rest of the season. |
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Post by yeswilko on Nov 2, 2013 22:04:00 GMT
We let teams play too much, I thought we would be much more on the front foot. Away from home i'm fairly impressed but at home, at the moment, unimpressed. He needs backing by the chairman in the next transfer window, no excuses, lets see what he can do.
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