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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2013 17:48:58 GMT
I just saw him standing there as Olsson towered above him to win another header, it's something he does a lot of it imo too. And for Olsson I thought he was quite tidy today because usually he's a proper dirty bastard. He's improved a hell of a lot, when he first came to West Brom he was absolute garbage. But you chose to ignore the lack of support for whoever plays up top and just blame the fall guy as per. Come on watch the game! Can you not see where the problem is?? I expect the players up top to compete, it's the minimum they have to do. If it was Crouch, KJ (who I thought was wank today too) or Walters I'd say the same. None of them are good enough irrespective of chance creation or support. I can, I thought the problem today was a lack of a DM and the lack of a central focal point up front. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 17:55:19 GMT
But you chose to ignore the lack of support for whoever plays up top and just blame the fall guy as per. Come on watch the game! Can you not see where the problem is?? I expect the players up top to compete, it's the minimum they have to do. If it was Crouch, KJ (who I thought was wank today too) or Walters I'd say the same. None of them are good enough irrespective of chance creation or support. I can, I thought the problem today was a lack of a DM and the lack of a central focal point up front. So why pick out SJW when you know full well ANY striker would struggle? We are not scoring goals because there is no support from midfield and there is no movement after a pass is made, no attempt to attack the space from midfield. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2013 17:58:47 GMT
I expect the players up top to compete, it's the minimum they have to do. If it was Crouch, KJ (who I thought was wank today too) or Walters I'd say the same. None of them are good enough irrespective of chance creation or support. I can, I thought the problem today was a lack of a DM and the lack of a central focal point up front. So why pick out SJW when you know full well ANY striker would struggle? We are not scoring goals because there is no support from midfield and there is no movement after a pass is made, no attempt to attack the space from midfield. I don't think any striker would struggle. I think ours would because they're all a shower of shite and have been for some time. I wanted two new strikers in the summer because we desperately needed them because this has been happening too often in the past two and a half seasons. And here we are, we need at least two strikers desperately. The midfield could do more but I think Ireland tried his damndest today to link up through the middle but the talent just isn't there. And there's a lack of space but for me that space should be created by the strikers, ours aren't doing that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 17:58:56 GMT
When Kenwyne got up off the bench to warm up, he (Walters) ran around like a spider on heat for the next 5 minutes.
Sadly it didn't work.
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Post by adamsson on Oct 19, 2013 18:11:27 GMT
We looked much better when Kenwynne came on and actually had a couple of chances.
Hopeless as a lone striker, hopeless as winger nothing special played behind the main striker
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Post by adamsson on Oct 19, 2013 18:11:57 GMT
We looked much better when Kenwynne came on and actually had a couple of chances.
Hopeless as a lone striker, hopeless as winger nothing special played behind the main striker
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Post by adamsson on Oct 19, 2013 18:34:12 GMT
Spent 60 mins with his back to goal lost the ball everytime he got it added nothing going forward and nothing defensively
Wank
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Post by jarvinski on Oct 19, 2013 18:36:58 GMT
AGREED
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Post by liathroid on Oct 19, 2013 18:37:25 GMT
We looked much better when Kenwynne came on and actually had a couple of chances. Hopeless as a lone striker, hopeless as winger nothing special played behind the main striker YUP Kenny showed everyone how it should be done (lol)fuck me |
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Post by trigger on Oct 19, 2013 19:01:30 GMT
Hate the bloke with passion, already he'cost us 4 points this season.
Not one for booing but this guy needs hounding out of Dodge ASAP (tosser)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 19:31:26 GMT
I have tried this before with no success but here we go, can any of the Walters lovers please explain what is his best position ?, all I keep seeing is that he works hard and he runs around a lot, we have heard he helps out defensively does he is he a defender ?, he was signed as a winger is he a winger ?, we have been told he should play up front as he a striker ?, we have had he should play as a supporting striker is he a second/defensive striker ?, can any of the Walters lovers please confirm what he is because I have no idea to me he looks pretty shit in all these roles.
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Post by y2j on Oct 19, 2013 19:44:40 GMT
He suits a 4-4-2. His best performances came playing in 2011 with Jones. The guy was isolated and all he could do was chase lost causes.
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Post by owdestokie on Oct 19, 2013 19:47:15 GMT
Spitthedog
How can 2 Premiership managers be so deluded (and an international manager)? What the fuck do they know?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 19:48:28 GMT
He suits a 4-4-2. His best performances came playing in 2011 with Jones. The guy was isolated and all he could do was chase lost causes. Really but MH does not play 4-4 fucking 2 so that sort of blows that out of the water, next. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 19:50:09 GMT
Quite comfortably one of the worst premier league forwards of all time.
Absolute joke that he keeps getting picked and if he continues to be picked it won't take me long to start believing that Hughes isn't the manager we thought we were getting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 19:51:34 GMT
Spitthedog How can 2 Premiership managers be so deluded (and an international manager)? What the fuck do they know? Oh Hello it is the Meerkat , after another abject performance today from your hero, have you decided what his best position is ? I think this is the fourth time I have asked you this so far I have received no credible reply.  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 19, 2013 19:52:42 GMT
Spitthedog How can 2 Premiership managers be so deluded (and an international manager)? What the fuck do they know? What you mean, all three managers, that were, erm, sacked from their posts in the last twelve months? Come on then owd give us a list of the reasons YOU think he's so good then ... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 19:53:30 GMT
Quite comfortably one of the worst premier league forwards of all time. Absolute joke that he keeps getting picked and if he continues to be picked it won't take me long to start believing that Hughes isn't the manager we thought we were getting. Sid you are forgetting the fact that he runs about a lot, the fact that most of it is pointless doesn't seem to matter to some on here. |
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Post by owdestokie on Oct 19, 2013 19:57:35 GMT
Paul
I didn't say and never have that he "so good". Its so easy for the non professionals amongst us to lambast certain players. My point is that people who have either played and/or managed professionally seem to disagree with the man in the street
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Post by owdestokie on Oct 19, 2013 19:59:35 GMT
st9potter
Offer your coaching expertise to to SCFC. When I see you on the bench then I will take you seriously....until then. PS: Shouldn't you be in bed now
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 19, 2013 20:03:13 GMT
Paul I didn't say and never have that he "so good". Its so easy for the non professionals amongst us to lambast certain players. My point is that people who have either played and/or managed professionally seem to disagree with the man in the street And every single one of those professionals has got sacked from their jobs recently. As Sid Little has said above, the more Hughes continues to picks Walters, the less faith I have in him being the man for the job at Stoke. |
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 19, 2013 20:06:12 GMT
Paul I didn't say and never have that he "so good". Its so easy for the non professionals amongst us to lambast certain players. My point is that people who have either played and/or managed professionally seem to disagree with the man in the street And every single one of those professionals has got sacked from their jobs recently. As Sid Little has said above, the more Hughes continues to picks Walters, the less faith I have in him being the man for the job at Stoke. There are very few managers who don't get the sack. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 20:07:04 GMT
st9potter Offer your coaching expertise to to SCFC. When I see you on the bench then I will take you seriously....until then. PS: Shouldn't you be in bed now No I am perhaps not as old as you but I am not ready for bed yet, still waiting for your answer regarding his best position, I think today his performance has dispelled the myth that he is a striker. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 20:12:14 GMT
Paul I didn't say and never have that he "so good". Its so easy for the non professionals amongst us to lambast certain players. My point is that people who have either played and/or managed professionally seem to disagree with the man in the street So by your logic you have concluded that a handful of professionals who apparently rate Walters as a player have more knowledge than thousands who follow football who blatantly don't, is that a fact  |
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 19, 2013 20:12:24 GMT
st9potter Offer your coaching expertise to to SCFC. When I see you on the bench then I will take you seriously....until then. PS: Shouldn't you be in bed now No I am perhaps not as old as you but I am not ready for bed yet, still waiting for your answer regarding his best position, I think today his performance has dispelled the myth that he is a striker. That is your only question and has you have been told before, fans are not the people to answer this the professionals are. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 20:16:32 GMT
st9potter Offer your coaching expertise to to SCFC. When I see you on the bench then I will take you seriously....until then. PS: Shouldn't you be in bed now Are you suggesting that Walters must be a good player because he keeps getting picked? Haven't you got your own mind on our players? I've watched and played enough football over the last 30 odd years to know that Jon Walters (for all his effort) isn't anywhere near good enough to be a regular starter for a premier league club. He didn't even stand out in the championship and has been stealing a living at our club for too long now. I lambasted Pulis for his continual selection and now (after believing that Hughes wouldn't keep picking him) our new manager is going some way to pissing me off as he offers absolutely fucking nothing week in week out! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 19, 2013 20:16:49 GMT
And every single one of those professionals has got sacked from their jobs recently. As Sid Little has said above, the more Hughes continues to picks Walters, the less faith I have in him being the man for the job at Stoke. There are very few managers who don't get the sack. If somebody wants to defend the decision to include Walters in the starting eleven, then I think that defence would carry a bit more credibility if they could actually detail why THEY think he should be in the team, rather than suggesting that the decision must be correct simply because three different manager's have picked him, especially when all of those manager's have been sacked from their posts in the last twelve months. They're hardly glowing references in support of the argument are they? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 20:18:09 GMT
No I am perhaps not as old as you but I am not ready for bed yet, still waiting for your answer regarding his best position, I think today his performance has dispelled the myth that he is a striker. That is your only question and has you have been told before, fans are not the people to answer this the professionals are. So you also have no idea where his best position is, just give your opinion with facts to back it up that is all I ask, doubt I will get a straight answer though it seems to be beyond the Walters rimmers. |
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Post by owdestokie on Oct 19, 2013 20:41:44 GMT
St9potter
Empty vessels make most noise and that is my last reply to a narrow minded individual
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