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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2013 16:44:33 GMT
Is that, despite the platitudes, Sparky is desperate to get more quality into the club and he's working his bollocks off to try and do just that.
Just hope someone is working just as hard trying to move on the rotting remains of the dross still on the books.
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Post by drfishy on Aug 27, 2013 16:58:43 GMT
he's never going to come out and say all the players are shite though is he(just in case he can't replace them) also the potential of increased prices for a desperate club. So far he's done what we should expect - praise his players and look for better.
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Post by jarhead on Aug 27, 2013 17:00:53 GMT
Correct...whelan shotton Walters Edu Ness all have to go for quality not quantity.
Good signing today from Hughes and more to come I hope but a few of the dross from the Dinosaur regime have to go.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Aug 27, 2013 17:02:00 GMT
Agreed. He said the right things but there are those who remain (Walters and whelan are two, maybe Wilkinson a third) who cannot play the new way. It's almost as interesting to think of who might go as it is who might come in.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 27, 2013 17:04:18 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 17:05:15 GMT
Agreed. He said the right things but there are those who remain (Walters and whelan are two, maybe Wilkinson a third) who cannot play the new way. It's almost as interesting to think of who might go as it is who might come in. Everyone knows we need pace and so does the manager. With this in mind we need to stick with him even if results don't go our way! |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2013 17:06:45 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower! Time stands still for no man. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2013 17:09:04 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower! Time stands still for no man. True, but this guy from Liverpool is just a bit of a punt. The real signings have still to happen (hopefully).  |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2013 17:10:16 GMT
Time stands still for no man. True, but this guy from Liverpool is just a bit of a punt. The real signings have still to happen (hopefully). Tend to agree. |
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Post by lancer on Aug 27, 2013 17:11:35 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower! Great post, mate. I concur 100%. God, is doesn't take some people long to forget.We've had a great bunch of lads turning out for us, not world class players, but everyone a spartan. I've loved 'em all, and will always be thankful to them. I know we have to move on and look for better, but for God's sake, don't let's be back stabbers and hypocrits  . |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Aug 27, 2013 17:11:55 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower! Time stands still for no man. You're absolutely right mate and we do need to get players out as well as in. It's just the 'shite and dross' bit that isn't fair. But I know you have a 'colourful' way with words.  |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 27, 2013 17:18:08 GMT
Time stands still for no man. You're absolutely right mate and we do need to get players out as well as in. It's just the 'shite and dross' bit that isn't fair. But I know you have a 'colourful' way with words. It isn't fair I know. I find it extremely difficult to be GRATEFUL to 20K a week footballers and managers. I'll rephrase - hopefully someone is working hard on moving on the fringe players who now aren't up to the job and would benefit themselves and Stoke City by finding a new club. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 27, 2013 17:22:20 GMT
You're absolutely right mate and we do need to get players out as well as in. It's just the 'shite and dross' bit that isn't fair. But I know you have a 'colourful' way with words. It isn't fair I know. I find it extremely difficult to be GRATEFUL to 20K a week footballers and managers. I'll rephrase - hopefully someone is working hard on moving on the fringe players who now aren't up to the job and would benefit themselves and Stoke City by finding a new club. Unfortunately, too many modern footballers are happy to sit on a juicy contract if they can't get as good elsewhere. We might find ourselves in the unpalatable position of having to pay up the remaining months of a player's contract (plus potential bonuses) to get him to move. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Aug 27, 2013 17:23:00 GMT
You're absolutely right mate and we do need to get players out as well as in. It's just the 'shite and dross' bit that isn't fair. But I know you have a 'colourful' way with words. It isn't fair I know. I find it extremely difficult to be GRATEFUL to 20K a week footballers and managers. I'll rephrase - hopefully someone is working hard on moving on the fringe players who now aren't up to the job and would benefit themselves and Stoke City by finding a new club. Think I prefer the old Pugsley to be honest mate. |
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Post by adamsson on Aug 27, 2013 17:25:40 GMT
Is that, despite the platitudes, Sparky is desperate to get more quality into the club and he's working his bollocks off to try and do just that. Just hope someone is working just as hard trying to move on the rotting remains of the dross still on the books. Can't see any team with the money to pay their wages wanting them. |
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Post by Gods on Aug 27, 2013 17:38:47 GMT
You're absolutely right mate and we do need to get players out as well as in. It's just the 'shite and dross' bit that isn't fair. But I know you have a 'colourful' way with words. It isn't fair I know. I find it extremely difficult to be GRATEFUL to 20K a week footballers and managers. I'll rephrase - hopefully someone is working hard on moving on the fringe players who now aren't up to the job and would benefit themselves and Stoke City by finding a new club. What you have hit on might otherwise be known as the hard part. Spending money is easy, selling stuff is hard, particularly so called "dead wood", the extra difficulty with selling "dead wood" as distinct from good players is that it is just that, "dead wood". I;m not even sure it can be done. |
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Post by Sfance on Aug 27, 2013 17:58:41 GMT
If I had to pick between "the rotting remains of the dross still on the books" and "fringe players", I'd definitely go with the former. Pulis should have been forced to take them all with him.
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Post by andystokey on Aug 27, 2013 20:11:19 GMT
I'm in no doubt MH is working his 'taters off and personally too to try and make this window work. Fair play to him.
I think we are really building up some momentum, hopefully a good win on Wednesday, cameos from Brek and Munesia followed by a positive result on Saturday. Couple of quality signings before Tuesday and a nice week off to bed them in and Citeh at home. Happy days.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 27, 2013 20:40:00 GMT
Are these the shite and dross that we have ALL been supporting for the last few years, and who got us to Wembley? What a shower! Indeed. Listening to some of the ramblings you would think we've done fuck all for 5 years |
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Post by mcf on Aug 28, 2013 6:24:34 GMT
Why are any of you surprised?
It is these kind of comments that go with the PHWankstainery.
There Pugsley sits, dismissive of the efforts of the previous manager and players alike because they get paid lots of money and it's their job, yet smothers his face in Hughes fluid becuase he's working his bollocks off having no real idea or not what efforts he is putting it.
Go figure...or put it down to inconsistent, yet typical, wankstainery as usual.
Hughes will be judged on results...not how hard he did or didn't work in a transfer window.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Aug 28, 2013 7:08:46 GMT
Pugs forgot his regular line dat dross wat TP spunked £100m on......  That dross which will continue to form the bulk of our squad going forward |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 28, 2013 8:30:08 GMT
Agreed. He said the right things but there are those who remain (Walters and whelan are two, maybe Wilkinson a third) who cannot play the new way. It's almost as interesting to think of who might go as it is who might come in. At the moment there is not a vast amount of difference between the "new way" and the old way, certainly not in the final third. For that reason, I'd keep Walters for at least this season. Maybe next season we will have progressed far enough to bid our farewells, but for this one I think he still fits into our style of play. |
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Post by Paddypotter on Aug 28, 2013 8:38:20 GMT
Maybe the reason there's little difference in the final third is because we still have the likes of Walters, not a great reason for keeping him.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2013 8:38:48 GMT
Why are any of you surprised? It is these kind of comments that go with the PHWankstainery. There Pugsley sits, dismissive of the efforts of the previous manager and players alike because they get paid lots of money and it's their job, yet smothers his face in Hughes fluid becuase he's working his bollocks off having no real idea or not what efforts he is putting it. Go figure...or put it down to inconsistent, yet typical, wankstainery as usual. Hughes will be judged on results...not how hard he did or didn't work in a transfer window. I'm fully aware of what Hughes will be judged on and I don't need telling by some kind of born again rimmer. Even the mentally challenged can see the manager IS working his bollocks off to get better players. I love it how people pontificate on how great the previous manager was and how grateful we should be - bollocks. Facts are he has spent £100million on footballers yet we're starting again because half of them can't grasp the concept of pass and move. Let's not forget that this hasn't been lost on the powers that be, hence his SACKING. |
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Post by RAF on Aug 28, 2013 8:40:57 GMT
Pugs forgot his regular line dat dross wat TP spunked £100m on...... ::) That dross which will continue to form the bulk of our squad going forward Hughes hasn't really been given a choice about that, it's more about finances and need than actual design. Do you think if Coates had given Hughes 80-100 mill there would be any of the old Pulis lineup left bar maybe 4 players? I don't. H |
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 28, 2013 8:41:51 GMT
Why are any of you surprised? It is these kind of comments that go with the PHWankstainery. There Pugsley sits, dismissive of the efforts of the previous manager and players alike because they get paid lots of money and it's their job, yet smothers his face in Hughes fluid becuase he's working his bollocks off having no real idea or not what efforts he is putting it. Go figure...or put it down to inconsistent, yet typical, wankstainery as usual. Hughes will be judged on results...not how hard he did or didn't work in a transfer window. I'm fully aware of what Hughes will be judged on and I don't need telling by some kind of born again rimmer. Even the mentally challenged can see the manager IS working his bollocks off to get better players. I love it how people pontificate on how great the previous manager was and how grateful we should be - bollocks. Facts are he has spent £100million on footballers yet we're starting again because half of them can't grasp the concept of pass and move. Let's not forget that this hasn't been lost on the powers that be, hence his SACKING. Agree 100% |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 28, 2013 8:48:47 GMT
I'm sure he is but to be fair to his predecessor so did he , I'm sure MH will try to bring us more expansive players and that's why we have made the change but TP did his best
Ba, Remy are two examples of player we had here but could not close the deal , no doubt there were many more.
Its a tough business and perversely it seems that the more money about the harder it is , imagine dropping on a fuller for £500k today lol .
Hopefully we will get a couple more Hoillett and the Striker from Man City would do me in terms of giving us enough to keep our heads above water until January but we do need to somehow shift out a few of our high earners .
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 28, 2013 8:51:26 GMT
Our of all his signings the deal that seems to have cost Pulis the most is the one for Crouch and Palacios
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Aug 28, 2013 8:53:08 GMT
Agreed. He said the right things but there are those who remain (Walters and whelan are two, maybe Wilkinson a third) who cannot play the new way. It's almost as interesting to think of who might go as it is who might come in. Without doubt we need to clear out some dead wood but regards to Walters and Whelan, it looks as though they are both in with a chance in the new regime. Walters has started both games so far and Whelan involved in both so the manager clearly rates them. I'm sure that when better quality is found these two players will be pushed down the pecking order but with parts still to play. It's the member of the squad such as Edu,Ness, Shotton et al who need to be moved on, even on short term loans. The Edu and Ness signings are so bizarre, I hope that one day someone will come out with the truth on why they were signed in the first place. |
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Post by nickstokefc on Aug 28, 2013 8:54:43 GMT
i agree with bexhillpotter, these are the players that took us to wembley twice and europe, the best days of being a stoke fan,
why slag them off, yeah they need to go due to not being good enough,but please dont slate them
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