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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 13, 2013 22:37:25 GMT
Depends whether we get the new pacey forwards in. I am expecting us to concede more goals than before. Judging by the preseason we don't have the players to score more hence we could struggle. To be fair we have had 4 clean sheets on the trot, and have only conceded 2 in all of preseason, in LMH's debut match. Not like we are leaking goals just yet...
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 13, 2013 22:39:54 GMT
It's all in the balance and depends on what happens before the transfer window shuts.
Sign a pacey, mobile front three who can score goals and I'd back us for an entertaining season and a 9th-12th place finish.
I hope I'm wrong, but if we don't sign one striker at the very least then I think we're in trouble.
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 13, 2013 23:06:28 GMT
He won't be the first person to be completely wrong about us
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 13, 2013 23:41:17 GMT
It's all in the balance and depends on what happens before the transfer window shuts. Sign a pacey, mobile front three who can score goals and I'd back us for an entertaining season and a 9th-12th place finish. I hope I'm wrong, but if we don't sign one striker at the very least then I think we're in trouble. Stop fretting, Brek was the highest scorer in MLS at one point and will come good for us, and I think Pennant will really turn it on as well. Coupled with the fact no team has faced us in the Prem under a new system, we have a wild card factor going into every match, especially away from home. It would be amazing if we can get that pacey striker in who we all crave, but I don't think our success, or survival more importantly, necessarily hinges on it. After all we have improved our defensive options dramatically, so let's not jump the gun here.
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Post by bestman on Aug 14, 2013 0:16:14 GMT
Its not going to be an easy ride. Other "previous bankers " ie. West Brom etc. have spent heavily so its going to be tough going.
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 14, 2013 1:00:10 GMT
Its not going to be an easy ride. Other "previous bankers " ie. West Brom etc. have spent heavily so its going to be tough going. No one has an easy ride in the Prem, ask any Arsenal fan who has come to the Brit.
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 31, 2013 16:34:48 GMT
Now what Stan???? 5th in the table and ahead of Man United! Think we have turned a lot of heads today, well done City!!
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 31, 2013 16:35:44 GMT
Can we save the gloating until 40 points, please?
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Post by Stokester on Aug 31, 2013 16:46:29 GMT
Let's not get carried away everyone, we should be fine but there's another 34 points to go yet!
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Post by Jimm on Aug 31, 2013 16:46:56 GMT
Hahaha let's all chill out abit
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Post by djduncanjames on Mar 25, 2014 13:15:36 GMT
Can we save the gloating until 40 points, please? Can we start gloating yet? Collymore must've had an awkward Sunday
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Post by foster on Mar 25, 2014 13:17:52 GMT
Can we save the gloating until 40 points, please? Can we start gloating yet? Collymore must've had an awkward Sunday Collymore is too busy hunting down all the commentators that mistakenly thought Odemwingie had scored the 3rd goal to care about this.
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Post by foxfield on Mar 25, 2014 13:45:22 GMT
Last night Stan Collymore and Mark Saggers spent 3 hours working out how the final league table would look by forecasting the results of the remaining fixtures. The only result of this, for me, was the proof that two Talksport presenters ought to spend the summer break having basic maths lessons. The whole show was a shambles. All they needed was to log on to the predictor which would have done all the calculations for them.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 25, 2014 13:56:47 GMT
I like the Daily Star one, some crackers in there: Chelsea's key player - Juan Mata Man Utd's One to Watch - Tom Cleverley Norwich to be the surprise package
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Post by salopstick on Mar 25, 2014 14:00:16 GMT
some good posts on this thread There isn't half some big girl blousery on this board. New manager, new ideas. What happened to giving him some time? We haven't even played a competitive game yet and some have already thrown the towel in. As for new signings, last time I checked there was still 3 weeks to go in the transfer window. How's about we give the new manager a bit of time and support? Things aren't half as bad as some are making out. I can see why to be honest. We've consistently been one the poorest teams in the league for 18 months with an inability to score goals. As yet MH hasn't addressed that issue so as it stands it's a fair assumption. I'm working on the principal that Hughes will sort this issue by way of signing new players so if you were to ask the same pundits again next month it may be a different story. I wouldn't take much notice of his opinion, he can talk a load of crap at times.I think we will struggle through lack of goals but our defence will keep us up particularly if we keep Begovic.I would say 15th with Hull, Palace, Sunderland , Norwich & WBA below us. There is no doubt he could be right. A lot depends on how Hughes organises our defense, but honestly I worry about the likes of Shawcross and Huth trying to play footballfrom the back. It will probably show why England & Germany passed on both and the best: I think I remember reading somewhere that Hughes' teams are notorious slow-starters. remember guys it s a marathon not a sprint
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Post by prudhoe on Mar 25, 2014 14:02:25 GMT
If i was on the outside looking in i'd of probably said the same about us at the start of the season. A club that has been successful under a manager, playing a certain type of way for a long period of time. Manager who's reputation was in the gutter after QPR, is brought in, to not only keep us up, but also change the style of play. Cant blame people for thinking that was a recipie for disaster at the start of the season. Just shows what a good job Hughes has done.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 25, 2014 14:34:53 GMT
I think I remember reading somewhere that Hughes' teams are notorious slow-starters. remember guys it s a marathon not a sprint See I really don’t get this as much of a positive, whilst Hughes was undoubtedly right when he said his sides get stronger it is the mirror image of saying, ‘my sides start like a train but we get a bit shitter as the season progresses’
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Mar 25, 2014 14:41:01 GMT
remember guys it s a marathon not a sprint See I really don’t get this as much of a positive, whilst Hughes was undoubtedly right when he said his sides get stronger it is the mirror image of saying, ‘my sides start like a train but we get a bit shitter as the season progresses’ Tbf though Momo, its a fair comment for his first season in charge. I imagine next season will be the interesting one.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 25, 2014 14:41:25 GMT
Listened to him nearly in tears last night due to the "gumping" the "clay heads down the road" gave them on Sunday
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 14:43:54 GMT
some good posts on this thread There isn't half some big girl blousery on this board. New manager, new ideas. What happened to giving him some time? We haven't even played a competitive game yet and some have already thrown the towel in. As for new signings, last time I checked there was still 3 weeks to go in the transfer window. How's about we give the new manager a bit of time and support? Things aren't half as bad as some are making out. I can see why to be honest. We've consistently been one the poorest teams in the league for 18 months with an inability to score goals. As yet MH hasn't addressed that issue so as it stands it's a fair assumption. I'm working on the principal that Hughes will sort this issue by way of signing new players so if you were to ask the same pundits again next month it may be a different story. I wouldn't take much notice of his opinion, he can talk a load of crap at times.I think we will struggle through lack of goals but our defence will keep us up particularly if we keep Begovic.I would say 15th with Hull, Palace, Sunderland , Norwich & WBA below us. There is no doubt he could be right. A lot depends on how Hughes organises our defense, but honestly I worry about the likes of Shawcross and Huth trying to play footballfrom the back. It will probably show why England & Germany passed on both and the best: I think I remember reading somewhere that Hughes' teams are notorious slow-starters. remember guys it s a marathon not a sprint I know my onions mate
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Post by salopstick on Mar 25, 2014 14:47:42 GMT
remember guys it s a marathon not a sprint See I really don’t get this as much of a positive, whilst Hughes was undoubtedly right when he said his sides get stronger it is the mirror image of saying, ‘my sides start like a train but we get a bit shitter as the season progresses’ we have been steady all season win a couple, lose a couple, draw a couple, good runs and bad runs - i dont predict finishing top 8 when we are in a good run nor do i do what alot of rimmers were doing predicting relegation when in a bad run any other season 3 teams would be miles ahead, 3 teams would be cut adrift and the middle lot would probably have 8-10 more points
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 14:53:12 GMT
Can we start gloating yet? Collymore must've had an awkward Sunday Collymore is too busy hunting down all the commentators that mistakenly thought Odemwingie had scored the 3rd goal to care about this. according to the ref's official stats it was Oxelade-Chamberlain who scored the third....according to Sol Campbell he'd have been given the credit for the other 3 goals as well if he wasn't black
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Post by metalhead on Mar 25, 2014 14:59:28 GMT
Collymore has always praised us, not sure why people have an issue with him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 15:06:34 GMT
Collymore has always praised us, not sure why people have an issue with him. apparently he must be an idiot for predicting that we might struggle. i mean come on, it's not as if he had anything to base it on...we just about stayed up last year and were a complete unknown quantity this year with having a brand new manager who'd spent bugger all on the side over the summer, he must just be anti-stoke i reckon after all, all the rest of the pundits and 100% of the people on here knew for a fact we'd be safe didn't they? amazing that we're all gloating so much now about how idiotic people like Collymore apparently now look given that most of us on here have spent most of the season worrying about staying up ourselves. i'm with you metalhead, don't have an issue with collymore and can perfectly understand why he thought we might struggle
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Post by SCFC92 on Mar 25, 2014 15:32:58 GMT
If you looked at the start of the season, we had been appalling for a long period, the players looked disinterested, the fans were leaving and we had just made an unpopular appointment of a man who's time at QPR had really dented his reputation... You can see why some opinions were wrongfully formed before giving the man a chance to do exactly what he has done this season!
How wrong was that write up! Hughes has fit us like a glove we've taken to him and everything is united again! :-)
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Post by metalhead on Mar 25, 2014 15:34:55 GMT
Collymore has always praised us, not sure why people have an issue with him. apparently he must be an idiot for predicting that we might struggle. i mean come on, it's not as if he had anything to base it on...we just about stayed up last year and were a complete unknown quantity this year with having a brand new manager who'd spent bugger all on the side over the summer, he must just be anti-stoke i reckon after all, all the rest of the pundits and 100% of the people on here knew for a fact we'd be safe didn't they? amazing that we're all gloating so much now about how idiotic people like Collymore apparently now look given that most of us on here have spent most of the season worrying about staying up ourselves. i'm with you metalhead, don't have an issue with collymore and can perfectly understand why he thought we might struggle I'm pretty sure he's not the only person in the media to think we would struggle. I daresay a few fans thought the same. Changing a manager is always a risk unless you're dead and buried and the fact he had such a poor record at QPR; I wasn't exactly enamoured when he was announced as TP's replacement. Fact is, I was wrong, we're playing good football and we look a better team for it. I'm absolutely certain Stan Collymore will have no problem admitting he was wrong too. As a person, I quite like Collymore. Troubled past, bettered himself and comes across as one of the more reasonable football personalities on TV/Radio. Mick you said something the other week about people getting all paranoid and weird on this board, but I'm starting to think it's true....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 15:40:28 GMT
apparently he must be an idiot for predicting that we might struggle. i mean come on, it's not as if he had anything to base it on...we just about stayed up last year and were a complete unknown quantity this year with having a brand new manager who'd spent bugger all on the side over the summer, he must just be anti-stoke i reckon after all, all the rest of the pundits and 100% of the people on here knew for a fact we'd be safe didn't they? amazing that we're all gloating so much now about how idiotic people like Collymore apparently now look given that most of us on here have spent most of the season worrying about staying up ourselves. i'm with you metalhead, don't have an issue with collymore and can perfectly understand why he thought we might struggle I'm pretty sure he's not the only person in the media to think we would struggle. I daresay a few fans thought the same. Changing a manager is always a risk unless you're dead and buried and the fact he had such a poor record at QPR; I wasn't exactly enamoured when he was announced as TP's replacement. Fact is, I was wrong, we're playing good football and we look a better team for it. I'm absolutely certain Stan Collymore will have no problem admitting he was wrong too. As a person, I quite like Collymore. Troubled past, bettered himself and comes across as one of the more reasonable football personalities on TV/Radio. Mick you said something the other week about people getting all paranoid and weird on this board, but I'm starting to think it's true.... i was being sarky in that first paragraph metalhead, hence the winky thing i'm completely agreeing with you, it was perfectly fair of him to expect us to struggle.everyone did including most on here and it's only in the last 2 or 3 games that the "I told you so" brigade have come out gloating (but have been noticeably absent for much of the season beforehand). i always think it's daft to gloat in hindsight over things like this when most of us have been worried ourselves for the last few months. i have no problem at all with Collymore, i agree that he's probably one of the most level headed and knowledgeable pundits out there to be fair to him. if people now want to say "Ha, i bet he feels pretty fucking stupid now" then that's probably an accusation that could be leveled at 90% of the posters on here over the last few months as well.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 25, 2014 15:59:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure he's not the only person in the media to think we would struggle. I daresay a few fans thought the same. Changing a manager is always a risk unless you're dead and buried and the fact he had such a poor record at QPR; I wasn't exactly enamoured when he was announced as TP's replacement. Fact is, I was wrong, we're playing good football and we look a better team for it. I'm absolutely certain Stan Collymore will have no problem admitting he was wrong too. As a person, I quite like Collymore. Troubled past, bettered himself and comes across as one of the more reasonable football personalities on TV/Radio. Mick you said something the other week about people getting all paranoid and weird on this board, but I'm starting to think it's true.... i was being sarky in that first paragraph metalhead, hence the winky thing i'm completely agreeing with you, it was perfectly fair of him to expect us to struggle.everyone did including most on here and it's only in the last 2 or 3 games that the "I told you so" brigade have come out gloating (but have been noticeably absent for much of the season beforehand). i always think it's daft to gloat in hindsight over things like this when most of us have been worried ourselves for the last few months. i have no problem at all with Collymore, i agree that he's probably one of the most level headed and knowledgeable pundits out there to be fair to him. if people now want to say "Ha, i bet he feels pretty fucking stupid now" then that's probably an accusation that could be leveled at 90% of the posters on here over the last few months as well. Spot on.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 25, 2014 16:05:11 GMT
It's all in the balance and depends on what happens before the transfer window shuts. Sign a pacey, mobile front three who can score goals and I'd back us for an entertaining season and a 9th-12th place finish. I hope I'm wrong, but if we don't sign one striker at the very least then I think we're in trouble. Stop fretting, Brek was the highest scorer in MLS at one point and will come good for us, and I think Pennant will really turn it on as well. Coupled with the fact no team has faced us in the Prem under a new system, we have a wild card factor going into every match, especially away from home. It would be amazing if we can get that pacey striker in who we all crave, but I don't think our success, or survival more importantly, necessarily hinges on it. After all we have improved our defensive options dramatically, so let's not jump the gun here. I'm waiting for Duncan to let us know how he thinks Shea and Pennant have played this season
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Post by djduncanjames on Mar 25, 2014 17:34:25 GMT
Stop fretting, Brek was the highest scorer in MLS at one point and will come good for us, and I think Pennant will really turn it on as well. Coupled with the fact no team has faced us in the Prem under a new system, we have a wild card factor going into every match, especially away from home. It would be amazing if we can get that pacey striker in who we all crave, but I don't think our success, or survival more importantly, necessarily hinges on it. After all we have improved our defensive options dramatically, so let's not jump the gun here. I'm waiting for Duncan to let us know how he thinks Shea and Pennant have played this season To be fair Pennant put us into the top ten! As far as Shea, he's not played for us so what can I say! He was somewhat involved in Porkgate and maybe inspired the Oddie deal, so 2 for 2? :-P
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