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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2013 17:55:10 GMT
Swansea are on the box 2night at 7:30 on ITV4 in their Europa league qualifier against Malmo if anyones interested
Vorm, Rangel, Amat, Williams (c), Davies, Britton, Shelvey, Dyer, Routledge, Michu, Bony
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:00:15 GMT
Swansea have taken two seasons to get a team as good as we have in five.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2013 18:02:05 GMT
I like Swansea, seem to be ran in the right way and play some nice football
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:06:16 GMT
I like the long-term planning that has got them promoted with a team capable of holding their own straight away. This has been about a decade in the making.
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Post by samdamule on Aug 1, 2013 18:14:01 GMT
I like the long-term planning that has got them promoted with a team capable of holding their own straight away. This has been about a decade in the making. Slightly contradicting of your earlier post, first two seasons now a decade? make your mind up  I'm a big fan of Swansea and they have a great squad and a top manager, is this Bony's debut or has he played before? |
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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2013 18:16:16 GMT
I like the long-term planning that has got them promoted with a team capable of holding their own straight away. This has been about a decade in the making. Slightly contradicting of your earlier post, first two seasons now a decade? make your mind up ;) I'm a big fan of Swansea and they have a great squad and a top manager, is this Bony's debut or has he played before? Think he's played for them in pre season games, but i'm excited to see him play, seems like a quality striker |
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Post by samdamule on Aug 1, 2013 18:20:01 GMT
Slightly contradicting of your earlier post, first two seasons now a decade? make your mind up I'm a big fan of Swansea and they have a great squad and a top manager, is this Bony's debut or has he played before? Think he's played for them in pre season games, but i'm excited to see him play, seems like a quality striker His goal scoring record is excellent, I have high hopes for him. My friend is a swans fan and he said Shelvey has looked brilliant in there pre season games, although when you're beating teams 10-0 I imagine anyone on their team looks good... EDIT: a few highlights from that victory, their opponents there looks pretty poor, don't think I could make a judgement till we see Bony play in the prem i guess, I'm excited to see it though! |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:21:50 GMT
I like the long-term planning that has got them promoted with a team capable of holding their own straight away. This has been about a decade in the making. Slightly contradicting of your earlier post, first two seasons now a decade? make your mind up I'm a big fan of Swansea and they have a great squad and a top manager, is this Bony's debut or has he played before? I mean they've been in the league two years. But yeah, I see what you mean. I do talk a lot of shite. Swansea are pretty much the model for any small but ambitious lower league team to follow. They've put a structure in place that means it doesn't actually matter who the manager is as long as they buy into the footballing philosophy. Jackett > Martinez > Sousa > Rodgers > Laudrup has been almost seemless and that goes back to April 2004. |
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Post by RAF on Aug 1, 2013 18:25:52 GMT
Swansea have taken two seasons to get a team as good as we have in five. Better surely? A cup and finishing higher than us. H |
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Post by musik on Aug 1, 2013 18:27:59 GMT
Malmö FF will get a draw at least.  |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:30:59 GMT
Swansea have taken two seasons to get a team as good as we have in five. Better surely? A cup and finishing higher than us. H Part of it is how you get the team to play though isn't it? We've got players as good that haven't been allowed to express themselves. |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Aug 1, 2013 18:31:28 GMT
Fall and Rise of Swansea was a good programme last night.
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Post by CrazyPotter on Aug 1, 2013 18:32:40 GMT
Swansea have taken two seasons to get a team as good as we have in five. Better surely? A cup and finishing higher than us. H And some bright supporters of ours were singing the "this is what its like when your team wins nothing at all" chant at their place in January. On the eve of their league cup semi 2nd leg (eventual victory) and when they were comfortably above us in the league. Idiots. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 1, 2013 18:34:53 GMT
Better surely? A cup and finishing higher than us. H Part of it is how you get the team to play though isn't it? We've got players as good that haven't been allowed to express themselves. That is a hypothesis we all seem to be clinging to - the facts to date show us they are better Hypothesis wise, they have also bought better, so far than us |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:37:44 GMT
Part of it is how you get the team to play though isn't it? We've got players as good that haven't been allowed to express themselves. That is a hypothesis we all seem to be clinging to - the facts to date show us they are better Hypothesis wise, they have also bought better, so far than us I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 1, 2013 18:39:34 GMT
Shelvey has apparently been absolutely class for them in pre season. He's been playing deeper as opposed to the AM role for Liverpool where he looked gash.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 1, 2013 18:41:38 GMT
That is a hypothesis we all seem to be clinging to - the facts to date show us they are better Hypothesis wise, they have also bought better, so far than us I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. You may think that the but the table and their achievements would disagree |
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Post by RAF on Aug 1, 2013 18:50:27 GMT
That is a hypothesis we all seem to be clinging to - the facts to date show us they are better Hypothesis wise, they have also bought better, so far than us I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. I don't and you you have contradicted yourself with your Michu statement. If he is a class above we don't have a player who is as good as him. H |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:52:50 GMT
I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. You may think that the but the table and their achievements would disagree Well they play superior football don't they? That much is obvious. But If you were to make an XI out of both teams it'd be half and half. Bony has probably tipped it in Swansea's favour but he could still be a flop. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 1, 2013 18:53:04 GMT
I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. I don't and you you have contradicted yourself with your Michu statement. If he is a class above we don't have a player who is as good as him. H Oh sod off RAF - we are agreeing and the bloody season has not started yet  does not bode well |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 18:54:16 GMT
I think player for player we are as good as Swansea, even if they do have Michu who is clearly a class above again. When Bony finishes leading scorer in the league with 35 I might change my mind. I don't and you you have contradicted yourself with your Michu statement. If he is a class above we don't have a player who is as good as him. H We don't. But we have 5 players who are as good or better than the rest of their team in their respective positions. |
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Post by RAF on Aug 1, 2013 18:59:03 GMT
I don't and you you have contradicted yourself with your Michu statement. If he is a class above we don't have a player who is as good as him. H We don't. But we have 5 players who are as good or better than the rest of their team in their respective positions. Our keeper is a tad better, our central defenders are better, and we have one central midfielder who has the potential to be better, that's it for me. H |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 19:04:38 GMT
Begovic
Rangel Shawcross Huth Muniesa
Pennant Nzonzi Shelvey Routledge
Michu
Bony (maybe)
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 19:05:45 GMT
I think Williams is better overall than Huth but you would beg to differ. |
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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2013 19:06:24 GMT
Begovic Rangel Shawcross Huth Muniesa Pennant Nzonzi Shelvey Routledge Michu Bony (maybe) I'd swap Ashley Williams for Shawcross and be debatable on Muniesa/Davis |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 19:09:29 GMT
Begovic Rangel Shawcross Huth Muniesa Pennant Nzonzi Shelvey Routledge Michu Bony (maybe) I'd swap Ashley Williams for Shawcross and be debatable on Muniesa/Davis It's debatable because they're about as good as each other. Just like the teams overall... |
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Post by RAF on Aug 1, 2013 19:10:03 GMT
I think Williams is better overall than Huth but you would beg to differ. ;) I rate Williams, whether he would work as well with Shawcross as Huth does I don't suppose will will ever know, but I wouldn't be disappointed with him. I wouldn't want Shelvey either from what I've seen of him at Liverpool, but he might be a different player for Swansea. H |
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Post by Jimm on Aug 1, 2013 19:11:58 GMT
I'd swap Ashley Williams for Shawcross and be debatable on Muniesa/Davis It's debatable because they're about as good as each other. Just like the teams overall... Very true |
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Post by Pricey on Aug 1, 2013 19:13:32 GMT
Palacios may be a better bet than Shelvey if he actually gets his act together. Or Wilson but I have serious doubts about that. Shelvey's like a very shit Gerrard though.
We're well-matched but after five years in the league and having only been promoted to the Championship in 2007 Swansea should probably still be playing catch-up.
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Post by padders01 on Aug 1, 2013 19:17:16 GMT
Some of the football from Swansea is brilliant to watch
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does not bode well
