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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 9, 2013 6:28:25 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Mark-Hughes-assess-Stoke-City-squad-transfer/story-19494156-detail/story.htmlThe manager said: "The next couple of weeks are going to be important in terms of how I view the quality of the group and what we need. "We will look at what we have got and if I think the right quality is here then the people upstairs won't have to write cheques for me. "But if I go to the owners and say we need a new signing that will help us this season, then I am sure they will support me on that." You will and lets hope they do Hull also want Palacios - but on a free  Meanwhile, top-flight new boys Hull City are ready to open talks with Stoke about signing Wilson Palacios, but they aren't prepared to pay a fee for the midfielder.
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Jul 9, 2013 6:51:51 GMT
signing imminent then
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 9, 2013 6:56:10 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 9, 2013 7:08:09 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality. He needs to see them train, see their characters, their work ethic and their ability up close. Making rash decisions because the fans think they know best would be a stupid thing to do. He has plenty of transfer window to go. |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 9, 2013 7:08:17 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality. He's hardly going to say that. It's all cat and mouse, wind yet neck in and be patient |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 7:22:01 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality. He hasn't been sat on the terraces all season |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 7:42:54 GMT
If Hull offer us three quid and a scotch egg for Palacios we should take it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 7:53:44 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality. It is glaringly obvious to people who have watched us week in week out for the last however many seasons. I don't get how people can't understand that a new manager needs to see his new squad train and play friendlies,so that he can assess the quality of it and see where it might need shaking up a bit? It's obvious isn't it? |
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jul 9, 2013 8:13:59 GMT
'We will look at what we have got....'ffs doesn't he already know? Its glaringly obvious where we lack quality. It is glaringly obvious to people who have watched us week in week out for the last however many seasons. I don't get how people can't understand that a new manager needs to see his new squad train and play friendlies,so that he can assess the quality of it and see where it might need shaking up a bit? It's obvious isn't it? Are you being serious? I don't think every manager in the land knows what the weakness is of ever Premier league team, do you? He will know the reputation we have as a long ball and physical side but for sure won't know what the individual qualities of each player is and which players are capable of adapting to his style and which are not. There are too many people throwing criticism at the new regime and the players haven't kicked a ball yet. Oh well, I suppose somethings don't change, a certain section of fans have to have a good moan come what may. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 8:17:25 GMT
He will have watched replays of matches, he will have a good idea of what players are needed.
He's not going come out on day 1 and say well I already know we need this and that as they aren't good enough.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 9, 2013 8:20:19 GMT
Following Hughes reasoning through you have to presume there will also be no outgoings during the next couple of weeks either. That will take us virtually to August and only one definite starter acquired and an awful lot of dead wood to shift.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 9, 2013 8:20:21 GMT
Slightly concerning. It's pretty clear we need more pace in the side.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 8:22:08 GMT
Following Hughes reasoning through you have to presume there will also be no outgoings during the next couple of weeks either. That will take us virtually to August and only one definite starter acquired and an awful lot of dead wood to shift. So pretty standard for us then. |
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 9, 2013 8:23:31 GMT
"I aim to be very busy in the transfer market and I'm going to spend loadsa money! Come at me agents!"
This is the approach I would prefer to see personally
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 8:24:04 GMT
It is glaringly obvious to people who have watched us week in week out for the last however many seasons. I don't get how people can't understand that a new manager needs to see his new squad train and play friendlies,so that he can assess the quality of it and see where it might need shaking up a bit? It's obvious isn't it? Are you being serious? I don't think every manager in the land knows what the weakness is of ever Premier league team, do you? He will know the reputation we have as a long ball and physical side but for sure won't know what the individual qualities of each player is and which players are capable of adapting to his style and which are not. There are too many people throwing criticism at the new regime and the players haven't kicked a ball yet. Oh well, I suppose somethings don't change, a certain section of fans have to have a good moan come what may. I think you may need to read my post a little bit more carefully mate before running your mouth off  |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 9, 2013 8:24:16 GMT
Rob, Palacios departing means someone new comes in. Palacios leaving for nothing is ludicrous and if he can prove his fitness and ability to Hughes then maybe, just maybe, he has a part to play. What with the N'Zonzi situation we don't want to find ourselves with a midfield of Adam, Whelan and a.n. other. Replacing Palacios and N'Zonzi is more than possible, but it makes the rebuilding job even bigger and more disruptive.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 9, 2013 8:25:49 GMT
Following Hughes reasoning through you have to presume there will also be no outgoings during the next couple of weeks either. That will take us virtually to August and only one definite starter acquired and an awful lot of dead wood to shift. So pretty standard for us then. I was hoping all the recent upheaval was in the name of some improvement, Rob! |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 9, 2013 8:27:06 GMT
Following Hughes reasoning through you have to presume there will also be no outgoings during the next couple of weeks either. That will take us virtually to August and only one definite starter acquired and an awful lot of dead wood to shift. Absolutely. As I said- concerning. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 9, 2013 8:28:32 GMT
Maybe we just have to get used to 'dealing' as any other mid table Prem club now = new direction.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 9, 2013 8:29:05 GMT
PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by stokeramblers on Jul 9, 2013 8:29:36 GMT
Just to point put that most managers seem to speak in half truths to the press.
It wasn't just a Pulis phenomenon.
I'm sure the club are still actively pursuing players that could improve the squad whilst also trying to pimp out some of the deadwood.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 9, 2013 8:30:06 GMT
"I aim to be very busy in the transfer market and I'm going to spend loadsa money! Come at me agents!" This is the approach I would prefer to see personally Or he could just say nothing? It's clear we need to get rid of certain players a d it's clear we see weak in certain areas. Why wait 2 weeks? I'm hoping he's bullshitting because we can't really afford to wait till August to make new signings/sell deadwood. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 8:30:49 GMT
So pretty standard for us then. I was hoping all the recent upheaval was in the name of some improvement, Rob! Two left backs for around half the cost of a Dean Whitehead is a promising start Sheiky. |
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Post by crouchbot on Jul 9, 2013 8:30:56 GMT
Personally I'm glad he's taking this approach. Better than the 'throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks' method he used at Citeh and QPR. Our squad is not as bad as many make out. Infact, if players are used correctly, it's a decent squad that needs maybe 2 or 3 new faces. We can't just change a load of players round, it would be disastrous.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 9, 2013 8:31:01 GMT
*are weak
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 8:34:16 GMT
Rob, Palacios departing means someone new comes in. Palacios leaving for nothing is ludicrous and if he can prove his fitness and ability to Hughes then maybe, just maybe, he has a part to play. What with the N'Zonzi situation we don't want to find ourselves with a midfield of Adam, Whelan and a.n. other. Replacing Palacios and N'Zonzi is more than possible, but it makes the rebuilding job even bigger and more disruptive. Cuvelier and Ness can step into 'the Palacios role' Jimmy. I don't believe in fairies and I don't believe in miracles, which is why I don't believe he has any future here. We need to get rid for pretty much any fee we can and free up a hefty wage for someone who can actually offer us something. Why would anyone pay a fee for him based on the last two years? |
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Post by drfishy on Jul 9, 2013 8:36:33 GMT
Personally I'm glad he's taking this approach. Better than the 'throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks' method he used at Citeh and QPR. Our squad is not as bad as many make out. Infact, if players are used correctly, it's a decent squad that needs maybe 2 or 3 new faces. We can't just change a load of players round, it would be disastrous. Exactly! If he had gone out and signed 6 players by now everybody would have been saying he was doing exactly the same as he did at QPR and that we were going to follow the same route to the championship. A lot of players were told to do a job by Pulis - their role will certainly change with Hughes and he needs to see if they can actually play the way he wants. |
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Post by scfc5 on Jul 9, 2013 8:37:39 GMT
Surely he has to see the players before judging anything other than where he already knows we have a big hole (right wing and left-back). What message would it send to even the better players if he started deciding we needed more before seeing them up close? It would also be reinforcing the QPR image, which I imagine he is very keen to avoid!
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 9, 2013 8:40:06 GMT
Surely he has to see the players before judging anything other than where he already knows we have a big hole (right wing and left-back). What message would it send to even the better players if he started deciding we needed more before seeing them up close? It would also be reinforcing the QPR image, which I imagine he is very keen to avoid! Which makes the hole at LB massive if he decided to fill it before seeing what he has. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 9, 2013 8:40:10 GMT
I was hoping all the recent upheaval was in the name of some improvement, Rob! Two left backs for around half the cost of a Dean Whitehead is a promising start Sheiky. I'm personally not sure we'll see a great deal of Muniesa in the first team next season Rob and he clearly sees himself as a centre half. A 5'11 centre half with no top flight experience says to me we probably need another centre half as cover unless Pieters is good enough in that position. It's good our contact book now goes further South than Sandbanks and we have undoubtedly acquired a talented footballer but one that raises more questions than answers in terms of our current problems. |
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