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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 19, 2013 13:55:01 GMT
Hmm. Hughes"I don’t think we need to bring in many new faces; just one or two to help the group that we’ve already got here.” |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 13:56:49 GMT
I make it at least 7.
2 strikers
2 wingers
1 left back
1 centre back
1 central midfielder
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 13:57:31 GMT
Strewth. We need half a dozen, maybe more.
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Post by Gods on Jun 19, 2013 13:59:05 GMT
Rip & Replace = Crash & Burn
There is hope for this man.
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Post by barlow1 on Jun 19, 2013 14:00:10 GMT
Left back, midfielder striker. Nothing too drastic if we get the right talent in. Plus players playing in right positions will be like new signings. Id be happy with just 2 maybe 3 signings
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Post by Titan Uranus on Jun 19, 2013 14:01:35 GMT
Not really liking what I'm seeing and hearing at the moment..
one or two new faces and a clapped out winger on the cheap.
mmmm...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:02:12 GMT
hard to tell really
if we're going by the idea that many use, that Ryan (for instance) IS capable of playing far better and doing far more than he has but he was confined and restricted by the style Pulis insisted he played so he couldn't show what he actually really is capable of, then for all we know we COULD have the players already that could do well if played in a different way
based on the last couple of years then i agree with Rob but we can't use the excuse (which we have been) that some of our players ARE better than they appear for Pulis when it suits us and now decide they're just shit in general
that's the problem that we as fans face for this transfer window....we have NO idea what style Hughes is planning to play, the personnel he feels can play that way or what his vision for the future is so what we're basically all doing at the moment is deciding that x would fit us like a glove, y needs to go, z has potential to improve and all of it is based solely on what we've seen the last few years. we simply HAVE to forget all that; all of that was based around 1 man and HIS style which was unbending, no compromise and archaic so will have little to no bearing on what happens from here on in or the people that can fulfill what Hughes wants to see at the club.
basically, it's completely impossible for us to judge until we see exactly how Hughes wants to set the team up and how he wants them to play
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jun 19, 2013 14:04:00 GMT
I din't read it as a literal 1 or 2, it's just a figure of speech isn't it?
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Post by jacksscfc on Jun 19, 2013 14:05:00 GMT
Left back, centre half and a winger who could play on both flanks is all we need. If you put players in there natural positions and fill the positions we dont have enough cover or quality there and we will be ok.
on the striker note if you give the right service to Jones, Jerome, crouch and Walters they will score goals especially if Adam is allowed to play centrally and we have a little width. N'Zonzi as the midfield holding player and natural fullbacks with Wilson, Wilko, Cameron and another CB as cover we have the makings of a good squad IMO.
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Post by redwhite on Jun 19, 2013 14:06:46 GMT
I think this is a good move. He isn't literally going to limit his purchases to 2 players but the last thing we want is a completely new team. We need to build on what we have gradually, not all at once.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 19, 2013 14:07:02 GMT
I agree with Hughes, strong statement
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Post by dieguito88 on Jun 19, 2013 14:07:53 GMT
Hmm. Hughes"I don’t think we need to bring in many new faces; just one or two to help the group that we’ve already got here.”Typical "Kansas City Shuffle": we will end with 5 new faces  |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jun 19, 2013 14:10:05 GMT
In all fairness, I can't really see him coming out and saying "We need a major overhaul. The squad is shite apart from the odd couple of players".
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 14:10:08 GMT
I suppose one new striker would do but we definitely need one. But Jones especially for me can be sold and Crouch isn't too far behind. It's time to move on.
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Post by geoff321 on Jun 19, 2013 14:10:57 GMT
On the basis Stoke have been the third biggest spenders in the PL since 2008, then clearly the spending will be cut back dramatically.
Hasn't Peter Coates said as much?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:11:14 GMT
I'm sure he doesn't mean that literally, we need at least 5
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 14:12:09 GMT
On the basis Stoke have been the third biggest spenders in the PL since 2008, then clearly the spending will be cut back dramatically. Hasn't Peter Coates said as much? He hasn't said anything differently than before. Hopefully Hughes will take heed of what he's said unlike Pulis. It's what killed him. |
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Post by stokeramblers on Jun 19, 2013 14:12:36 GMT
I'd rather see him repeat last year at QPR. Cast aside the bedrock of the team and the trustworthy stalwarts and bring in shitloads of new players with jazzy names.
It's a successful formula I tells ya.
Left-Back and a striker?
Leaves us short a winger probably.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:13:15 GMT
Looks like the bank of Bet365 has been closed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 14:14:12 GMT
I'd rather see him repeat last year at QPR. Cast aside the bedrock of the team and the trustworthy stalwarts and bring in shitloads of new players with jazzy names. It's a successful formula I tells ya. Left-Back and a striker? Leaves us short a winger probably. I'd say we have 4 trusty stalwarts. 2 of them could be leaving in the summer (Bego and N'Zonzi), 2 of them are hopefully staying (Shawcross and Huth). After that I really aren't arsed about any of them being sold!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:14:56 GMT
We could get away with 3 probably, although 4 would be better.
A left back and a winger are a must. A new forward and, depending on who leaves, another winger or centre mid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:15:00 GMT
Isn't there a middle ground between changing too much and not changing enough?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 19, 2013 14:16:29 GMT
I'd rather see him repeat last year at QPR. Cast aside the bedrock of the team and the trustworthy stalwarts and bring in shitloads of new players with jazzy names. It's a successful formula I tells ya. Left-Back and a striker? Leaves us short a winger probably. I'd say we have 4 trusty stalwarts. 2 of them could be leaving in the summer (Bego and N'Zonzi), 2 of them are hopefully staying (Shawcross and Huth). After that I really aren't arsed about any of them being sold! I was going to say - have we actually got a "bedrock" and "trusty stalwarts"? It sounds eminently sensible not to change much too soon - and he's obviously been scarred by what he did this time last year. But I think he'll be surprised at how poor his squad is in lots of areas. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:17:42 GMT
A left back and centre half cover are a must. At least one centre mid, possibly two. At least one winger, possibly two. And maybe a striker, right back and keeper as well...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 14:20:26 GMT
I'd say we have 4 trusty stalwarts. 2 of them could be leaving in the summer (Bego and N'Zonzi), 2 of them are hopefully staying (Shawcross and Huth). After that I really aren't arsed about any of them being sold! I was going to say - have we actually got a "bedrock" and "trusty stalwarts"? It sounds eminently sensible not to change much too soon - and he's obviously been scarred by what he did this time last year. But I think he'll be surprised at how poor his squad is in lots of areas. I think by including N'Zonzi it shows we haven't. Anyone is fair game after that. The more I look at the squad and the players I'd want desperately (a left back, central midfielder, striker and winger) then I'd be very tempted to sell Wilson. Enormously tempted in fact. He's going to be a conundrum for Hughes I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:22:16 GMT
A left back and centre half cover are a must. At least one centre mid, possibly two. At least one winger, possibly two. And maybe a striker, right back and keeper as well... surely won't need a keeper? if Bego stays then we're fine, if he goes then Sorro will be happy (i'm still happy enough with him too) and Butland as number 2 either way i can't see how we could justify needing another after getting Butland already |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:24:20 GMT
If we lose Bego, NZonzi and others then obviously we need more than one or two. As thinfs stand though we'd be ok.
A new LB frees Wilson up for midfield or RB. Cameron could be a useful squad player if played in the right position; same for Adam. Pennant potentially could be like a new player for us too.
Jones/Crouch
NEW LW Pennant
NZonzi Adam Wilson
NEW LB Huth Ryan Shots/Wilko
Bego
Squad players:
Shea
Cameron
Jerome
Palacios
Walters
Whelan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2013 14:27:00 GMT
If Wilson is to be used as a midfielder then we need to sign 2 left backs and will still need a centre half, Cameron is shit there. I don't mind one player covering a few positions but having 2 covering 3 or 4 each is stupid and that's exactly what Wilson and Cameron would be doing.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 19, 2013 14:27:07 GMT
we have a top ten squad already, just needs tweaking, get rid of dead wood like Adam
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:27:55 GMT
A left back and centre half cover are a must. At least one centre mid, possibly two. At least one winger, possibly two. And maybe a striker, right back and keeper as well... surely won't need a keeper? if Bego stays then we're fine, if he goes then Sorro will be happy (i'm still happy enough with him too) and Butland as number 2 either way i can't see how we could justify needing another after getting Butland already It's a tricky one isn't it? If Begovic stays, is Butland going to be happy to be number two and Sorensen number three? If Butland goes on loan are we going to be able to recall him? If Begovic goes, are we going to rely on young JB? Won't we need a third choice in that scenario too? |
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