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Post by philm87 on May 31, 2013 22:34:33 GMT
Try viewing this from Peter Coates's perspective for a minute.
Your family is worth nearly £1 billion and business is expanding into new markets. My initial reaction when I heard about this was to say 'fuck him of sharpish' but if I was in Coates's position I would be tempted to let him serve out the remainder of his contract.
'You are contracted to this football club for three more years Stephen. If £30,000 a week is the going rate for making sure you sulk away your talents in obscurity then that is a price I am more than willing to pay. Enjoy the next three years in the Development Squad you ungrateful French mardarse...'
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Post by owdestokie on May 31, 2013 22:35:05 GMT
Who would consider N'Zonzi as a "Stoke City" player?.
He appears to be on a long list of players who will disappear into the mist of time who have demonstrated a complete "personal" lack of commitment to their employer.
In simple terms "if" he fits into the above fuck him off and who really gives a shit
If the above is correct I would love the opportunity of opening the taxi door
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Post by GrandStokie on May 31, 2013 22:36:12 GMT
N'Zonzi has been a dominating figure for us this season bossing it in front of the defence, an extending leg to win the ball or nick it away when he needs to and very neat and tidy on the ball and a bloody good athlete to boot. If we are forced to sell him we will probably end up with someone half as good for twice the money. For that reason I'll be pleased if this can be brought to a satisfactory resolution. He's sulks like a big kid! Lets say we do pacify him, how long until his next strop. Get shot of him I'm sure Sparky will find a suitable replacement.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 31, 2013 22:41:14 GMT
If he was promised it, we should be giving it to him, we need to keep hold of our better players.
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Post by block27row27 on May 31, 2013 22:47:36 GMT
It's times like these that I realise how much I hate the media
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 31, 2013 22:48:07 GMT
If he was promised it, we should be giving it to him, we need to keep hold of our better players. If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0
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Post by jedwards on May 31, 2013 22:48:27 GMT
so i take it everyone believes the telegraph now ?
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 31, 2013 22:52:31 GMT
so i take it everyone believes the telegraph now ? Yes....The mercenary twat has asked for a transfer. Would you like it in writing or would a verbal assurance do...?>..
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 31, 2013 22:52:52 GMT
Like it or not , Nzonzi is a very good footballer.
His attitude is more than questionable, he's petulant and he has no idea what loyalty is.
But he's the best midfielder we have by a long way and if I was a new manager I would be desperate to keep him. If he wanted out because there were big clubs after him I could understand but Norwich and West ham? Something just doesn't seem right. I do wonder if there is more to this story and he was indeed promised a better contract.
Either way, if he goes, he will be a big loss make no mistake. Whilst we don't want players with a shit attitude like Pennant, Nzonzi doesn't seemingly have any off the field issues. He will be hard to replace for the money. We aren't exactly blessed in the centre midfield department.
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Post by redwhite on May 31, 2013 22:55:57 GMT
Give him a better contract, pay him more, do whatever to make him stay. We will not be able to afford a better defensive midfielder. He's absolutely fantastic and we need to keep him.
Can't believe some people actually don't see his ability. He is miles better than pretty much all of our squad. Miles better.
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Post by AlanHansen on May 31, 2013 22:56:02 GMT
I hope he stays and we can put this behind us. He's a quality midfielder, we've not seen one as good at Stoke for a good while.
Having said that, if he does still want to go then we should fuck him off ASAP.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 31, 2013 22:59:53 GMT
If he was promised it, we should be giving it to him, we need to keep hold of our better players. If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0 Exactly, that's the other sign of the coin, if he's full of shit then best to get rid, it will only get worse, personally I really hope he stays.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 31, 2013 23:00:02 GMT
If he was promised it, we should be giving it to him, we need to keep hold of our better players. If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0 Or if it was in his contract and hasn't been given what was promised? Stoke 1 - N'zonzi 1 There are some gullible fuckers on here, or is it agenda s? I can never tell.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 31, 2013 23:03:30 GMT
Give him a better contract, pay him more, do whatever to make him stay. We will not be able to afford a better defensive midfielder. He's absolutely fantastic and we need to keep him. Can't believe some people actually don't see his ability. He is miles better than pretty much all of our squad. Miles better. I can understand people questioning his attitude, but not his ability.
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Post by owdestokie on May 31, 2013 23:04:07 GMT
I hope he stays if he understands and accepts that (1) he is not bigger than SCFC and (2). his a team player and member of a squad
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Post by pittshillplotter on May 31, 2013 23:08:50 GMT
If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0 Or if it was in his contract and hasn't been given what was promised? Stoke 1 - N'zonzi 1 There are some gullible fuckers on here, or is it agenda s? I can never tell. I'm not surprised... There's a big difference between a written contractual agreement and a verbal assurance. If he doesn't know the difference , then he's as thick as I expected him to be.
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Post by philm87 on May 31, 2013 23:14:02 GMT
If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0 Or if it was in his contract and hasn't been given what was promised? Stoke 1 - N'zonzi 1 There are some gullible fuckers on here, or is it agenda s? I can never tell. Agendas again? People with different opinions agendas are always cropping up on here!
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Post by jedwards on May 31, 2013 23:39:15 GMT
so i take it everyone believes the telegraph now ? Yes....The mercenary twat has asked for a transfer. Would you like it in writing or would a verbal assurance do...?>.. hmm slightly hostile but ok my question was blunt but i aren't apologizing for asking a question especially not to you
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Post by kylelightbourne on May 31, 2013 23:48:51 GMT
If he wasn't , or it's not written into his contract , or he's lying.... Tough shit.... Do one.... GAME OVER. STOKE 1 N'Zonzi 0 Or if it was in his contract and hasn't been given what was promised? Stoke 1 - N'zonzi 1 There are some gullible fuckers on here, or is it agenda s? I can never tell. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without the word 'agenda' being used, what on earth are you talking about?! It is possible for people to have differing opinions
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Post by Kjones9 on May 31, 2013 23:54:41 GMT
Or if it was in his contract and hasn't been given what was promised? Stoke 1 - N'zonzi 1 There are some gullible fuckers on here, or is it agenda s? I can never tell. I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without the word 'agenda' being used, what on earth are you talking about?! It is possible for people to have differing opinions Thanks for taking an interest, I'm flattered. Why did you copy phills post?
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Post by Kjones9 on May 31, 2013 23:56:20 GMT
I'm just saying people chose to believe media bollocks as fact when it suits, is that ok.?
Look no mention of agenda.
(Damn it)
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Post by kylelightbourne on May 31, 2013 23:56:22 GMT
I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without the word 'agenda' being used, what on earth are you talking about?! It is possible for people to have differing opinions Thanks for taking an interest, I'm flattered. Why did you copy phills post? I hadn't seen it Says something though doesn't it
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Post by kylelightbourne on May 31, 2013 23:59:19 GMT
I'm just saying people chose to believe media bollocks as fact when it suits, is that ok.? Look no mention of agenda. (Damn it) How does this suit anything? I'd love N'zonzi to have a great attitude and I'd love it if he wanted to play for us, I really would!
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Post by AdderleyGreenStokie on Jun 1, 2013 0:02:00 GMT
N'Zonzi thinks he's too good for Stoke. As soon as a player thinks that, fuck him off. Simple as that really.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 1, 2013 0:02:37 GMT
I'm just saying people chose to believe media bollocks as fact when it suits, is that ok.? Look no mention of agenda. (Damn it) How does this suit anything? I'd love N'zonzi to have a great attitude and I'd love it if he wanted to play for us, I really would! And the original point you picked up on wasn't even aimed at you, it just suits some people who have never given him the chance, for some reason.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Jun 1, 2013 0:10:10 GMT
How does this suit anything? I'd love N'zonzi to have a great attitude and I'd love it if he wanted to play for us, I really would! And the original point you picked up on wasn't even aimed at you, it just suits some people who have never given him the chance, for some reason. Okay fair enough A premiership footballer moaning and handing in transfer requests will rarely get much sympathy from the clubs fans though
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 1, 2013 0:32:24 GMT
Hughes quotes have nothing to do with this story they have been copy and pasted from the interview he did when talking in general about stoke players..
Non story.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 1, 2013 7:38:43 GMT
It depends really, if he was told that if you play a set amount of games you will be given a bonus or a pay increase then he has a genuine complaint, If I was told that in my job and it didn't transpire I would want out to. There are two sides to every story, let Hughes sit down with him and sort it out, if after that he is gone then fair enough. No...NO...NO....Verbal assurances mean fuck all...in any job , in any circumstance. YOU'RE TALKING SHIT BOY. mumf Conversation in last week of season between TP and SN: SN....hear you may be leaving Boss? TP....... Possibly SN......what about the new contract you promised me Boss? TP......don't worry Steve the chairman knows all about it SN....... But can I have it in writing Boss just in case. TP(squaring up to SN)...... Look son my word is my bond so stop bitching SN .....what like you promised Michael PL football last season to sign him..... TP sticks te nut on SN who luckily avoids serious injury because he is wearing his mask which takes the impact of TPs seasoned forehead and splinters into pieces on to the ground.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 1, 2013 7:48:00 GMT
He is a tidy player - but with flaws as we've all seen this season. Seems to me he is well suited to a team like us; can't see any of the better Premier League teams bothering with him so if he is off anywhere it will be to a similar team to us. But these clubs will also be looking at his mardy attitude thinking what the fuck do we want with that.
Which makes me wonder where he would go?
A shit PL team with more money than sense. But with QPR gone who else is there? There is one though...
Put a fiver on him wearing the red of Caaaaardiffffff next season!
And when he comes here next season, let's give him a real hospitable reception.
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Post by sportsman on Jun 1, 2013 7:55:36 GMT
Wrong DNA. The big money comes into the prem this season and he and his agent want another big slice. I bet he will end up doing this for the next few years until he runs out of options and ends up in the championship
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