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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2013 23:27:47 GMT
I don't doubt that we would try and get him. I just highly doubt he would come. He could easily join a top European club. He may say he wants to stay in England. But if the only option is a stoke and you've got a psg knocking, there is no decision to be made really. Ordinarily you'd be mad to think he'd come to Stoke but to be fair it's Benitez himself who has fanned the flames. He has said it his PRIORITY (his word not mine) to stay in England because his family are settled on the Wirral, he's also said he doesn't expect to get an offer from a top six club but that he would consider a 'project' if it was the right one and it was in England - just what exactly is he alluding to here? Obviously if Real Madrid or PSG put an offer on the table then there's not a cat in hells chance he'll turn it down but what if it's Schalke or Malaga or Napoli, what then? Why has he gone out of his way to say that he would consider a smaller club in England when he knows only too well that he's going to be getting offers from Champions League clubs in Europe? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense and seems quite a pointless excerise if he doesn't mean it. I'm not suggesting that he would consider us but rather I can't simply right it off as easily, in light of what he's said.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on May 21, 2013 23:30:57 GMT
He's the number one choice, I hope him saying yes has triggered today's meeting being brought forward.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 23:31:47 GMT
I think we have more pull than some fans give us credit for.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 23:33:23 GMT
Did we ever get to the bottom of why he was at the club and training ground a few times, as reported on here?.
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Post by swampySCFC on May 21, 2013 23:33:25 GMT
Rafa is the man
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Post by bolders on May 21, 2013 23:37:19 GMT
Helping the team prepare for our European games
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 21, 2013 23:37:35 GMT
I don't doubt that we would try and get him. I just highly doubt he would come. He could easily join a top European club. He may say he wants to stay in England. But if the only option is a stoke and you've got a psg knocking, there is no decision to be made really. Ordinarily you'd be mad to think he'd come to Stoke but to be fair it's Benitez himself who has fanned the flames. He has said it his PRIORITY (his word not mine) to stay in England because his family are settled on the Wirral, he's also said he doesn't expect to get an offer from a top six club but that he would consider a 'project' if it was the right one and it was in England - just what exactly is he alluding to here? Obviously if Real Madrid or PSG put an offer on the table then there's not a cat in hells chance he'll turn it down but what if it's Schalke or Malaga or Napoli, what then? Why has he gone out of his way to say that he would consider a smaller club in England when he knows only too well that he's going to be getting offers from Champions League clubs in Europe? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense and seems quite a pointless excerise if he doesn't mean it. I'm not suggesting that he would consider us but rather I can't simply right it off as easily, in light of what he's said. I don't know Paul. But he's just been at Chelsea and won a European Cup. He's one of the most decorated managers in Europe and its not in my brain to comprehend him coming to Stoke. People say a lot of things but when the reality of the matter comes to a head their actions are different than their words. The last i saw the French media were running with PSG offering him a job there. I'm not really entertaining the idea of Rafa coming here because regardless of what he may have said, I don't see it happening. I see where you are coming from but I think we are been thrown a red herring. As well as saying he would consider a project he also said he would consider a top club with money to spend. Perhaps he was creating a fall back option in case no clubs came knocking. But after doing a good job at Chelsea, I think there is no danger of that happening.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2013 23:41:36 GMT
I don't doubt that we would try and get him. I just highly doubt he would come. He could easily join a top European club. He may say he wants to stay in England. But if the only option is a stoke and you've got a psg knocking, there is no decision to be made really. He's not going to have 'a PSG knocking'. But I know what you're saying. Why wouldn't he? He's been linked with them today and Ancelloti looks like he'll leave. He'd be ideal for a PSG wouldn't he? Certainly better than a Mancini.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2013 23:44:03 GMT
Ordinarily you'd be mad to think he'd come to Stoke but to be fair it's Benitez himself who has fanned the flames. He has said it his PRIORITY (his word not mine) to stay in England because his family are settled on the Wirral, he's also said he doesn't expect to get an offer from a top six club but that he would consider a 'project' if it was the right one and it was in England - just what exactly is he alluding to here? Obviously if Real Madrid or PSG put an offer on the table then there's not a cat in hells chance he'll turn it down but what if it's Schalke or Malaga or Napoli, what then? Why has he gone out of his way to say that he would consider a smaller club in England when he knows only too well that he's going to be getting offers from Champions League clubs in Europe? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense and seems quite a pointless excerise if he doesn't mean it. I'm not suggesting that he would consider us but rather I can't simply right it off as easily, in light of what he's said. I don't know Paul. But he's just been at Chelsea and won a European Cup. He's one of the most decorated managers in Europe and its not in my brain to comprehend him coming to Stoke. People say a lot of things but when the reality of the matter comes to a head their actions are different than their words. The last i saw the French media were running with PSG offering him a job there. I'm not really entertaining the idea of Rafa coming here because regardless of what he may have said, I don't see it happening. I see where you are coming from but I think we are been thrown a red herring. As well as saying he would consider a project he also said he would consider a top club with money to spend. Perhaps he was creating a fall back option in case no clubs came knocking. But after doing a good job at Chelsea, I think there is no danger of that happening. I don't see him coming here either mate. But I also don't think anybody would be seriously talking about him as a possible candidate at this stage unless HE had made the (very specific) comments that he has.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 21, 2013 23:49:58 GMT
I don't know Paul. But he's just been at Chelsea and won a European Cup. He's one of the most decorated managers in Europe and its not in my brain to comprehend him coming to Stoke. People say a lot of things but when the reality of the matter comes to a head their actions are different than their words. The last i saw the French media were running with PSG offering him a job there. I'm not really entertaining the idea of Rafa coming here because regardless of what he may have said, I don't see it happening. I see where you are coming from but I think we are been thrown a red herring. As well as saying he would consider a project he also said he would consider a top club with money to spend. Perhaps he was creating a fall back option in case no clubs came knocking. But after doing a good job at Chelsea, I think there is no danger of that happening. I don't see him coming here either mate. But I also don't think anybody would be seriously talking about him as a possible candidate at this stage unless HE had made the (very specific) comments that he has. Fair enough mate, we all interpret things differently. Rafa aside, who would be your number 1 choice out of interest?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 21, 2013 23:56:51 GMT
I don't see him coming here either mate. But I also don't think anybody would be seriously talking about him as a possible candidate at this stage unless HE had made the (very specific) comments that he has. Fair enough mate, we all interpret things differently. Rafa aside, who would be your number 1 choice out of interest? I'd be quite happy with any of the top runners, apart from Poyet who I think has acted terribly recently. Apart from at QPR, Hughes has got an excellent record. I'd be fine with RDM if Holland was his number two. Martinez scares me because I really don't think his record is anything to shout about but it would certainly be an exciting appointment. I'll be right behind whoever it is, even Poyet if I absolutely had to but I wouldn't like it.
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Post by mark71 on May 22, 2013 0:14:04 GMT
Rafa would be my and I think everyone else's first choice but we have got to stop thinking about him coming to Stoke. I really can't see it happening.
If people start building their hopes up on a dream they are going to be bitterly dissapointed and when the manager is appointed they will have a downer on him.
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Post by shinosbro on May 22, 2013 0:18:52 GMT
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Post by Pricey on May 22, 2013 0:34:08 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on May 22, 2013 3:29:15 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 22, 2013 4:41:33 GMT
Fair enough mate, we all interpret things differently. Rafa aside, who would be your number 1 choice out of interest? I'd be quite happy with any of the top runners, apart from Poyet who I think has acted terribly recently. Apart from at QPR, Hughes has got an excellent record. I'd be fine with RDM if Holland was his number two. Martinez scares me because I really don't think his record is anything to shout about but it would certainly be an exciting appointment. I'll be right behind whoever it is, even Poyet if I absolutely had to but I wouldn't like it. You'd really be happy with Martinez who's just taken a team down and who wouldn't have a clue what to do with half of our squad??
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Post by Binndy on May 22, 2013 7:04:08 GMT
Benitez 2 seasons ? at PSG or a longer career at stoke city.? I know which one i would choose.
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Post by Stoke70 on May 22, 2013 7:17:36 GMT
Rafa not friend with Leonardo, so PSG seems doubtful.
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Post by slother on May 22, 2013 8:10:38 GMT
James Whittaker northstokieThe Sun reporting that Rafa is being offered £3m/yr to take over which the club are hoping will tempt him over Napoli
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 22, 2013 8:14:16 GMT
Its Rafas job to turn down. Offer is on the table but the club is realistic in their chances of getting him.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 8:17:35 GMT
You would think we would know before we moved as it only works itv it's a material upgrade which he undoubtedly is
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Post by starkiller on May 22, 2013 8:21:10 GMT
Coates is the best chairman to work for. Highly regarded as such.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 8:26:06 GMT
I'd be amazed if we got Benitez in, he'll have offers now - but Napoli is a big upheaval for a man who didn't really enjoy his previous spell in Italy (if he thinks Chelsea fans were difficult, the Napoli fans are crazy). Paris might be a different kettle of fish though you feel. Has he reached a point of his career where he fancies another long spell at a club, like Liverpool. From 4 weeks ago... ‘The family is something you are always missing, but it has to be like this,’ says Benitez. ‘It is not easy for any manager to be with your family, in your house and working at your nearest club. So you have to travel. ‘Having the family around is always very important because they are supportive. If you have a good day you can enjoy it together. And if you have a bad day you always find something as a distraction with your children, because they are normally happy.’ However, if Ian Dennis was correct on Radio 5 then we should move on...
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Post by cartman123 on May 22, 2013 11:27:43 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on May 22, 2013 11:30:58 GMT
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Post by elsidibe on May 22, 2013 11:36:30 GMT
"You can't always get what you want." Mick Jagger, 1969
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Post by cartman123 on May 22, 2013 11:38:42 GMT
"You can't always get what you want." Mick Jagger, 1969 When the fuck have us Stoke fans ever got what we wanted? Remember being told we were having Burley, only to be told Pulis is our new manager.
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Post by elsidibe on May 22, 2013 14:13:33 GMT
OK then. "You always get what you don't want."
In my case, that means Kenny Dalglish or Steve Kean being unveiled just before 5:30pm on Friday.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on May 22, 2013 14:28:45 GMT
Someone just pointed out to me what Benitez is most likely to be doing next season. Which is; standing just behind Brendan Rodgers and shuffling about the place while giving loud sorrowful sighs and rolling his eyes a bit until the inevitable happens.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 14:37:01 GMT
Someone just pointed out to me what Benitez is most likely to be doing next season. Which is; standing just behind Brendan Rodgers and shuffling about the place while giving loud sorrowful sighs and rolling his eyes a bit until the inevitable happens. I've seen this a few times too, but surely Rodgers is fixed for at least another season now. Liverpool are progressing and his position seems to have solidified since being on the edge in Stoke on Boxing Day.
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