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Post by fca47 on May 1, 2013 9:59:23 GMT
Is there a time limit on your bet? there will be a new manager sometime, but it won't be next season. I wouldn't mind Davis, up and coming manager, not a failure like most mentioned, a risk admittedly. Spanish waiter for me, but that won't happen either.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 11:14:07 GMT
fca you can't really say "He's not a failure like most mentioned"..completely unfair given that "Most mentioned" have actually had more than one managers job at a professional team and have been doing the job a bit longer than 18 months!
on that logic there must be shitloads of managers we could look at in the lower leagues who've only just begun their first professional job and haven't had more than one club yet
staggering that even names like MON (who personally i wouldn't want anyway) are being discarded as potentially disastrous but naming someone who manages a league 1 side and has only been doing that for 2 seasons is seen as potentially better!!!
personally i'd like to think that that whoever the next manager is, it isn't someone who just happens to be the latest bandwagon name for everyone to jump on..or if it is then at least someone who's even been close to this kind of level before.
it seems the ONLY thing people are basing Davis on is the idea that Crewe have an academy....oooh, so do we therefore it's bound to work out
staggering, bizarre, ridiculous over reactions, 2+2=7....just mad IMO
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Post by Godo on May 1, 2013 11:59:06 GMT
I still think Pulis will smarm his way through it ( "The Coates family are brilliant" - it's makes me very queasy to hear the rimmed one doing his own rimming !!) But Di Matteo seems to be the clear favourite to take over if he doesn't. Think one or two people might actually be in the know, at least regarding a possible plan B. But if Wigan went down.......................?
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Post by snapper23 on May 1, 2013 12:11:28 GMT
I was amazed when di Mateo actually said in Sky that we would take the job if offered it. Three possibilities:
1. He is begging to be interviewed aka desperate. 2. He has been interviewed and has been told it's his if they have to dump TP 3. As per 2 but he doesn't know the outcome yet.
Can't imagine any other reason why he would say that unless of course he is just being a mouthy gob
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Post by cartman123 on May 1, 2013 12:15:19 GMT
I was amazed when di Mateo actually said in Sky that we would take the job if offered it. Three possibilities: 1. He is begging to be interviewed aka desperate. 2. He has been interviewed and has been told it's his if they have to dump TP 3. As per 2 but he doesn't know the outcome yet. Can't imagine any other reason why he would say that unless of course he is just being a mouthy gob Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Where and when did he say this?
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 1, 2013 12:24:14 GMT
I was amazed when di Mateo actually said in Sky that we would take the job if offered it. Three possibilities: 1. He is begging to be interviewed aka desperate. 2. He has been interviewed and has been told it's his if they have to dump TP 3. As per 2 but he doesn't know the outcome yet. Can't imagine any other reason why he would say that unless of course he is just being a mouthy gob Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Where and when did he say this? Beat me to it.
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Post by snapper23 on May 1, 2013 12:32:06 GMT
Sky Sports news. Can't remember whether it was Friday night or Sat morning I saw it
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Post by fca47 on May 1, 2013 12:48:52 GMT
Paul Lambert ,and many others weren't long out of lower divisions, as was TP so I don't see a problem with Steve Davis
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 1, 2013 12:52:22 GMT
If Carlo Ancelotti moves to Real Madrid to replace an apparent Chelsea bound Mourinho then the press are reporting that PSG will make a move for Rafa Benitez.
Hmm so the choice possibly for Benitez....Paris or Stoke?
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Post by snapper23 on May 1, 2013 12:57:19 GMT
Never understood why the fat Manuel was on such short odds.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:00:00 GMT
Paul Lambert ,and many others weren't long out of lower divisions, as was TP so I don't see a problem with Steve Davis apart from an extra 6 and a half years experience of management?
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Post by fca47 on May 1, 2013 14:44:37 GMT
You were objecting to where he came from, not the length of time he'd been a manager, there are lots of instances of managers getting success immediately Villas Boas being one.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 15:22:34 GMT
You were objecting to where he came from, not the length of time he'd been a manager, there are lots of instances of managers getting success immediately Villas Boas being one. fca you can't really say "He's not a failure like most mentioned"..completely unfair given that "Most mentioned" have actually had more than one managers job at a professional team and have been doing the job a bit longer than 18 months! Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/213429/who-flutter-next-permanent-manager?page=2#ixzz2S3RrnzQjmissed that bit then???? and Villas Boas isn't a manager with "Success immediately" He spent eight months as manager of Académica leading them to mid table obscurity, one year as manager of Porto, and nine months as manager of Chelsea which wasn't a massive success really.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 15:27:12 GMT
You were objecting to where he came from, not the length of time he'd been a manager, there are lots of instances of managers getting success immediately Villas Boas being one. fca you can't really say "He's not a failure like most mentioned"..completely unfair given that "Most mentioned" have actually had more than one managers job at a professional team and have been doing the job a bit longer than 18 months! Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/213429/who-flutter-next-permanent-manager?page=2#ixzz2S3RrnzQjmissed that bit then???? and Villas Boas isn't a manager with "Success immediately" He spent eight months as manager of Académica leading them to mid table obscurity, one year as manager of Porto, and nine months as manager of Chelsea which wasn't a massive success really. don't get me wrong fca, i appreciate it's your opinion and agree you're fully entitled to it and i know that any manager could turn out to be shit or a genius (i.e. it's a gamble whoever you choose for a new manager) but given that the club has said the squad will need restructuring in the summer, would you really want to entrust a sizable war chest to someone who only has a few months under his belt at being a professional manager and no experience whatsoever anywhere even close to this level????
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Post by shiftyfifty on May 1, 2013 23:02:38 GMT
Never understood why the fat Manuel was on such short odds. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Betting's equivalent of rope a dope.
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 1, 2013 23:11:26 GMT
fca you can't really say "He's not a failure like most mentioned"..completely unfair given that "Most mentioned" have actually had more than one managers job at a professional team and have been doing the job a bit longer than 18 months! Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/213429/who-flutter-next-permanent-manager?page=2#ixzz2S3RrnzQjmissed that bit then???? and Villas Boas isn't a manager with "Success immediately" He spent eight months as manager of Académica leading them to mid table obscurity, one year as manager of Porto, and nine months as manager of Chelsea which wasn't a massive success really. don't get me wrong fca, i appreciate it's your opinion and agree you're fully entitled to it and i know that any manager could turn out to be shit or a genius (i.e. it's a gamble whoever you choose for a new manager) but given that the club has said the squad will need restructuring in the summer, would you really want to entrust a sizable war chest to someone who only has a few months under his belt at being a professional manager and no experience whatsoever anywhere even close to this level???? I think it would be quite an achievement to mess up in the transfer window as much as TP this last couple of seasons, ut's hard to imagine anybody signing as many players that they will not play like TP has!
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Post by thevoid on May 2, 2013 0:04:14 GMT
There does seem to be a bit of momentum building re: Di Matteo. It won't quite go away will it?
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 2, 2013 7:21:55 GMT
There does seem to be a bit of momentum building re: Di Matteo. It won't quite go away will it? Maybe I have missed it but I havn't seen anything yet apart from on here about him, if it's any red label newspaper or Sentishite i'll take it for what it is myself
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 13:45:44 GMT
There does seem to be a bit of momentum building re: Di Matteo. It won't quite go away will it? Maybe I have missed it but I havn't seen anything yet apart from on here about him, if it's any red label newspaper or Sentishite i'll take it for what it is myself it's like bloody Davesviews all over again unfortunately.....a couple of people on here want him and have said it's everywhere (despite the only thing that comes up if you google "Di Matteo Stoke" being a thread on here)and suddenly everyone on here decides it's happening i expect in a few weeks Di Matteo will get another job and there'll be uproar on here and a "Coates out" thread for us not getting someone we probably never even asked in the first place
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Post by thevoid on May 2, 2013 14:46:34 GMT
My theory is that Uncle Peter's waiting to see what happens with Brighton with a view to going for Poyet if they blow promotion. RDM is a back up if we don't get Poyet.
I'm allowed to dream.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 2, 2013 15:11:35 GMT
If Mourinho was about 1000/1 I would have 50p on it,you just never know.
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Post by Meggsy on May 8, 2013 22:03:35 GMT
RDM with Steve Holland as assistant manager.
I'm not ITK but I trust my information enough to have a sizeable bet on it.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2013 22:15:02 GMT
RDM with Steve Holland as assistant manager. I'm not ITK but I trust my information enough to have a sizeable bet on it. It's not an obvious pick at all, so it's all rather odd that he sits there as 2/1 favourite. If there's anything in it, they've done very well to stop it getting any official airing, but he does keep getting a mention. 26/04/2013 GBP 100.00 Single: ROBERTO DI MATTEO @ 4/1 B Time: 18:09 Bet Type: Single Stake: £ 100.00 EVENT SELECTION PRICE E/W TERMS STATUS NEXT PERMANENT MANAGER STOKE CITY SPECIALS Outright - Specials Roberto Di Matteo 4/1 Win only Unsettled Just back after dinner with some old friends. One of their friends, whom seemed a steady chap, claimed he knew a member of the Coates clan (not the main three) and based on what he was told, he has stuck £1k on Di Matteo as the next Stoke manager. I have no idea if his 'inside' info is true, but my friends seem to think he was on the level. Either way, he showed the booking slip, which did indeed verify the bet Would not say - cept not one of the core three. My friends indicated he did roam in those circles and they are too old to bullshit. But all I saw was a receipt confirming the bet I may as well come clean and say that's what I've been told with ray Wilkins or steve holland as assistant. But hey ho he's not going anywhere is he ;-) [/quote] This source of mine doesn't do bullshit or false rumour-mongering. Apparently, RDM has already agreed to become Stoke gaffer in the Summer. I don't post rumours for the sake of it. The odds in some quarters have been slashed from 66/1 to 6/1 in some quarters on Di Matteo next Stoke boss.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 22:25:59 GMT
My source told me it was somebody who would definitely give youth a chance.
I've had a tenner on Ken Barlow with Kevin Webster the number two.
P.s. sorry chaps
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 9, 2013 8:38:15 GMT
sandbanks, i thought you'd been banging on for ever that Sven was the only man worthy of the job and it was a no brainer???? I would appoint Sven, but I don't pick do I?
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Post by thesandbankskid on May 9, 2013 8:47:12 GMT
If man utd can appoint moyes who has won zero with Everton then I'm not regretting my 33/1 on Davies from Crewe yet
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Post by stokie1130 on May 9, 2013 9:42:45 GMT
the fact is that any money been put on Pulis to be sacked or likewise is pointless because i can honislty say, bregrugingly that Coates aint going to sack him and TP isnt going to quit.
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