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Post by britbearpit on Mar 13, 2013 19:13:52 GMT
Re the thread on Fuller, I had the pleasure or not..of going to see Huddersfield v Charlton last week.
1/ Fuller was awful, it proved he'd reached as far as he could at the top level.
2/ The game was awful... I reminded me of the quality of football we had to put up with
in the old days!!
3/ I'm getting as fed up with Pulis as most of us, I was at Newcastle on Sunday
and it certainly wasn't the team that lost us 1 or 3 points but the manager for bottling it, as per usual.
4/ The big dilemma is do we want to stick with Pulis and plod on in the Prem or risk making a change and going back to the even poorer quality of what is in the lower leagues.
Having watched Huddersfield and Charlton at the weekend I think that many of us are looking at the Championship with rose tinted glasses,
Did we really play better football in those days as I seem to recall many games watching Stoke in the Championship and lower that was as bad I watched on Saturday at Huddersfield and what we see too often watching Stoke in the Prem!
In summary perhaps what we have isn't as bad as it seems.
Pulis does drive me mad though :-)
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Post by stokeramblers on Mar 13, 2013 19:16:36 GMT
1) He's 33 and his body is falling to pieces. Remember him for what he was not what he is now. All this Fuller hating today is really upsetting me  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 19:17:36 GMT
If the choice is the stuff we've seen this season forever or actually trying to score some goals and win some games and incorporate some invention once in a while, I'll take the second regardless of what division we're in.
I just want to enjoy watching my team again.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 13, 2013 19:19:03 GMT
1) He's 33 and his body is falling to pieces. Remember him for what he was not what he is now. All this Fuller hating today is really upsetting me Indeed! His little cameo before he came off against Bolton was still one of the highlights of the season as he skinned a couple and put a Bolton player on his arse. Come back Ric!!! (I know he can't before some grim pedant interjects). |
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Post by foster on Mar 13, 2013 19:44:10 GMT
I watched my 5 year old son play football last week for his team. It was shit.
Some people don't know how lucky they are.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 13, 2013 19:50:37 GMT
Moving Fuller on was a decision that the manager got right, some on here were desperate for another year of Ric that would have been a mistake. However he was scandalously under used before he left.
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 13, 2013 19:53:44 GMT
The manager shafted a legend of this club in the end. All that 'impact sub' bollocks was just that....spin from Tony to let him go gradually, knowing the presence he had within the club. His departure and the manner of it, is something else I'll never forgive Pulis for!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 13, 2013 19:55:42 GMT
Moving Fuller on was a decision that the manager got right, some on here were desperate for another year of Ric that would have been a mistake. However he was scandalously under used before he left. Definitely the right move, especially given all these pacy, exciting forwards we have at the club along with the arrival of Michael Owen.  |
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Post by beatlestokie on Mar 13, 2013 20:12:28 GMT
Re the thread on Fuller, I had the pleasure or not..of going to see Huddersfield v Charlton last week. 1/ Fuller was awful, it proved he'd reached as far as he could at the top level. 2/ The game was awful... I reminded me of the quality of football we had to put up with in the old days!! 3/ I'm getting as fed up with Pulis as most of us, I was at Newcastle on Sunday and it certainly wasn't the team that lost us 1 or 3 points but the manager for bottling it, as per usual. 4/ The big dilemma is do we want to stick with Pulis and plod on in the Prem or risk making a change and going back to the even poorer quality of what is in the lower leagues. Having watched Huddersfield and Charlton at the weekend I think that many of us are looking at the Championship with rose tinted glasses, Did we really play better football in those days as I seem to recall many games watching Stoke in the Championship and lower that was as bad I watched on Saturday at Huddersfield and what we see too often watching Stoke in the Prem! In summary perhaps what we have isn't as bad as it seems. Pulis does drive me mad though :-) At last thread with a bit of common sense!! It's not good at the moment but would we swap it for the old day's ? Absolutly no way. While I agree with the standard of play at the moment due to a loss of form we should get back to planet reality and get behind the team to kick start the season again. |
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Post by owdestokie on Mar 13, 2013 20:20:21 GMT
The manager shafted a legend of this club in the end. All that 'impact sub' bollocks was just that....spin from Tony to let him go gradually, knowing the presence he had within the club. His departure and the manner of it, is something else I'll never forgive Pulis for!
I wonder if Ric complained getting paid during this long drawn out saga, or was it TP showing gratitude for Rics service?
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Post by fortressbritannia on Mar 13, 2013 20:22:31 GMT
1) He's 33 and his body is falling to pieces. Remember him for what he was not what he is now. All this Fuller hating today is really upsetting me True he wouldn't be able to play 90 mins but he'd still be capable of turning matches from off the bench. |
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 13, 2013 20:28:31 GMT
Fuller's talent was behind the first really high quality Prem. goal we scored, as far as I am concerned. He was better than John Walters ( who plays absolutely every game without fail, as we all know ) by some considerable distance and had the ability to do something unexpected. A quality which we lack right now. He shouldn't have been played as a left winger/forward as he was on the few times he played in his last season for us............that was just a joke.
Also it would be good if we could actually be playing premiership standard football while we are here and not some sort of glorified Wimbledon style have a go type football.
All that said though I hope TP and the team turns our form around and we finish the season well, after which the board need to take stock of the situation and make some decisions.
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Post by Northy on Mar 13, 2013 20:28:52 GMT
4/ The big dilemma is do we want to stick with Pulis and plod on in the Prem or risk making a change and going back to the even poorer quality of what is in the lower leagues. or risk making a change and staying in the Prem with a bit better football? |
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Post by harrysburrow on Mar 13, 2013 20:39:06 GMT
There is an assumption being made that if we stick with TP we will plod on in the Prem.
We may well do, but we could also drop like a stone?
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Post by stantheman on Mar 13, 2013 23:08:27 GMT
Moving Fuller on was a decision that the manager got right, some on here were desperate for another year of Ric that would have been a mistake. However he was scandalously under used before he left. The reason he was moved on was because Puils had a hard on for Owen as soon as he heard that MUFC weren't offering him a deal. Then Ric had to go. The way RF 10 was treated was terrible |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 14, 2013 0:36:43 GMT
4/ The big dilemma is do we want to stick with Pulis and plod on in the Prem or risk making a change and going back to the even poorer quality of what is in the lower leagues. or risk making a change and staying in the Prem with a bit better football? All these moaning threads for "a bit better". |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 14, 2013 1:19:19 GMT
We basically swapped Fuller for Owen.
Who do you think would have been more valuable to the way Pulis plays ?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 14, 2013 3:09:14 GMT
We basically swapped Fuller for Owen. Who do you think would have been more valuable to the way Pulis plays ? Neither, Pulis hung Fuller out to dry on the left for what ever reason and Owen, well, anyone could see he wouldn't work. |
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Post by mark71 on Mar 14, 2013 7:42:47 GMT
The decision to let him go was the right one, BUT The way he was treated was a disgrace. also the fact we still havent got a replacement for him is another mark against the manager.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 14, 2013 7:44:07 GMT
Buying Fuller in my opinion is the best piece of transfer Pulis has done as a Stoke manager. Ric is a legend for me, but was sold at the right time as he clearly was on his way down. Why we replaced him with other old crocks is another question though (Owen)!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 8:39:05 GMT
or risk making a change and staying in the Prem with a bit better football? All these moaning threads for "a bit better". It really is though isn't it? We've regressed. Get back to the Liverpool-type performances more often - still direct, physical, plenty of long ball etc - and most people would be fine. It's not going to happen though, certainly not for any sustained length of time. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 14, 2013 8:42:49 GMT
I'm glad Ric left because had he stayed & put in poor performances (due to his failing body) then imho their would have been plenty in the crowd who would have given him the bird & that would have been awful.
Remember a bigger legend than Ric - Conroy- suffeered that exact fate.
TP,imho,is good at knowing when to take a previous mainstay out of the side & move them on.
players who have left Stoke (under TP) & gone onto have success?
small list isnt it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 8:47:44 GMT
I'm glad Ric left because had he stayed & put in poor performances (due to his failing body) then imho their would have been plenty in the crowd who would have given him the bird & that would have been awful. Remember a bigger legend than Ric - Conroy- suffeered that exact fate. TP,imho,is good at knowing when to take a previous mainstay out of the side & move them on. players who have left Stoke (under TP) & gone onto have success? small list isnt it. It's replacing them he struggles with. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 14, 2013 8:53:10 GMT
I'm glad Ric left because had he stayed & put in poor performances (due to his failing body) then imho their would have been plenty in the crowd who would have given him the bird & that would have been awful. Remember a bigger legend than Ric - Conroy- suffeered that exact fate. TP,imho,is good at knowing when to take a previous mainstay out of the side & move them on. players who have left Stoke (under TP) & gone onto have success? small list isnt it. It's replacing them he struggles with. certainly has yes. dioesnt mean Ric should still be here |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 8:55:08 GMT
It's replacing them he struggles with. certainly has yes. dioesnt mean Ric should still be here No I agree - especially if he was going to play him on the wing which was unfathomable. Still think Ric had more to contribute than Owen who even if fit was never going to fit into the system. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 14, 2013 8:57:12 GMT
Is that because that he buys older players who are too old to get better...and the young players he never plays therefore better teams never get the chance to see them which means they have to drop down the leagues.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 14, 2013 8:59:40 GMT
I am a great admirer of Ric but his time in 'The Prem' was up. One of the club's biggest problems is that we haven't even come close to replacing him. I agree with posters who believe Ric's departure should have been honoured more!
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Post by lordb on Mar 14, 2013 12:51:49 GMT
We (the supporters)need ,whoever the manager is, at least 1 player who gets you out of your seat.
Jeromes pace & directness can sometimes do that but otherwise there is no one currently.
If I ws TP/Coates I would priortise a right winger of real talent (& a left back,Alonso a free sounds fine) & that would do next summer
we dont need 7 or 8 players
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Post by mightymike on Mar 14, 2013 12:54:00 GMT
We (the supporters)need ,whoever the manager is, at least 1 player who gets you out of your seat. Jeromes pace & directness can sometimes do that but otherwise there is no one currently. If I ws TP/Coates I would priortise a right winger of real talent (& a left back,Alonso a free sounds fine) & that would do next summer we dont need 7 or 8 players TP wanted Thomas Ince who could be filled those requirements. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 12:57:31 GMT
I watched my 5 year old son play football last week for his team. It was shit. Some people don't know how lucky they are. can he play left back? |
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