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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 13:03:52 GMT
We (the supporters)need ,whoever the manager is, at least 1 player who gets you out of your seat. Jeromes pace & directness can sometimes do that but otherwise there is no one currently. If I ws TP/Coates I would priortise a right winger of real talent (& a left back,Alonso a free sounds fine) & that would do next summer we dont need 7 or 8 players TP wanted Thomas Ince who could be filled those requirements. Would he be allowed to fulfil those requirements under TP though?
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2013 13:09:30 GMT
I am a great admirer of Ric but his time in 'The Prem' was up. One of the club's biggest problems is that we haven't even come close to replacing him. I agree with posters who believe Ric's departure should have been honoured more! Spot on Nic, his time was up. If he still had the ability, pace etc, he would be doing it at Charlton and he isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 13:16:30 GMT
I am a great admirer of Ric but his time in 'The Prem' was up. One of the club's biggest problems is that we haven't even come close to replacing him. I agree with posters who believe Ric's departure should have been honoured more! Spot on Nic, his time was up. If he still had the ability, pace etc, he would be doing it at Charlton and he isn't. ??? but you think Pennant should be playing don't you? could use the same argument there too, not as if he was storming the Championship whilst at Wolves!
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Post by jstoke7 on Mar 14, 2013 13:19:21 GMT
Re the thread on Fuller, I had the pleasure or not..of going to see Huddersfield v Charlton last week. 1/ Fuller was awful, it proved he'd reached as far as he could at the top level. 2/ The game was awful... I reminded me of the quality of football we had to put up with in the old days!! 3/ I'm getting as fed up with Pulis as most of us, I was at Newcastle on Sunday and it certainly wasn't the team that lost us 1 or 3 points but the manager for bottling it, as per usual. 4/ The big dilemma is do we want to stick with Pulis and plod on in the Prem or risk making a change and going back to the even poorer quality of what is in the lower leagues. Having watched Huddersfield and Charlton at the weekend I think that many of us are looking at the Championship with rose tinted glasses, Did we really play better football in those days as I seem to recall many games watching Stoke in the Championship and lower that was as bad I watched on Saturday at Huddersfield and what we see too often watching Stoke in the Prem! In summary perhaps what we have isn't as bad as it seems. Pulis does drive me mad though :-) One game does not show a representation of Championship football. I've watched 5 or 6 Championship games this year and I can confidently say I saw more skill, ability, passing and entertainment than I do in 95% of Stoke matches this year. Once again I might have been lucky and seen 5-6 entertaining good games, but to base your argument on it is unfair IMO.
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2013 13:39:40 GMT
Spot on Nic, his time was up. If he still had the ability, pace etc, he would be doing it at Charlton and he isn't. ??? but you think Pennant should be playing don't you? could use the same argument there too, not as if he was storming the Championship whilst at Wolves! The Pennant issue is completely different. He still has the ability and on that alone he would be straight in my team. But, his attitude is all wrong and we know what TP does if that's the case! In fact, his attitude probably didn't help him at Wolves. He never wanted to go and would believe he is a Premiership player which he still is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 15:15:09 GMT
Is that because that he buys older players who are too old to get better...and the young players he never plays therefore better teams never get the chance to see them which means they have to drop down the leagues. ??? shawcross,begovic,wilson to name a few, name me a yonger player who has left who has gone on to better things? commons-scotish football nuff said marshall-leicester sub tp got dogs abuse for letting him go when it was marshall who wanted to go for first team football fuller-rare glimpses of his brilliance at charlton tuncay-been a massive success since he left
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Post by mightymike on Mar 14, 2013 15:16:43 GMT
??? shawcross,begovic,wilson to name a few, name me a yonger player who has left who has gone on to better things? commons-scotish football nuff said marshall-leicester sub tp got dogs abuse for letting him go when it was marshall who wanted to go for first team football fuller-rare glimpses of his brilliance at charlton tuncay-been a massive success since he left The only young player released by TP and gone on to play top flight football was Karl Henry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 15:17:18 GMT
??? but you think Pennant should be playing don't you? could use the same argument there too, not as if he was storming the Championship whilst at Wolves! The Pennant issue is completely different. He still has the ability and on that alone he would be straight in my team. But, his attitude is all wrong and we know what TP does if that's the case! In fact, his attitude probably didn't help him at Wolves. He never wanted to go and would believe he is a Premiership player which he still is. so you've decided that Ric not playing well is because he's past it but JP not playing well at Wolves and being called useless by most of the fans there MUST be because of something different? fair enough, didn't realise that it was down to you to set the rules over when we can say "Yeah,well...erm,well that's just different"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 15:23:38 GMT
I am a great admirer of Ric but his time in 'The Prem' was up. One of the club's biggest problems is that we haven't even come close to replacing him.! Fuller has been a big miss, especially as a Pulis team is basically 11 grafters on the field. You need at least one influential player in the side, whether it be a Fuller type or a playmaker pulling the strings in the midfield. Our current starting eleven has neither at the moment..
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2013 17:07:45 GMT
The Pennant issue is completely different. He still has the ability and on that alone he would be straight in my team. But, his attitude is all wrong and we know what TP does if that's the case! In fact, his attitude probably didn't help him at Wolves. He never wanted to go and would believe he is a Premiership player which he still is. Mick, why the attitude? No need for it. Fuller has always relied on pace and is older. Pennant hasn't, relied on pace, that's the difference. For all we know Pennant's ability may be on the way down, he hasn't played for us since last year! Surely you'd have Pennant over Kightly? so you've decided that Ric not playing well is because he's past it but JP not playing well at Wolves and being called useless by most of the fans there MUST be because of something different? fair enough, didn't realise that it was down to you to set the rules over when we can say "Yeah,well...erm,well that's just different"
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Post by benno on Mar 14, 2013 17:10:47 GMT
hes crap on fifa
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 17:16:10 GMT
I think that he's only ever been a 3 star player on PES, In saying that though raul meireles was a 5 star player in the 2012 version!!!
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 14, 2013 21:34:20 GMT
Is that because that he buys older players who are too old to get better...and the young players he never plays therefore better teams never get the chance to see them which means they have to drop down the leagues. ??? shawcross,begovic,wilson to name a few, name me a yonger player who has left who has gone on to better things? commons-scotish football nuff said marshall-leicester sub tp got dogs abuse for letting him go when it was marshall who wanted to go for first team football fuller-rare glimpses of his brilliance at charlton tuncay-been a massive success since he left You missed my point totally. ...and well done on naming 3 young players in 10 years of management
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 14, 2013 21:41:38 GMT
When Fuller played away at QPR last season, he won more set pieces in that one game than Crouch, Walters and Etherington had managed together in the previous ten. If we had given him a full pre season to get fit and match sharp, then he would have been in a position to feature reasonably regularly this season.
When we sold him he was the best striker on our books and we essentially swapped him for Michael Owen, a player who career was over half a decade ago.
It's probably the single worst piece of business TP has done, worse even than Kitson or Crouch.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 15, 2013 8:40:02 GMT
But wasnt he so very lazy and stuff?
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