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Post by greenhoff74 on Mar 10, 2013 10:39:08 GMT
The guys on there are all on TP's side, John Richardson who usually reports from Old Trafford says " it's ridiculous, I think Tony Pulis has done a fantastic job" , " look what's happened at Aston Villa when people started to get on Martin O'neils back", " but Peter Coates is a wise old bird and I don't think he'll be doing any Chopin and changing"
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Post by Panda on Mar 10, 2013 10:43:23 GMT
Chopin?
Wasn't he a composer? ;D
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 10, 2013 10:45:30 GMT
Easy for a bloke who watches Manchester United every week to say.......
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Mar 10, 2013 10:48:05 GMT
someone speaking sense
not allowed on here
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Post by apb1979 on Mar 10, 2013 10:51:28 GMT
What bullshit. Oneil treated Villa fans with contempt .
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Post by rambo61 on Mar 10, 2013 10:52:30 GMT
He HAS done a fantastic job. The question is....."is he still doing a fantastic job??" ???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 10:54:28 GMT
someone speaking sense not allowed on here 'Sense' from a bloke who doesn't know or care what the issues people have are and doesn't watch the team every week.
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Post by mightymike on Mar 10, 2013 10:55:17 GMT
Would he be allowed an opinion if he said Pulis was wank?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 10:56:45 GMT
Would he be allowed an opinion if he said Pulis was wank? Who's said he isn't an allowed an opinion? He has his opinion, it's just spectacularly ill-informed from the sounds.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 10, 2013 10:57:56 GMT
If we had made just a small incremental step forward over the past 18 months I'm sure you wouldn't have this mood among our supporters , we have taken a long lurch backwards and our football in its present form will take us down to th championship
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 10, 2013 10:58:10 GMT
It's the same old ignorant crap that outsiders come out with. "Look at what he has DONE" . What has what he last did for 2 months 2 years ago got to do with the here and now?
The only opinion that matters and should matter to the sensible Peter Coates is what his paying customers think. What people who only see us now and again on TV or base their opinion on the idea that we are lucky to be in the Premier League and who in any case have no emotional attachment think is utterly irrelevant!
We have to live with whatever decisions are made not them!
BM
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Post by mightymike on Mar 10, 2013 10:58:35 GMT
Maybe so, but if his opinion was Pulis should go would he be more informed? Despite watching Man United every week?
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Post by staffsvilla on Mar 10, 2013 10:59:23 GMT
What bullshit. Oneil treated Villa fans with contempt . spot on mate, it would be classic if sunderland nosedived into the bottom 3 on the last day of the season ;D
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Post by wuzza on Mar 10, 2013 11:01:21 GMT
Its mind boggling that someone expressing the perfectly reasoned view that things are not that bad that we should get rid of our most succesful manager in decades is classed as 'spectacularly ill informed'.
I think all the anti-Pulis stuff on here has caused some people to lose any sense of perspective they ever had.
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Post by MrMagic on Mar 10, 2013 11:07:23 GMT
Its mind boggling that someone expressing the perfectly reasoned view that things are not that bad that we should get rid of our most succesful manager in decades is classed as 'spectacularly ill informed'. I think all the anti-Pulis stuff on here has caused some people to lose any sense of perspective they ever had. You may well be right, but its interesting how we choose to listen to the media when they echo our own views, and dismiss them when they don't.
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Post by wuzza on Mar 10, 2013 11:09:50 GMT
I find it strange how desperate all the anti-Pulis people are to find someone in the media (local or national) to fight their corner. There doesnt seem to be any doubt in their minds that they are totally right so why the insecurity ?
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 10, 2013 11:14:23 GMT
Its mind boggling that someone expressing the perfectly reasoned view that things are not that bad that we should get rid of our most succesful manager in decades is classed as 'spectacularly ill informed'. I think all the anti-Pulis stuff on here has caused some people to lose any sense of perspective they ever had. How long do we have to live in the past for Wuzza? Have you seen the stats that show we are 92nd in the form table, or that when he had insisted on shoehorning his record signing in to the line up the points gained in the last 40 games would see us comfortably relegated? Shall we ignore all that because with the massive backing of the Coates family and after spending more over the last 5 years on player recruitment than all but two other clubs he managed to get us promoted and to a cup final in 2011? The experts are "spectacularly ill informed" and they don't care either! Any Stoke supporter that wants the CURRENT situation to continue is also potentially harming our club. BM
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Post by northantsash on Mar 10, 2013 11:14:57 GMT
a lot of the media see very little of stoke city and are missing the point of why so many supporters are frustrated. we are not talking about what a great job tony pulis did up to 2011, we are talking about 18 months of utter garbage football, during which in my view, we have become more predictable and less entertaining than when we first broke into the premiership. despite having better quality players, because they are restrained by the tactics.
i found it quite refreshing a few weeks ago when reading mark lawrenson's weekend prediction against west ham or fulham where he said words to the effect that stoke are heavily reliant on there home form, a run of 1 win in 21 away games shows where they have issues and until they approach away games more positively they will fail to push on in terms of league position. its an obvious observation to make, but a lot of media pundits seem to miss the fact that we approach every away game trying to destroy any creative opposition play and lumping the ball forward to an unsupported and immobile striker who currently could not score in a brothel.
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Post by generationex on Mar 10, 2013 11:18:05 GMT
The media (and other clubs) believe Stoke have no right to be in the top flight and so every season here is an over-achievement.
If you accept that premise then it must be bemusing to see the support complain.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 10, 2013 11:23:14 GMT
These journos cover a different game every week so dont get their enjoyment of football sucked out of them every week. They are looking to the past to support there views without sitting in the freezing atmosphere of the Brit every other week which seems to get colder once the game starts. Let them come to 30 plus games home and away and lets see them support the same view then. Pulis did the job he needed to do but the last 18 months have been unacceptable for many Stoke fans and some fucker who watches Man U every week can shove his"opinion".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 11:28:19 GMT
Maybe so, but if his opinion was Pulis should go would he be more informed? Despite watching Man United every week? Either way it'd depend on his argument and how much he knew about the situation wouldn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 11:29:40 GMT
Its mind boggling that someone expressing the perfectly reasoned view that things are not that bad that we should get rid of our most succesful manager in decades is classed as 'spectacularly ill informed'. I think all the anti-Pulis stuff on here has caused some people to lose any sense of perspective they ever had. Wasn't he suggesting the unrest was 'ridiculous' while not covering any of the reasons why people were unhappy? On what level is that 'informed'?
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Post by SCFC92 on Mar 10, 2013 11:32:22 GMT
It's like pulling teeth sometimes! So much so I cannot be arsed to reiterate our point!
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Post by wuzza on Mar 10, 2013 11:35:03 GMT
Perhaps their lack of regular attendance gives the media a better perspective than those of us up to our neck in it. Ok we havent played well for a while and things arent gelling on the pitch (as the management are well aware) but the sensible thing to do is bite the bullett for a while and give a proven successfull manager the chance to sort it out. Current form tables are exactly that - a snap shot. The media are taking that view from a far and whether its by luck or by judgement they are coming up with the right conclusion - it would be madness to lose TP now or in the near future.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 10, 2013 11:35:06 GMT
Rodney Marsh was treated like a visionary demigod when he recently said he 'hated Stoke' despite openly admitting he had only seen us play only once this season. A simple google search reveals that Richardson has seen us more than that and yet he is rounded on like rabid dog.
The Oatcake, treating people to hypocritical, fucked up, Pulis hating bollocks for over a decade.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 11:35:58 GMT
Marsh is a cock as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 11:40:39 GMT
It's all a bit rich for me. These arseholes are paid to be there and slate our football when it suits. Yet when the paying public do it it's 'ridiculous'?
It's time football stopped treating these twats like demigods and visionaries and started treating them with the contempt they are truly worthy of.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 10, 2013 11:43:54 GMT
I find it strange how desperate all the anti-Pulis people are to find someone in the media (local or national) to fight their corner. There doesnt seem to be any doubt in their minds that they are totally right so why the insecurity ? Can the people who don't think the sun shines out of the manager's arse be referred to as anti-mind numbing, not worthy of the admission fee, unacceptable dross for a club so well backed, football. Call them supporters of Stoke City if that is simpler. It is just so more accurate. I do find it hilarious that journalists who have spent years berating our lack of football value are now leaping to the defence of the very bloke who is singularly responsible for their previous angst.
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Post by RAF on Mar 10, 2013 11:47:09 GMT
Exactly and anyone with half a brain or more can see it's just another way of having a pop at the club. It's a shame some of the thick cunts on here can't see it. Well, don't want to see it anyway.
H
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 10, 2013 11:51:45 GMT
They're not mutually exclusive views though are they? You can say we are abysmal to watch, anti football, dirty, whatever and still overall consider that fans wanting to get rid of him is utterly idiotic can't you? We are now in a position on here where every anti Pulis article is feted, framed in roses and worshiped and any utterance suggesting that maybe wanting him out is not a good idea is rounded on as the musings of a pissed up know nothing hack. It's a bit boring and a bit wank.
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