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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 11, 2013 10:48:53 GMT
I was driving back home last night and listening to Talksport with Stan Collymore it quickly became apparent that we really aren't alone with some of our grumbles.
Norwich, West Ham and Sunderland fans were all grumbling about their teams lack of ambition away from home and how their teams seemingly just sat back and waited for the inevitable defeat in the hope that they might well nick something from the game.
Then, right out of the blue, Big Fat Sam said that West Ham were outstanding against Villa and that the only thing to complain about was the lack of points.
I watched the game and West Ham played for 10 minutes, after going 2-0 down. They were shite and my mind immediately drifted to countless TP post match interviews.
Seems that we aren't alone with our negativity of approach and not alone in wanting our teams to just "have a go" regardless of the opposition.
Very interesting it was and made my journey home go a bit quicker.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 11, 2013 10:50:47 GMT
They should remember where they have come from!  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 11, 2013 10:52:28 GMT
I think the biggest problem was that they "weren't 10th FFS".
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 11, 2013 10:57:37 GMT
They should remember what happaned to Charlton.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 11, 2013 10:58:49 GMT
It's surprising that the increasingly outstanding Swansea aside, how quickly the table has settled into a traditional top 7 or 8. A couple of the relegation teams aside, the rest of the league (particularly our middle third) has been in pretty abysmal form since the turn of the year. IF we can get our act together with a pretty benign run in, a top ten finish should really be in sight.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 11, 2013 11:01:01 GMT
The away form has to improve for that.
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Post by mcf on Feb 11, 2013 11:03:21 GMT
Stop the press!!! It's not just Stoke shocker!!!!! ;D I had a good study of the table over the weekend and I was surprised at how well we had done away from home. We have taken at least a point in more games than we have lost. Nice one.  I don't think the league is abysmal...that is a cop out. There is no need for it to be any better or worse than at any other time since the money has been ploughing in to it. I think it's a pretty damn hard one and that is why it can be so attritional at times....not just in our games. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 11, 2013 11:10:44 GMT
Considering we give most teams half a season head start, not to mention a 60 minute head start in every game, I have concluded that you, MCF, are right.
TP is a god and is doing a quite amazing job!
Pulis In!
We're 10th FFS!
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2013 11:37:24 GMT
On 606 last nigh there was a West Ham lad moning about their current fortunes. His main gripe was will Alladyce! Poor style of play, going away from home hoping to draw 0-0, no atmosphere at home, long therm fans staying away etc, etc. If you changed the name for 'Pulis' you could have copied and pasted the call, stuck it on Praise and Grumble, and no one would have known the difference! He's out of contract at the end of the season  |
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Post by mcf on Feb 11, 2013 11:53:43 GMT
pretty ungrateful cunts then aren't they
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 11, 2013 11:57:41 GMT
pretty ungrateful cunts then aren't they I admire your loyalty.. but our football is pretty shite at the minute, it is very hard to watch our midfield constantly pass back to Shawcross to hoof it up to Crouch. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 11, 2013 12:27:55 GMT
pretty ungrateful cunts then aren't they I admire your loyalty.. but our football is pretty shite at the minute, it is very hard to watch our midfield constantly pass back to Shawcross to hoof it up to Crouch. In fairness mate nobody forces you to go and watch it. If it made me as unhappy as it seems to make you I wouldn't bother. Not a dig by the way just how I see it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 12:53:45 GMT
Fulham haven't had a decent away record in recent times either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 12:56:38 GMT
Every team has its moaners
We dont need to moan, nowhere near as much as they do
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 11, 2013 12:59:28 GMT
I wonder if the fans of those clubs have sanctimonious pricks telling them to be grateful etc etc.
I'll say it again - the systematic lowering of fans expectations is the biggest con in football. It saddens me that football fans in general have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
For the money that is swilling around in football it's nothing short of a scandal.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Feb 11, 2013 12:59:38 GMT
Other fans in 'they moan like us' shocker!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 13:00:33 GMT
I admire your loyalty.. but our football is pretty shite at the minute, it is very hard to watch our midfield constantly pass back to Shawcross to hoof it up to Crouch. In fairness mate nobody forces you to go and watch it. If it made me as unhappy as it seems to make you I wouldn't bother. Not a dig by the way just how I see it. daft thing to say Staffs to be fair. the style of football is down to the manager and the same style we've had since he came along (although seemingly with less ambition nowadays) and the point he makes about passing to Shawcross and just hoofing it up is pretty damn accurate as well, you can't really argue against that however, as has been pointed out ad infinitum on this board, just because some don't support the manager or the style in which we play does in NO way, shape or form mean they no longer support Stoke City. deciding not to go simply because they don't like the current style and then returning (which you seem to be advocating) when it's good again is kind of the definition of glory hunting isn't it? |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 11, 2013 13:04:02 GMT
In fairness mate nobody forces you to go and watch it. If it made me as unhappy as it seems to make you I wouldn't bother. Not a dig by the way just how I see it. daft thing to say Staffs to be fair. the style of football is down to the manager and the same style we've had since he came along (although seemingly with less ambition nowadays) and the point he makes about passing to Shawcross and just hoofing it up is pretty damn accurate as well, you can't really argue against that however, as has been pointed out ad infinitum on this board, just because some don't support the manager or the style in which we play does in NO way, shape or form mean they no longer Stoke City. deciding not to go simply because they don't like the current style and then returning (which you seem to be advocating) is kind of the definition of glory hunting isn't it? Agreed mate. It is just that it seems to make some genuinely unhappy. If I felt that bad I don't think I would go. It wouldn't mean I didn't support Stoke anymore just that I didn't want to be unhappy going. |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 11, 2013 13:15:39 GMT
I'm a Stoke City fan and will go regardless and yes it is bordering on being a chore rather than a pleasure and at the minute the football is shite.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 11, 2013 13:18:51 GMT
Maybe the thing they/we have in common is the knowledge they/we are never going to win the league so why not have a bit of fun trying to finish between 10-15th.
This Premiership ain't what it was cracked up to be.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Feb 11, 2013 13:23:41 GMT
I've just tried the We are 10th FFS on the Sentinel web site. It came out We are 10th ***.
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Post by madelinesmithmmmh on Feb 11, 2013 13:27:49 GMT
If you want to be cheered up vist the QPR forum.
While I'm not sorry to see them flounder (actually woop woop!), their real fans do have a lot to moan about!
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2013 13:31:57 GMT
If you want to be cheered up vist the QPR forum. While I'm not sorry to see them flounder (actually woop woop!), their real fans do have a lot to moan about! And Villa, West Ham, Sunderland......... |
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Post by stantheman on Feb 11, 2013 13:34:45 GMT
If you want to be cheered up vist the QPR forum. While I'm not sorry to see them flounder (actually woop woop!), their real fans do have a lot to moan about! And Villa, West Ham, Sunderland......... |
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Post by Gods on Feb 11, 2013 13:38:33 GMT
It's surprising that the increasingly outstanding Swansea aside, how quickly the table has settled into a traditional top 7 or 8. A couple of the relegation teams aside, the rest of the league (particularly our middle third) has been in pretty abysmal form since the turn of the year. IF we can get our act together with a pretty benign run in, a top ten finish should really be in sight. And even the magnificent Swansea are only 4 points ahead of us. I fancy we will overtake them before this campaign is over. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 13:44:04 GMT
The Sunderland forum would be an entertaining read, especially when you look at the money they've spent over the last few years, they've managed to get through £172M since they came up with Keane |
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Post by landofhopeandglory on Feb 11, 2013 13:51:04 GMT
agree with stafford- stokie, you anti tone mob if he makes you so angry and unhappy stay away i would, or there is always the fail, there is plenty room up there
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Post by penkvillepotter on Feb 11, 2013 14:29:46 GMT
Fuck's sake landof... you make it sound so black and white. I don't like Pulis, wouldn't shed a tear if he left but would be happy if he adopted the style that most people I speak to would like to see.
Why should I go the Vale when Stoke is MY team and I'm guessing for longer than you. Some of us actually have lives outside of football but it is the occassion when we all get together so if it's all the same I'll keep to the routine that has served me well for over 40 years.
Why on earth would I go Arsenal last week when it was odds on we would shut up shop. Perhaps for the social, which by the way I would have gone on if we had been at Barnet if my good friends were going.
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Post by mcf on Feb 11, 2013 15:07:54 GMT
I personally think it would be suicide for a manager to go against his instincts and what he's proved to be good at.
Before he explored some kind of football utopia that he just wouldn't believe in then I'm quite sure it would be better for him to fuck off.
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 11, 2013 15:19:10 GMT
It's surprising that the increasingly outstanding Swansea aside, how quickly the table has settled into a traditional top 7 or 8. A couple of the relegation teams aside, the rest of the league (particularly our middle third) has been in pretty abysmal form since the turn of the year. IF we can get our act together with a pretty benign run in, a top ten finish should really be in sight. And even the magnificent Swansea are only 4 points ahead of us. I fancy we will overtake them before this campaign is over. That's not the point, they have got to 4 points ahead of us playing a much less turgid brand of football, it's not being asked that we play fancy tappy football, I don't want to see that myself, just a Stoke side who have a go and set up to win, not set up not to lose, passing back to our defenders to smash it up field to our tallest players. Go 1-0 up and not sit on it for the rest of the match at home but whilst they are more open due to the need to attack stick some more in the net, press them out of the game completely. |
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